Registering A Baby

[JAG]

Best-Beloved is having a baby in July in Chiang Rai. I am the father and want to be registered as such. We are not married (yet) and I am not resident in Thailand, but visit 5 or so times a year. A Thai living in UK tells me that I cannot be registered as father, does anyone know otherwise?

[meds]

Best-Beloved is having a baby in July in Chiang Rai. I am the father and want to be registered as such. We are not married (yet) and I am not resident in Thailand, but visit 5 or so times a year. A Thai living in UK tells me that I cannot be registered as father, does anyone know otherwise?

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Well, I´m not sure about the routines over there, but as I understand, my brother had little, or no problems with it. The baby (who was born in January this year) even has his surname.

He´s been living there since late august 2004 though, don´t know if that makes any difference.

(he´s a Swede, by the way)

Good luck to you, anyhow!

Edited March 10, 2005 by meds

[AndyW]

Getting your name on the Thai birth certificate shouldn't be a problem.

My son's birth was also registered at the British Embassy. I think it helps if you're legally married. You'll need a copy of your "long birth certificate" with you to do this. Check the British Embassy, Bangkok website for more info.

[chanchao]

Ask your embassy.

Not sure about the UK, but for many countries it's better if you formally recognize the kid as your own before birth. I think this also requires some translated papers of your partner, such as one from the amphur claiming she's not married.

Again, UK may be different.

[chanchao]

While on the topic: I heard it's possible to give your kid multiple first names, also on the Thai birth certificate. I'd of course inlcude a Thai name, but would it be better if the Thai name came first in front of any other names?

[phuketrichard]

OK:

here ya go

I am american and had a child with a thai lady, NOT married.

On the birth certificate I am listed as the father and she the mother.

The child has MY last name and a her first name is Angela, no thai name.

With the bc I took that to the us embassy and got a report of child born abroad whiuch then makes her American

she holds passports for both countries!!

Don't let them tell you that you can't be on the Birth certificate, If you are not on it you will have real problems later with getting her into your country. A friend of mine was not on his daughters BC and then had to legaaly adopt her later. A real pain in the ass.

DO NOT let them tell you she needs a thai name thats BS.

[meds]

While on the topic: I heard it's possible to give your kid multiple first names, also on the Thai birth certificate.  I'd of course inlcude a Thai name, but would it be better if the Thai name came first in front of any other names?

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Sure, would it not be more convinient with a Thai name in Thailand? Immigrants in Sweden with weird (you know how I mean) names does unfortunately not have it as easy going as those with more Swedish-like names.

[Neeranam]

Sure, would it not be more convinient with a Thai name in Thailand? Immigrants in Sweden with weird (you know how I mean) names does unfortunately not have it as easy going as those with more Swedish-like names.

It's simple man.

Give the kid two first names, or should that be a first name and a second.

Give a 'normal' name like 'Helga' then a 'weird' name like 'Siriporn'. Only if it's a girl

The kid, when grown up can choose depending on where he/she is/prefers.

My daughter has two 'given' names on her Thai passport and her British passport.

Edited March 10, 2005 by Neeranam

[charles]

Best-Beloved is having a baby in July in Chiang Rai. I am the father and want to be registered as such. We are not married (yet) and I am not resident in Thailand, but visit 5 or so times a year. A Thai living in UK tells me that I cannot be registered as father, does anyone know otherwise?

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I think you can be registered as the father. However, IMO by far the most important issue is whether you want your child to have British citizenship as well as Thai. It is perhaps stating the obvious to say that having a British passport brings a few advantages.

If you get married (i.e. registered marriage) before the birth your child is basically automatically entitled to get a British birth certificate and passport. If you are not married before the birth, it is still possible to apply for British citizenship but it is a much more complex, long drawn-out process with no guarantees.

You can read all about this at the Bangkok British Embassy website - it explains things pretty well.

[Neeranam]

Don't let them tell you that you can't be on the Birth certificate, If you are not on it you will have real problems later with getting her into your country. A friend of mine was not on his daughters BC and then had to legaaly adopt her later. A real pain in the ass.

DO NOT let them tell you she needs a thai name thats BS.

