Actor David Carradine Dead in Bangkok

[sabaijai]

I am a fan, but when you die like that, you are going to be an object of humor for all eternity - whether anyone likes it, or not.

I have a feeling that David would have been OK with that.

Ok i found it somewhat funny. May be david would have as well but what about his family who may or may not be reading all this?

Also it was his business and his alone to engage in something like that, What gives us the right to ridicule him? There is may be many on here who engage in something out of the ordinary. To coin a phrase let him without sin cast the first stone.

The article didn't ridicule Carradine. It lampooned the absurd conspiracy theories being put forth.

[AbelMagwitch]

I am curious why the out pouring of grief. Do the same people typing RIP also go to graves of total strangers and lay flowers? Just because someone makes good entertainment, it does not stop them from being nuts. Gary Glitter etc.

I heard about it and cracked the usual jokes and later sought out the photos.

I just can't wait for Nick Cage to found in an even stranger way!

[cyborg22]

I am curious why the out pouring of grief. Do the same people typing RIP also go to graves of total strangers and lay flowers? Just because someone makes good entertainment, it does not stop them from being nuts. Gary Glitter etc.

I heard about it and cracked the usual jokes and later sought out the photos.

I just can't wait for Nick Cage to found in an even stranger way!

It is the sad loss of a good actor and much loved man that we show grief for, And to show our respect we ask for him to rest in peace.

As for Gary Glitter he was not nuts only a pervert of the highest order, I suspect when he dies many people will visit his grave. (To dance on it) One less pervert in this world.

[Journalist]

I am curious why the out pouring of grief. Do the same people typing RIP also go to graves of total strangers and lay flowers?

They are trying to feel engaged in an alienated world.

Making connections via computer is one way, albeit flawed and ersatz, of doing that and trying to recapture that humanity.

Edited June 18, 2009 by Journalist

[chen168]

Transsexual Hookers May Be Responsible for David Carradine's Death

17 June 2009 9:48 PM, PDT | From Celebrity Mania | See recent Celebrity Mania news

© Juan Rico/Fame Pictures

Another shocking theory on David Carradine's death has been released by his friend, David Winters. He thinks the actor might be killed by Bangkok's transsexual hookers called Lady Boys and local police are trying to cover up the truth. "David Carradine was murdered... I strongly believe Lady Boys are responsible. Lady Boys operate in pairs. David would not have stood a chance. They can be very brutal," he told Globe magazine. The producer, who had worked with the "Kill Bill" star in three martial arts movies, demands Bangkok police to release hotel surveillance video which may reveal people with whom Carradine spent his final hours. "I want to see those tapes. My suspicion is they've already been doctored," Winters stated.

Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent who has been hired by Globe to investigate Carradine's case, agrees to Winters' opinion, saying "I believe he met two Lady Boys in the hotel bar." He then claimed, "They are flirtatious, desperate for money and would have zeroed in on a celebrity like Carradine."

Gunderson assumes the hookers drugged Carradine, hung him and arranged it to look like a suicide. "One of the Lady Boys may have stepped behind him, looped a length of rope around Carradine's neck and strangled him," he said. The detective strongly believes a mysterious footprint reportedly found on the martial arts practitioner's bed is the biggest clue in the case.

Edited June 18, 2009 by chen168

[wintermute]

It's easier to concoct outrageous stories of ninja kung <deleted> cults lurking behind every corner than to settle with the hero myth destroying reality that Carradine died while stroking his willy in a posh hotel room in Bangkok.

[chen168]

Bangkok - US actor David Carradine was alone the night he died, Thai police said Saturday, seeking to lay to rest rumors about possible foul play in his death.

The Kill Bill star, 72, was found dead in the closet of his Bangkok hotel suite in early June and initial reports indicated that he may have died as the result of a sexual practice known as autoerotic asphyxiation.

Rumors had also been rampant that someone was in the room with him, but Thai Police Col Kachornsak Parnsakorn tried to put those rumors to rest late Saturday.

The deputy commander of metropolitan police division 5 told the Bangkok Post newspaper that all evidence, including witness accounts and a close circuit camera in front of Carradine's room, showed that he went into his room alone.

At first Thai police said he had committed suicide, but after an autopsy by forensic experts at Chulalongkorn Hospital concluded Carradine had died of suffocation.

Well-known Thai forensics expert Porntip Rojanasunan said the actor might have died from 'autoerotic asphyxiation.' Police said the actor was found hanging in a closet with a rope around his neck and genitals and his hands bound.

