Question Regarding Thai Passport For Child In Uk

[jbk]

Hi i am just enquiring incase anyone has any idea on the best way to get a thai passport for my son. I will give a quick brief below.

I an English

Wife has spouse visa not finished 2 years yet

Son was born in England has british passport and birth cert

Wife has gone don't know where she is not going into to much detail but don't really care could find her if i had to.

Left son with me i guess happens a lot with thais

I am thinking about going to live in Thailand and would like to get thai passport for my son.

Would this mean if he got a thai passport i could get some type of visa as i am his father so i don't need to do the monthly visa runs etc? (main reason for getting passport but my son will also then have both for his future)

I have checked the thai embassy website and called them but didn't really think they understood what i was asking as its a bit confusing it says (i have put in bold and underlined the questions i was asking them about).

Instruction for applying for a child's Birth Certificate

And requesting for an Electronic Passport

** Remark : E-passport applicants needs to make an appointment prior to arrival

at the Royal Thai Embassy. BOTH parents need to accompany the child.

1. Document required:

The valid passports of father and mother (including two photocopies);

One passport-sized photograph of the applicant taken within the previous 6 months;

Full Birth Certificate of the applicant issued by the British authority which provides the correct parents' names (including two photocopies);

Marriage Certificate of the parents (including two photocopies);

Divorce Certificate:

If parents are divorced or do not live together, a confirmation letter or document certifying child custody

(including two photocopies);

Father and mother's Thai Citizen Identity Cards or House Registration Document (Alien father or mother exempted) (including two photocopies);

Please be informed that both father and mother are requested to give consent for their child to apply for a Thai passport by signing a consent form in person at the Thai Embassy.

Note: In case the child was born before 25 th February 1992, the applicant is advised to contact the Royal Thai Embassy in advance for getting additional instruction.

2. How to complete the application forms for a child's Birth Certificate and Electronic Passport

Complete an application form for a child's Birth Certificate in Thai, using the detailed reference of Birth Certificate issued by British authority i.e. forename, surname, hospital name and weight at birth (in grams) clearly and correctly;

In the application form for a child's Birth certificate, box number 4.8, fill in the name of a person who notifies the birth which can be either father or mother of the child, but that person must be a Thai national. Indication of title of "Mrs/Mr" must not be given. For example: " Marisa Smith";

Complete an application form for Electronic Passport in Thai clearly and correctly, using the applicant's surname and forename as they appear on the current Thai Citizen Identity Card ( Form 1) :

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  You are required to fill in an additional Investigation Record Form with the applicant's name and other personal details of the applicant correctly in Thai. (Form 2);

Please be informed that the process of applying for the Thai Birth Certificate and a new passport takes 6-8 weeks as the new passport must be issued by the Consular Department in Bangkok, Thailand.

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I am confused as it says both parents need to sign the consent form but also says if you are divorced seperated letter confirming custody.

Another question would be as i am not thai and dont have id card or registered at a thai house would i even be able to get a thai passport for him.

I dont have custody in writing yet but as my wifes visa is not settlement yet but she wants to stay in UK i have a good barganing chip if needed.

I want to try and get the passport without her knowing if possible as you never know she may try stopping me if she can at the end of the day she just vanished and has made no attempt to see her son whatsover so i feel if i go to Thailand our son will at no loos. I would always leave contact details with my mum so she can contact us and visit our son when ever she wanted her sister lives in England so i would proberly tell her before we left and also give her our detais once we have settled in.

Thanks for reading and for any help anyone can be.

JBK

[Eff1n2ret]

Your child is Thai.

Having said that, you've highlighted the 2 difficult issues on the Embassy's information. You require written confirmation that you have custody, and your wife's consent in person will be required for the passport application.

If you are thinking of sponsoring your wife's application for ILR even though your marriage has broken down, you could be committing an offence, so think very carefully before you commit yourself to this.

In short, you require your wife's cooperation to secure a Thai passport for your son. Perhaps you can persuade her that she's doing the right thing for his future by signing over custody to you, and helping him to get a Thai passport, which is part of his birthright.