Woman Mauled To Death By 3 Pit Bull Terriers, 3 Wounded

[Interman]

Holy sh##t those pictures are unreal.

What would drive an animal to endure that much pain to attack a porcupine......

wow

This is one of the reasons why this breed is used in dog fighting, for their incredible high tolerance of pain. I know of one pittie that ran into tractor equipment full speed putting a metal spike 6 inches into its front chest, got itself free and kept after the rodent. Amazing.

[Freddie_fly]

So you googled pitbull and thats the best you could come up with........ My aunts had 4 pitbulls and has never had them turn on her.

You obviously know nothing about breeding and dog breeds. And, not only that but you have the gaul to call someone an idiot who believes otherwise.

So, your aunt has had 4 pitbulls that never attacked anyone... good for her. She's been lucky, but not smart. Her dogs not attacking anyone does NOT mean the breed is not dangerous. That is like saying a live cobra is not dangerous. Not all cobras bite humans... but some do.

Dogs have been bred for specific purposes for hundreds of years. You can't stop a hunting breed from hunting. It is in the nature for retrievers to swim and retrieve things. You can't keep a labrador out of the water. Pointers will point birds whether you like it or not. Terriers are scrappy little dogs that will kill rats and other rodents without being taught. It is in the nature of sheep dogs to herd animals. They will even herd a group of children if there is nothing else to herd. Cats do not have to be taught to kill birds and rodents. They just do it naturally. And, pitbulls naturally want to attack. Certainly there are many pitbulls that are docile, but as a breed they were taught to fight to the death and kill other animals. They can NEVER be trusted no matter how good the owner might be. As a guard dog they are a poor breed. There are far better breeds for that purpose. Guard dogs need to be smart. Pitbulls are dumb as a post and very dangerous.

There are many dog breeds that will bite someone... once, but very few will attack with the intention of killing whatever it is they attack. I've been bitten by many dogs, but it was only a pitbull that I had to strangle to death. It was attached to my leg and wouldn't let go. I still have the scars today. But, I'm still not afraid of dogs and I actually like most of them... just not pitbulls.

Finally someone with a bit of sense and knowledge.

My parents have bred dogs for 50 years, I was brought up in a household where 20 or more dogs was common.

Neither of my parents would even entertain the possibility of breeding Pitbulls, rottweillers or Dobermanns, they understood what a few here dont, that dogs have been bred for a purpose, and no matter how friendly or well trained they are, they will generally, at some point, revert to type. Pitbulls are NOT pets, They were never bred to be pets and they should not be bred at all anymore.

regards

Freddie

[Interman]

Methinks this is a pitbull. Is this mindless determination personified - or what?

Other dog breeds would have given up after the first several quills pierced their faces.

almost certainly this is an English Bull Terrier not a Pit Bull.

similar level of determination during combat but enjoys rather a good reputation as

a pet/family dog, i think.

The Dog Whisperer, Cesar Milan has a brilliant take on dog psychology. He leads and

seemingly effortlessly controls a pack of 40+ dogs, different breeds including many pit bulls

and other "red zone" breeds. He runs a dog psychology and rehabilitation facility, in LA i think.

Wonderful to watch and many uplifting stories of turning around problem dogs.

Virtually 100% down to lack of understanding by owners.

Milan talks about training owners and rehabilitating the animal.

These very powerful breeds need expert handling as their capacity to inflict damage is fearsome

if they are improperly trained and incorrectly socialised.

Never, ever should they be left unattended around children.

Calls for banning and euthanising all pit bulls are misguided IMO. In UK and Ireland organised gangs

engaged in dog fighting often try to circumvent the law governing dangerous breeds by claiming an

animal as some sort of mixed breed and therefore falls outside the provisions

of the Dangerous Dogs Act.

Condolences to the family of the dead woman RIP

Odysseus

Thank you

[Interman]

So you googled pitbull and thats the best you could come up with........ My aunts had 4 pitbulls and has never had them turn on her.

You obviously know nothing about breeding and dog breeds. And, not only that but you have the gaul to call someone an idiot who believes otherwise.

So, your aunt has had 4 pitbulls that never attacked anyone... good for her. She's been lucky, but not smart. Her dogs not attacking anyone does NOT mean the breed is not dangerous. That is like saying a live cobra is not dangerous. Not all cobras bite humans... but some do.