Several days after his death, Carradine's body was flown to the US where an autopsy conducted by forensic pathologist Dr Michael Biden determined that Carradine did not commit suicide.

But in a brief statement at the time, he said that more information was needed from Thai authorities before reaching a final determination of how Carradine died.

Carradine recently starred in Quentin Tarantino's two-part movie Kill Bill. His first major role was as the fugitive half-Chinese Shaolin monk Kwai Chang Caine in the TV drama series Kung <deleted>.

He was in Bangkok shooting a film called Stretch.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asi...0J4mukYMM&D

[MJP]

Family members say invitation needed for FBI to go to Thailand , not forthcoming...

Bangkok Post says:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/14...carradine-probe

>>>>>>>>

FBI not needed in Carradine probe

By: AFPPublished: 7/06/2009 at 01:57 PM Thai police have defended their handling of the investigation into the death of David Carradine, after the US actor's family urged the FBI to step in and assist the probe.

Police say they suspect the star of the 1970s television series "Kung <deleted>" died in a sex act that went wrong after his naked body was found Thursday in his Bangkok hotel room with rope tied around his neck and genitals.

A lawyer for the brother of the 72-year-old actor said at the weekend that the actor's family had met US Federal Bureau of Investigation officials to ask for help to discover exactly how Carradine died.

"I am confident we are working on the right track. US embassy representatives saw every step of the investigation process in the hotel room," Police Colonel Somprasong Yenthaum, who is leading the probe, told AFP.

He said Carradine's relatives had the right to seek help from the FBI, but added that the bureau would have to contact Thailand's attorney general who would then decide whether to forward the request to the police.

"We can work with FBI if they request and their request is passed. But if they don't come, we can do our jobs," he added.

Police are still awaiting the results of laboratory tests which will take between three and four weeks to come through before they can make an official conclusion about the cause of death.

Carradine was in the Thai capital to shoot a film called "Stretch" when he was found dead in the wardrobe of his luxury hotel room last week. His body was repatriated on a United Airlines flight early Saturday.

An initial autopsy report revealed that the actor died from a sudden lack of oxygen and his body showed no signs of struggle.

Mark Geragos, a lawyer for Carradine's brother, Keith, told a CNN talkshow on Friday that the actor's family rejected early reports that the actor had committed suicide and had met with FBI officials.

"They're looking into it through the FBI and trying to get to the bottom of this," Geragos said. "The family and Keith specifically doesn't for a minute think he was suicidal."

The actor was best known for his role as the fugitive half-Chinese Shaolin monk Kwai Chang Caine in the 1970s TV drama "Kung <deleted>" and for playing the title character in Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill" movies.

The roles earned Carradine a fourth Golden Globe "Best Actor" nomination.

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The Nation says:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/topstory/3...p-in-Carradine-

Police welcome proposal for FBI help in Carradine probe

By The Nation

Published on June 7, 2009

Police will cooperate with the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) if it wants to investigate American actor David Carradine's death in Bangkok, Colonel Somprasong Yentuam, superintendent of Lumpini police station, said yesterday.

Lumpini police are investigating Carradine's death to determine the cause.

Carradine's family has asked the FBI to help investigate his death.

Somprasong said the film crew manager had told police they would give testimony next week and that police had not yet concluded if the 72-year-old actor had committed suicide or been murdered, pending forensic investigation results.

Asked about the deceased's relatives' comment that they did not believe it was suicide and would ask the FBI to jointly investigate the case, Somprasong said he had not yet been told of such a move and police would do as their superiors decided. He said that if the FBI wanted to come in, he personally would be willing to cooperate to solve the mystery.

Carradine was found dead inside his suite at the Swissotel Nai Lert Park hotel on Thursday, and there was no trace of a fight or struggle.

He was married five times, most recently in 2004, and was the father of two daughters.

He was married five times?!

It's suicide.

[Datsun240Z]

Common why would he wants to kill himself? Was this his first time in Thailand btw?

[dtoodnut]

Maybe Quint can make a movie about this as I know anything would be better than the last one!!!

[jumnien]

Still no confirmation whether the shoelace came from a dress shoe or an athletic shoe?

[caf]

Any news of the fbi investigation with the bib?

[Carib]

Kill Bill star David Carradine did not commit suicide, said the doctor who oversaw a private autopsy on the actor. Carradine was found naked in a wardrobe with a cord around his neck and other parts of his body in Bangkok on 4 June.

Forensic pathologist Dr Michael Baden concluded that the Kung <deleted> star died from asphyxiation. The way the body was bound allowed him to rule out suicide.