Quite, RichardPhucket.

I got heaps of bad information from people on the name issue.

Some said that there must only be a Thai name on the BC. etc.

I have known some guys who had problems with some hospitals.

If you go to a hospital like Bumrungrad, they sort it all out for you.(FOR A PRICE!!!!). I would never pay for my wife to go there again, but I won't say why here, a totally different thread - cheating ripoff bsatards!

[mcfester]

Sure, would it not be more convinient with a Thai name in Thailand? Immigrants in Sweden with weird (you know how I mean) names does unfortunately not have it as easy going as those with more Swedish-like names.

It's simple man.

Give the kid two first names, or should that be a first name and a second.

Give a 'normal' name like 'Helga' then a 'weird' name like 'Siriporn'. Only if it's a girl

The kid, when grown up can choose depending on where he/she is/prefers.

My daughter has two 'given' names on her Thai passport and her British passport.

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Is it not so that no matter what the given name is they will be called Noi or Lek, or even simplier AAA or OOO

[COBBER]

OK:

here ya go

I am american and had a child with a thai lady, NOT married.

On the birth certificate I am listed as the father and she the mother.

The child has MY last name and a her first name is Angela,  no thai name.

With the bc I took that to the us embassy and got a report of child born abroad whiuch then makes her American

she holds passports for both countries!!

Don't  let them tell you that you can't be on the Birth certificate,  If you are not on it you will have real problems later with getting her into your country.  A friend of mine was not on his daughters BC and then had to legaaly adopt her later.  A real pain in the ass.

DO NOT let them tell you she needs a thai name  thats BS.

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Jag , Richard has it pretty well summed up but i will add this.

You take your passport to the hospital and your name will be on the birth certificate as the father.You can name the child whatever you want, there is no need for any part of the name to be thai. Remember that some muslims only have 1 name. The nurse that was present at the delivery does the paperwork and you take this to the local district office to get the birth certificate. They will give you the paperwork for the childs house registration and you must do this if you want a thai passport for the child. You dont have to give the child a name straight away.We didnt name our son untill 2 weeks after the birth.

[geordie]

To registar your baby in your name you need a translation of your passport details page from your embassy.

Baby does not need Thai name first, my baby is called Annabel with my last name, i am married though and my wife has also taken my family name. Annabel has also got British birth certificate and passport.

Good luck hope everything goes well for you.

[Greer]

Both of my Bangkok born children have Thai first names in honour of the Thai side of their heritage, and my (farang) surname on their birth certificates. My wife and I were legally married and registered (at the Amphur, not through a local village ceremony) at the time they were born. Both children are registered as Thai and have Thai passports as well as my country's citizenship and passports in their own right. The best advice is to speak to the embassy of your country, and GET THE NAME of the person you speak to, and the time and date of the conversation. This point is VERY serious - if there is any query or problem later, the embassy will expect you to quote who it was you spoke to that gave you advice on the subject - this is their get-out if you haven't the details.

[Backpack_thailand]

To registar your baby in your name you need a translation of your passport details page from your embassy.

Not true!

My 15 month old son has been registered via the hospital > local amphur. The birth certificate is in Thai & English.

He has two first names, Jack Albert, and my family name. His mother and me, though together for 6 years, are not married!

Little Jack now has his own passport and getting this was a breeze. Just needed his birth certificate plus copies of my passport and his mother's ID card.

He is known to the local Thais by his Thai name, "Nong Jack!"

[charles]

To registar your baby in your name you need a translation of your  passport details page from your embassy.

??? Don't think the British Embassy does English to Thai translations.

[Neeranam]

[quoteQUOTE(geordie @ 2005-03-10 21:02:10)

To registar your baby in your name you need a translation of your passport details page from your embassy.

??? Don't think the British Embassy does English to Thai translations.

I never needed to do that.

I didn't have to go to the Amphur, the hospital gave me the Thai BC and translated English BC.

The British embassy doesn't do any translations!

[geordie]

Should have re- worded what i said. i had to go to the embassy get them to comfirm my passport page details, put the embassy stamp on it then get it translated into thai and take that to the Amphur.

Different rules different places.