Dogs have been bred for specific purposes for hundreds of years. You can't stop a hunting breed from hunting. It is in the nature for retrievers to swim and retrieve things. You can't keep a labrador out of the water. Pointers will point birds whether you like it or not. Terriers are scrappy little dogs that will kill rats and other rodents without being taught. It is in the nature of sheep dogs to herd animals. They will even herd a group of children if there is nothing else to herd. Cats do not have to be taught to kill birds and rodents. They just do it naturally. And, pitbulls naturally want to attack. Certainly there are many pitbulls that are docile, but as a breed they were taught to fight to the death and kill other animals. They can NEVER be trusted no matter how good the owner might be. As a guard dog they are a poor breed. There are far better breeds for that purpose. Guard dogs need to be smart. Pitbulls are dumb as a post and very dangerous.

There are many dog breeds that will bite someone... once, but very few will attack with the intention of killing whatever it is they attack. I've been bitten by many dogs, but it was only a pitbull that I had to strangle to death. It was attached to my leg and wouldn't let go. I still have the scars today. But, I'm still not afraid of dogs and I actually like most of them... just not pitbulls.

Finally someone with a bit of sense and knowledge.

My parents have bred dogs for 50 years, I was brought up in a household where 20 or more dogs was common.

Neither of my parents would even entertain the possibility of breeding Pitbulls, rottweillers or Dobermanns, they understood what a few here dont, that dogs have been bred for a purpose, and no matter how friendly or well trained they are, they will generally, at some point, revert to type. Pitbulls are NOT pets, They were never bred to be pets and they should not be bred at all anymore.

regards

Freddie

Careful Freddie,, This is the same guy who claims he strangled a pitbull with his bare hands..... laughable realy.

[Interman]

This is one of the dogs the bangkokpost claims killed the person.

This is NOT a pitbull of pure breed....... Bad breeding and ugly. Bad breeding can create bad dogs.

[MsFigure]

Methinks this is a pitbull. Is this mindless determination personified - or what?

Other dog breeds would have given up after the first several quills pierced their faces.

actually that dog in question is a BULL TERRIER.

[Freddie_fly]

Methinks this is a pitbull. Is this mindless determination personified - or what?

Other dog breeds would have given up after the first several quills pierced their faces.

actually that dog in question is a BULL TERRIER.

Yes MsFigure is right its a Bull terrier, also commonly called an English Bull Terrier

regards

Freddie

edited for atrocious grammer gaffe

Edited April 5, 2009 by Freddie_fly

[Interman]

Methinks this is a pitbull. Is this mindless determination personified - or what?

Other dog breeds would have given up after the first several quills pierced their faces.

actually that dog in question is a BULL TERRIER.

Yes MsFigure is right its a Bull terrier, also commonly called an English Bull Terrier

regards

Freddie

edited for atrocious grammer gaffe

So the dog in question is NOT an American pitbull, or AM Staff.

People with ACTUAL experience with these dogs confirms it. -----Sorry Pit bashers.

[Freddie_fly]

Methinks this is a pitbull. Is this mindless determination personified - or what?

Other dog breeds would have given up after the first several quills pierced their faces.

actually that dog in question is a BULL TERRIER.

Yes MsFigure is right its a Bull terrier, also commonly called an English Bull Terrier

regards

Freddie

edited for atrocious grammer gaffe

So the dog in question is NOT an American pitbull, or AM Staff.

People with ACTUAL experience with these dogs confirms it. -----Sorry Pit bashers.

The dog pictured with the porcupine quills is an English Bull terrier. I still havnt seen any pics posted of the dogs in the attack here. However, I do know that the UK kennel club regards the Staffie as a highly intelligent dog that is generally very good with children. Unfortunately since the banning of pitbulls in the UK, the local wide-boys have taken to the staffie and they dont really know how to look after that breed.

regards

Freddie

oh and sorry interman but I am a confirmed pit bull basher, I firmly belive that they should all be quietly put down

[MsFigure]

If you are an owner of a dog that belongs to a 'dangerous breed' category and you also have a small child please take this as a warning.

Don't leave your dog with the child unattended under any circumstances.

Only a little moment was enough for the following to happen.

See the photo attached ....

PS. THIS IS AN ENGLISH BULL TERRIER AND NOT A PITBULL for those that can't tell the difference !

[Interman]

So the dog in question is NOT an American pitbull, or AM Staff.

