Is It Fair?

[lional6]

The American Capitalist system is based on productivity gained by being at war. The American economy has cycles of confidence, disillusion, decline and regeneration. The boom and bust cycles of the American economics is relative to peace or war. Yes I admit I’ am a believer of the Socialist System, I have worked for some of the largest American and Japanese Corporations so I’ am not a tree hugging dirt eating hippy. The capitalist system is flawed; at least the Communist’s admitted their system could never succeed.

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... The capitalist system is flawed; at least the Communist’s admitted their system could never succeed.

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thanks for admiting!

well, perhaps no any system is totally perfect. but as I recall, so called Swedish model of Socialistic economy was (or still is?) a sort of model of success in Europe, I don't know if in the world.... you may correct me - since you are a specialist in this area.

capitalism might be better then comunism, but it would definetely would be even better still if it could admit its flaws and learn from it! here I agree with you.

[PeaceBlondie]

Fairness is the topic. Maybe fairness is like some high court once said about pornography: "I can't exactly define it, but I know it when I see it." But in fact, everybody's definitions vary and change. Likewise with fairness.

In my career at the Internal Revenue Service, we were often told, "That law - or your application of it - isn't fair." Westerners are infused with the notion that everything should be fair. I think the world should be fair, by my standards. But the Internal Revenue Code is one of the few laws in North America (I discussed this last night with a Canadian lawyer) that isn't fair, doesn't have to be, and the hands of the courts are tied.

Yes, we want fairness, and it's very strange to live without it. We should work to make the life more fair (whatever that means). And I'm glad I don't have to administer a patently unfair law any more.

Have a fair day.

[Jai Dee]

And I'm glad I don't have to administer a patently unfair law any more.

Are tax laws in any country fair?

[mbkudu]

And I'm glad I don't have to administer a patently unfair law any more.

Are tax laws in any country fair?

I most certainly think that having a retail sales tax and an income tax is not fair.

Is double taxation, no?, because you are being taxed when earning and spending.

Edited January 22, 2005 by mbkudu

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And I'm glad I don't have to administer a patently unfair law any more.

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Are tax laws in any country fair?

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I most certainly think that having a retail sales tax and an income tax is not fair.

Is double taxation, no?, because you are being taxed when earning and spending.

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I agree! and this is without even mentioning all other taxes....

I no a little - if not nithing - about tax laws, but can figure out that taxes are imposed by those who are "on the top" of social structure, and therfore makes all laws... obviously those laws are fair only for them... be it whatever social/ political/ economical system....

[kreon]

reading through all the responses, one things for sure, you're all out on your own, anyone who thinks that big brother is there to help you, must be living in brain-washed world

my father thought me, that freedom is only to be found in the open world, and that's living as a tax excile, we lived in various places in europe and my father never paid a cent of tax, but always enjoyed the hospitalities of the places we stayed at

as he said, i'm working my arse off and they want to take 80% of it, 15% flat tax is fair, he always believed in education and hard work, the same with his employees, and he did employ thousands

he never gave me a cent, but only his knowledge and wisdom, which took a while for me to see and experience, when he passed away he left me a note and a $1,000, all his fortune was put in a foundation he set-up for charity, that was his tax, he spent it the way he wanted it, a great man

moral of the story, we are what we are, educate your kids, be positive, teach them how to be independant, to run a business and to be self sufficient

it all works, believe me, all my brothers and sisters have their own businesses they started from scratch, my daughter in oz started hers with $2,500 of her own money last year at the tender age of 16, so as they say, just do it and don't blame the world, in fact the whole world is your oyster

Edited January 22, 2005 by kreon

[anna234cn]

Is it fair that

farmers(thai) work all day long under the sun just to get 1 or 2 thousand baht a month.

factory workers working 12 hours a day to get 5000 baht a month.

whilst me working 9 days only a month and receive more than HK$20000/thai baht 100,000,

whilst some govt. on the other side of the planet buy people beer and send them to watch football matches.

Not criticizing anything, but what is "fair"?

There are people from Vietnam smuggling themselves into HK, committing crimes for the purpose of getting caught so they would be allowed? to stay in the prison in HK where they could earn some money to go back.

For some unlucky people on this planet, your so-called prisons are heaven to them already!

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If it si fair, do you think you still can get such a sexy salary?

[meemiathai]

And I'm glad I don't have to administer a patently unfair law any more.

Are tax laws in any country fair?

I most certainly think that having a retail sales tax and an income tax is not fair.

Is double taxation, no?, because you are being taxed when earning and spending.

In my opinion, this has nothing to do with fairness. It is just a system decided by the majority of the people (ie a democratic one) or the people who have the power to of a country which they think best suits their country, in which case most likely the people who disagree with it are going to think it's unfair to them.

That's why I always stress that the concept of fairness or the concept of right or wrong in one particular country or race does not actually always apply to others.

And I've found by observation that a significant amount of westerners are very used to stubbornly applying their rules and values towards others' culture. I don't actually always disagree with them though. But it seems that they see only the bad side of what the way things are without understanding why and the good they also have.

There are of course logic like 'one is going to shit if he eats' which would be agreed by perhaps every human being on earth. But there are also logic like 'humans should be allowed to eat humans' which might differ depending on how you look at it.

[meemiathai]

Is it fair that

farmers(thai) work all day long under the sun just to get 1 or 2 thousand baht a month.

factory workers working 12 hours a day to get 5000 baht a month.

whilst me working 9 days only a month and receive more than HK$20000/thai baht 100,000,

whilst some govt. on the other side of the planet buy people beer and send them to watch football matches.

Not criticizing anything, but what is "fair"?

There are people from Vietnam smuggling themselves into HK, committing crimes for the purpose of getting caught so they would be allowed? to stay in the prison in HK where they could earn some money to go back.

For some unlucky people on this planet, your so-called prisons are heaven to them already!

If it si fair, do you think you still can get such a sexy salary?

Wasn't that what I was trying to say?