"He didn't die of natural causes, and he didn't die of suicidal causes. That leaves some kind of accidental death."

See the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8130006.stm

[JonTan]

Kill Bill star David Carradine did not commit suicide, said the doctor who oversaw a private autopsy on the actor. Carradine was found naked in a wardrobe with a cord around his neck and other parts of his body in Bangkok on 4 June.

Forensic pathologist Dr Michael Baden concluded that the Kung <deleted> star died from asphyxiation. The way the body was bound allowed him to rule out suicide.

"He didn't die of natural causes, and he didn't die of suicidal causes. That leaves some kind of accidental death."

See the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8130006.stm

He should just have gone for a prostitute. It is cheap in Bangkok and a lot more fun.

[syd barrett]

CARRADINE DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF

Carradine Link

[TAWP]

I just love the 'revelation' that he didn't kill himself. It has only been known since day 1...

[elektrified]

I am curious why the out pouring of grief. Do the same people typing RIP also go to graves of total strangers and lay flowers? Just because someone makes good entertainment, it does not stop them from being nuts. Gary Glitter etc.

I heard about it and cracked the usual jokes and later sought out the photos.

I just can't wait for Nick Cage to found in an even stranger way!

I knew him and worked with him; as did several others who have commented on this forum. He was a decent person. Your comments are out of line. Show him some respect. He was a human being with a family who loved him. It doesn't matter if he was unusual.

And yes, some people do lay flowers on the graves of total strangers. It's called paying respect. Obviously you have not heard of it.

[Shotime]

Why bother. You'll never change an ignoramus. Where does Nick Cage come from?

[Datsun240Z]

Some how I feel the result of this investigation isn't the true story, it doesn't make sense. Guess we will never know.

[sabaijai]

More details on the case and Carradine's career.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/...robe-death.html

[LaoPo]

More details on the case and Carradine's career.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/...robe-death.html

Linked article was written early June and "Last updated at 1:22 AM on 07th June 2009" and thus dated; a month old.

LaoPo

[DaleBlue]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

Edited July 6, 2009 by DaleBlue

[TheLaughingMan]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

This might be a huge surprise to you, but some people refuse to engage in prostitutes. Shocking I know! Something to do with morality, or some such nonsense. Fascinating isn't it?

[cmdream]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

This might be a huge surprise to you, but some people refuse to engage in prostitutes. Shocking I know! Something to do with morality, or some such nonsense. Fascinating isn't it?

Yes fascinating, good bait, OK I'll take a bite. very judgmental !

[Benjie]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

This might be a huge surprise to you, but some people refuse to engage in prostitutes. Shocking I know! Something to do with morality, or some such nonsense. Fascinating isn't it?

These same people who strangle themselves to death while masturbating in a cupboard of a hotel, thank god for morals.

[Datsun240Z]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

This might be a huge surprise to you, but some people refuse to engage in prostitutes. Shocking I know! Something to do with morality, or some such nonsense. Fascinating isn't it?

I don't think that is nonsense, everybody believes in his own points of view. Not everybody wants to go to a prostitute, neither do I. I rather masturbate myself, than going to a hooker.

[Datsun240Z]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

This might be a huge surprise to you, but some people refuse to engage in prostitutes. Shocking I know! Something to do with morality, or some such nonsense. Fascinating isn't it?

These same people who strangle themselves to death while masturbating in a cupboard of a hotel, thank god for morals.

I believe he is murdered, why would he end his life? The truth is always kept secret, remember.

[Shotime]

I don't understand why men choice to have sex with themselves. Especially in Thailand. Although I disapprove of it, but to be realistic, sex partner in Thailand is not exactly difficult to find. Just give the bell boy a call, and things can be easily arranged at minimal cost (by western standard).

We always said, if I want good sex, I'll go masturbate (actually it's a different word we used).

[webfact]

Mods, please let let David Carradine RIP and close the topic!

thx

Edited July 16, 2009 by webfact

[Rainmon]

Mods, please let let David Carradine RIP and close the topic!

thx

CARRADINE'S PRODUCER PAL BLAMES LADY BOYS FOR 'MURDER

I would like to know the truth about what happen, see this article:

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/artic...-murder_1106868

Ted Gunderson says, "I believe he (Carradine) met two Lady Boys in the hotel bar... They are flirtatious, desperate for money and would have zeroed in on a celebrity like Carradine."

Gunderson is convinced the hookers drugged Carradine, hanged him and then set about staging what would look like a suicide.