People with ACTUAL experience with these dogs confirms it. -----Sorry Pit bashers.

The dog pictured with the porcupine quills is an English Bull terrier. I still havnt seen any pics posted of the dogs in the attack here. However, I do know that the UK kennel club regards the Staffie as a highly intelligent dog that is generally very good with children. Unfortunately since the banning of pitbulls in the UK, the local wide-boys have taken to the staffie and they dont really know how to look after that breed.

regards

Freddie

oh and sorry interman but I am a confirmed pit bull basher, I firmly belive that they should all be quietly put down

Thats a shame. I forgive you.

[keemapoot]

Certainly, in Thailand they should be exterminated but in truth I would also like to see a national campaign leading to the slaughter of all strays.

Of course you are right, but these topics never go anywhere. On tv it always becomes the dog lovers defending dogs at all or most costs; and in Thai society in general, culling, or killing any of these animals is just not acceptable for all the Buddhist reasons we know. But, particularly here in Thailand, where you have these blurry lines between what is an owned dog or not, it seems impossible. For example, I know of neighborhoods in outlying parts of Bangkok where literally packs and packs of dogs roam free at all hours, but especially at night. The resident Thais seems to be able to ignore them completely and walk past them at all hours without incident.

However, I've seen these packs threaten to attack people they do not know, and it is very dangerous. Yet, at the same time, these pack dogs will retreat to their "homes" which consist of some family who puts out a bowl of water and food on the street, or some street vendor who feeds them every day from scraps. So, in essence, there are no proper "owners" for many, if not most of the huge numbers of stray dogs in Thailand. Yet, there are those who sort of feed them...kind of.

I know where I live, there is a particularly troublesome alpha male dog who barks or chases every time I go by on motorbike or car. He "lives" outside a house, and from the feeding bowls on the street, obviously somebody at that home is keeping him. One day, I simply drove up to him and pepper sprayed him. It hit him on his nose, he didn't cry out, just put his head down, and he never barked at me again. Problem solved.

But what about the daily endless roaming packs of strays that are out of control throughout Thailand? I pray pit bulls don't make it into these ranks...

BTW, I'm a dog lover and dog owner.

[peecee]

SORRY, BUT THAT BEHAVIOR IS NOT STEREOTYPICAL OF ANY BREED. THE OWNERS AND WHOEVER TRAINED THESE DOGS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE. PERIOD!

So why do many countries ban this type of dog? Because they are breed to fight & are unpredictable, even in the hands of experienced owners.

[Freddie_fly]

Thats a shame. I forgive you.

Thank you, thank you, thank you...I can sleep tonight

But seriously, its a problem and its not going away, I remember a british policeman interviewed on Wogan, seriously disfigured, he and a collegue attempted to stop two Pit bulls killing a guy, both Policemen were retired due to their injuries, the owner was quoted as saying they were family pets and very loveable, try telling that to the man they attackd who had most of his face ripped off. His crime??, walking down the street where he lived.

Freddie

[piewarmer]

home is Aus we very rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks.

Anyhow its horrible what happened to the poor lady.

Thank you... Someone who knows what they are talking about.

What a load of codswallop. This breed has mauled hundreds of children in Australia. Ask any hospital worker...many are the owners themselves who say the dog has never been aggressive. Pit bulls are just complete insanity. som nom na.

There is very few dogs, no matter what the breed that don't get aggressive now and then... a good kick dispatches most ..thank god.

rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks. take your hands off your ears.

Edited April 5, 2009 by piewarmer

[smilingbumpy]

That is shocking news. RIP to the poor woman

Stereotypical for the breed.

pittbulls are naturally not agressive, they are made that way by the owner. They will tipically need more provocation to bite than many other breeds of dogs, That said it is a fact that dogs of the terrier breed are very very strong and will if they bite do alot more damage than an average dog. I think alot of thai people are not aware of the damage a dog like that can do, and have to be educated how to treat a dog like this! I don't own one but i am very fond of these dogs as their personality and character is superb over any other dog i ever owned. I did once have an English staffordshire bullterrier wich is about the same type of dog but smaller. The dogs in question seemed to be watchdogs wich is exactly what they did. Terrible tho for the family of the lady and the people who were attacked R.I.P. and my condolances to their family and loved ones!

[Electra]

pittbulls are naturally not agressive, they are made that way by the owner.

