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I've ordered today a New canon Eos by Krung Thai Bank (some purchasing finance service) for a 26.000 baht (with 18-55), payable in 6 months no interest.

I hope a good camera to start (I have previous experience with Nikon F2 and F3).

I like naturalist photography and I'm going to buy a telephoto too. Fotofile have this offer for a Canon 55-250. Look like a good deal. Somebody have this lens already? What about Tamron 70-300?

Some suggestions?

Thank you everybody

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I'm sorry to say but I don't think either of those lenses will do your camera justice.

I can see that money is an issue here but seriously you'll be disappointed in the IQ from these.

It's a lot more money I know but I'd save up and go for the 70-200 F4 L which on your cropped sensor will give 112mm - 320mm and will be perfect for your nature stuff.

Good, sharp lens with good detail and rendition

http://www.fotofile.net/product.php?id=409

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So I must going to pay a lens as much as the camera? Sigh

That's what I said while looking at the Nikon D90 and similar lens as Vulcan points out. :) But I had looked at the reviews of the lens Vulcan mentions and it is rated highly. Comes down to how much you can afford and what you will settle for in quality. I would recommend looking up some reviews on the specific lens you mention above and decide based on them. The Q & A in the pinned topic above shows some review sites you can try. Or just enter the lens model and "Reviews" into Google.

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I second The Vulcan's advice. The 70-200mm F4 is a fantastic lens and will serve you well for years. If you buy a cheap lens you will be disappointed and will eventually sell it (at a loss) to get something better.

Welcome to the bottomless financial hole that is the world of DSLR lenses!

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I bought the 450d for 22k end of last year and the lense you mention for 7k just a few weeks ago.

The lens is fine, but if you really want serious nature closeups, then it will not suffice and should go for the other recommendations.

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Yeah, the problem is I must buy the lens cash. Sigh...

Camera with Krung Thai Bank is 6 months no interest (about 4,300 baht month). Good deal.

Anyway I think I'll go with the 70-300. (f4-5.6 is a bit dark, but with the IS i think I can manage it)

26,800.... :)

P.S.: I'm so excited to try and learn the fabulous HDR technique!

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Enjoy your new camera, good choice.

I second the 70-200 F4 lens from Canon.

A superb piece of glass, unless you can afford the F2.8

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I'm sure you will enjoy your camera anyway.

My friend has the Nikon D300 (and wants the D700)...and he was very suprised with the photos I get from my Fuji Finepix S100fs which has a 28-400 zoom built-in (it is a 'Bridge' camera...not a DSLR)

I'm sure your combination will blow mine away...

your 70-300mm ...is that the 35mm Equivalent for your camera...I sup[pose it depends upon the sensor size....?

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Usually lenses are quoted according to a standard sensor.

So this means a real 70-300mm

112 - 480mm on a Canon 450D or similar (factor x 1.6)

Another thing to consider is that the 70-200mm is a fixed F4 across the focal range

whereas the 70-300 gets a whole stop slower as you zoom. :)

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Today the Canon EOS 450 D Arrive! Gulp, I must learn all the functionalities, need some time. Overall impressions, light, easy to point and shoot, lot of plastic. Very simple bundled lens (18-55).

Ok , is 11.30, lets go Chaloklum to start shoot!

Now I must start to spend some more money (70-300, polar. filter, etc.) sigh

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Today the Canon EOS 450 D Arrive! Gulp, I must learn all the functionalities, need some time. Overall impressions, light, easy to point and shoot, lot of plastic. Very simple bundled lens (18-55).

Ok , is 11.30, lets go Chaloklum to start shoot!

Now I must start to spend some more money (70-300, polar. filter, etc.) sigh

Stick it in high res jpeg, programme mode, evaluative metering, 200 iso and go and shoot!

Books later eh?

Have a nice time and lets see what you get

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I second vulcan on the 70-200 f4 it's the way to go, if the lens is to much to pay you can always go for the non is version of it. Use shutter of 1/320 sec or faster and you'll be ok. If you need longer shutter you can go up in iso on the camera, or use a tripod. Price is about the same as the 70-300 you are looking at...

The 450D is capable of some amazing images, but it needs good lenses to get there. When I bought my 450D I got the 17-55 f/2.8 IS with it, cost much more that the camera but the images is crystal sharp.

If it was me I would rather use time to get to know the camera, getting proficient in the settings and tweaks with it while I saved up money for the 70-200 f4 than buy an ok (ish) lens which the camera outperforms.

Also note if you step to higher than f8 aperture you get softness in the images, so really you want to stay as low as you can and up to f8. With the f4 you have two full steps, with the 70-300 you only have 2 until you reach the softness spot. On top of this the 70-200 f4 is dead sharp from wide open and up, while the 70-300 is not, which is another blow to darker lenses.

Just my 2 cents... Whatever you decide to go with you have a great camera which will give you heaps of happiness.

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Today the Canon EOS 450 D Arrive! Gulp, I must learn all the functionalities, need some time. Overall impressions, light, easy to point and shoot, lot of plastic. Very simple bundled lens (18-55).

Ok , is 11.30, lets go Chaloklum to start shoot!

Now I must start to spend some more money (70-300, polar. filter, etc.) sigh

Good luck with your new camera :) .....Chaloklum is a target rich environment to break it in. Take your time and learn the camera

and by that time you'll have some more budget and be thoroughly convinced of any additional lenses you may wish to have.

Whenever you visit a camera shop take your Canon 450D with you and an empty card. Many shops will let you try out the

lenses while you are in the shop and then you can go home and examine the pics to get a feel for what its like to shoot with

a wide range of lenses. Please post some pics when you have a chance.

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