Ah, so they are really Labradors or Golden Retrievers, or French poodles, or Irish Wolfhounds, or Beagles etc etc.?

Clearly, you are an idiot but congenital or otherwise remains to be seen.

[desertrat]

"So you googled pitbull and thats the best you could come up with........ My aunts had 4 pitbulls and has never had them turn on her. "

Your aunt is a sample of ONE, Google has EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND HITS for

"PITBULLS KILL"

ONE Aunt..is that the best you can come up with ? Perhaps you have a few more aunts to balance these stats?

Edited April 5, 2009 by desertrat

[neverdie]

Edited April 5, 2009 by neverdie

[desertrat]

"umbrellas, wooden sticks, wooden beams, pepper spray, police stun guns ALL did NOT stop pit bulls in rage!!"

I am indebted for this info, as there is a pit bull near where I cycle, I will let him/her have my arm while I disembowel it with my Buck, a la Rambo in "First Blood", which will now always be at hand, but invisible.Would that stop it ?

What about crushing the goolies if it's a male, (my work, not MA, has given me powerful hands)..would that work, or giving it a J.Arthur perhaps ?

Edited April 5, 2009 by desertrat

[neverdie]

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers

Pit Bull Terrier. -- Stock photo

NAKHON SAWAN: -- A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05

Pitbulls were never bred to attack humans the were bred for dog fights and are one of the most loving breeds towards humans. You get far more attacks by golden retrievers, german shepards and rottweilers.

Besides beeing locked up in cages, starving from malnutrition and lack of socializing them, the owners are soley to blame. Thais are famous for abusing their pets...

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Hey look everyone Zorro posted some pics of a pitbull guarding its next meal!

Edited April 5, 2009 by neverdie

[neverdie]

SORRY, BUT THAT BEHAVIOR IS NOT STEREOTYPICAL OF ANY BREED. THE OWNERS AND WHOEVER TRAINED THESE DOGS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE. PERIOD!

Spot on with this comment.

Correct.....dogs are like children..if they are raised correctly they are not a problem. Left undisciplined, behaviour uncorrected, dogs attain the role of an alpha and behave accordingly.

If you are afraid of dogs, any dog, it's best to remember that instead of pulling your hand from a dog's mouth when it bites, the best solution is to force your fist down it's throat and choke it.

Yes well thats fine if the dog is loosely biting or taking numerous chomps at your arm & you actually have your hand in its mouth BUT as with this breed it is common for them to lock onto their bite & shake their heads.......so at what point do you plan to make your hand go down their throat Perhaps when it dislodges from the rest of your arm? You have some remote controlled device for your severed arm?

[neverdie]

After having owned a fair few breeds of dogs over the years (back home in Oz) I bought a Pit Bull, as after the bad publicity that surround the dog I was interested to try one for myself. The dog was kept on my farm with a number of other breeds & treated well, exactly the same as the others. I have never had a problem with a dog killing livestock or anything before.

Approximately the 18 month period after having no problems with the dog whatsoever it went on a killing spree one morning & killed 2 other dogs, a goat, a sheep & some chickens, all in a matter of minutes. As I approached the dog, calling it in it charged me, at which time I got into my cruiser & sat there as the dog went wild at the side of the vehicle. I ended its day with a 243 round to the head.

I never was there for the start of that killing spree, I have absolutely no idea what set the dog off & I nearly quite possible became one of its victims at the end. I don't need a dog like that, I can't see that anyone does, yes the breed has a bad reputation, a very bad reputation & its not hard to see why. The only good Pit Bull is a dead Pit Bull.

So you got the dog for the wrong reason knew nothing about it and Voila you should never of got the dog just cause you wanted to try it out do you realize how stupid that sounds

It might seem stupid to you but having grown up on farms it is quite common place for people to want to try out different types of dogs & a farm is a great environment for most breeds, especially with a group of people that have time for the animal & provide it with a healthy environment to live in, personally Ive had everything from Golden Retrievers to Rottweilers, Shepards etc. Theres nothing stupid about that in my opinion.....are you suggesting I stick with one breed after nothing but success with the exception of this one VERY VERY dangerous breed of dog?

Now your telling me you need a special licence & intensive training to deal with this very dangerous dog breed are you? Perhaps they should stop selling those things to the general public.

Wake up to yourself monkeyboy!

[brahmburgers]

last time I went to the UK this breed was banned, I think you will also find that anyone who loses control of a dangerous dog that then subsequently injures someone would be 100 % liable for prosecution

100% liable for injuries caused by their dog? - would never be enforced in Thailand.

Indeed, allowing pitbulls and untold numbers of their mixed-breed offspring to diffuse throughout Thailand, is yet another way to cull the population of people. Let's allow people to also raise venomous snakes and scorpions and unleash them on the all-too-appeasing public - that too will put a dent in human overpopulation, and provide added business for hospitals and dems dat make bandages, hypodermic needles, rabies shot solution, and anti-bacterial ointments.

Even if there were no pitbulls or rottweilers being introduced to Thailand, the existing plethora of nasty dogs would ensure endless days and nights of barking and vicious attacks throughout the country. Most Thais don't now, and will never fathom how to take responsibility for their dogs. Most figure; "it's a dog's nature to bark, bite and attack, so who are we to try to make a dog change its natural habit? Plus, I'm such an advanced meditator, I can tune out the barking. You can't psychologically block out the noise? Oh, then you must not be as advanced as me."

[xerostar]

I have these breeds of dogs along with english bull terriers they are great family dogs we have a couple here in phuket and I have had many back home in Australia, which brings me to another questions why does every other country in the world have big problems with these breeds and home is Aus we very rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks.

Apparently this poster does not read the daily newspapers in Australia!

Weekly, we hear of horrendous attacks on people by dogs.

Small children with horrible disfiguring injuries. Scarred for life!

Not specifically BT's but often BT's or crossbreeds of that type are involved.

Most Australian local councils have banned or plan to ban the breed altogether and are

introducing legislation with heavy penalties for the owners of dogs involved in such attacks.

I agree that good training can result in apparently placid dogs but they have the

potential to suddenly change and turn on people or children.

Worse still are those animals that are mistreated (i.e. most dogs in Thailand).

In Western countries many owners of these breeds seem to own them as some sort of menacing badge .. "Don't <deleted> with me - I'm a PB owner!"

Brave enough to own one perhaps ?

[neverdie]

So, in summary, the best pitbull is a dead pitbull.

[SebD]

So, in summary, the best pitbull is a dead pitbull.

Rather "The best wannabee PitBull owner is a dead wannabee Pitbull owner".

There should be an application form.

Only needs to have ONE question:

Q: "Would you like to own a PitBull?"

A: "Yes"

Conclusion: "Well........You're obviously not to be trusted as a potential owner of one, are you, then?".

[tartempion]

OK, In response to peoples reactions at my harsh criticism I would like to add fule to the fire.

1) Pitties are dangerous IF not trained well

2) Pitties will defend your property with lethal force

3)Pitties must be supervised if in groups

Keep these things in mind and nobody will die.... remember number 1 is crucial !

Add to this "Your house won't explode if you close the gas tap" Keep this in mind and nobody will die.

Thus this very morning I baked a baguette in my gas oven and had an excellent breakfast.

For some mysterious reason I forgot to close the main tap AND an other gas button was diffusing gas in the kitchen, no idea why/how that button was turned open. When my wife hit the kitchen later on I was scolded at, lucky they add rotten smell to the gas

So as far as "dangerous" dogs goes, DON'T KEEP ANY.

I read with horror how a few board members think it's good to have some of these on their premises. IT IS NOT!

Get rid of them.

[imaneggspurt]

There was a 6 year old girl killed last August just a few miles from our home in Alaska. The dog was her family's pet Pit-Bull.

To me these dogs should not be kept as pets with children around - Period. A gun is better personal protection it can be locked and unloaded and is under control of the user. Who knows what could set an animal off that has generations of attack instinct bred into it. It only takes one time and can happen in split second.

Any dog can be dangerous, but Rottweilers and Pit-Bulls have developed a record, and should be treated by there owners as weapons.

This sums up EXACTLY why people have them, they certainly ARE NOT a pet,."Any dog can be dangerous, but Rottweilers and Pit-Bulls have developed a record, and should be treated by there owners as weapons."

[imaneggspurt]

Some one likened it it to bringing up kids ,with proper training all will be ok, well i dont think so, some very respectable people have gone on to be killers, and their mothers have stood in the court saying " hes not really a bad boy " ..misguided loyalty ,and the same for these dog defenders,i have told this story before, my friend had a very docile rotweiler,at 8 years old it ripped the face offf his daughter,totally out of character ?. im not so sure,.