American Pensioner Arrested For Underage Sex

[The_Moog]

Maybe someone can explain their own morals on this as it appears that you were dragged up with an amoral attitude.

Regardless of the law the real question is how many of you who are being blase about this will be looking for sex with sixteen year olds in school uniform when you are 61? Let's hope you all get locked up and have the key thrown away before then.

But this arrest is on legal grounds. He's in custody and that is that. Justice will be done according to the law.

Moral/ethical debate is redundant here and opinions are fixed and nobody will be persuaded (so breath is being wasted).

If tourists want to take their chances with 16 year olds they do so at their own risk. In the past farangs have had a jolly good run on gamine Thai girls, - sometimes they have been knived. Its a jungle. You take the bad with the good.

Nobody here has the influence to change the Law in Thailand, whether fair or unfair.

[davet58]

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They were locked together in the throes of beastly passion.

Her ripe apricot buttocks juxtaposed with his withered loins.

His thin mottled lips brushed her Devil's Pillows, oh how he was tempted by the Forbidden Fruit, but for him, it was the elixir of life, his passport to eternal youth.

Her nubbin came into view....

..... he coughed , clenched his wrinkled buttocks and simultaneously broke wind and dribbled weakly from his warty member.

"I love you long time Mr Louis"

"Call me 'Grandpa' "

"Grandpa - make me squeal like a piggy"

His false teeth fell on her firm pointy knockers.

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...upon reaching his much-sought goal, he withdrew his soon-flaccid love-sword, rolled onto his back, wiped the drool from the side of his fruit-ripe lips, clasped his hands across his hairy, porcine belly, and said ....

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a frien d of mine is 61 has all his own hair and teeth a huge dong, is a six foot tall judo black belt and no wrinkly bottom, 61 is the new 41,so less of the old fart!you young good for nothings!

[The_Eye_Of_Sauron]

a friend of mine is 61 has all his own hair and teeth a huge dong,  is a six foot tall judo black belt and no wrinkly bottom

How do you know about his big dong and smooth buttocks may I ask?

[Anon999]

But this arrest is on legal grounds. He's in custody and that is that. Justice will be done according to the law.

Moral/ethical debate is redundant here and opinions are fixed and nobody will be persuaded (so breath is being wasted).

If tourists want to take their chances with 16 year olds they do so at their own risk. In the past farangs have had a jolly good run on gamine Thai girls, - sometimes they have been knived. Its a jungle. You take the bad with the good.

Nobody here has the influence to change the Law in Thailand, whether fair or unfair.

The Moog your're absolutely right, however, it is the attitude that prevails which makes it sound as though it's OK to do this in Thailand because all the young girls are whores.

Why do these perverts come to Thailand? Because they believe it is easier to get away with it than on their own country. That maybe so but it does not mean that farangs should condone their activities. Unless of course you do not care about what Thais think about us? Tarred with the same brush, etc.

Respect is something that can only be earned and the sort of remarks made by some people do not help. Maybe the same people who complain about being treated as second class citizens. I wonder why???

Whether the Thais put their own house in order is not up to us. However, things can change if you show by example and do not condone the activities of sex tourists or for that matter any resident farangs who do the same thing.

[The_Moog]

it does not mean that farangs should condone their activities. Unless of course you do not care about what Thais think about us?

This news was released on the MCOT website - which seems pretty cusp-y journalism to me. It was intended to be provocative - along the 'bad farang' lines.

Are people condoning Louis? - I don't think so, he sounds like an incorrigibly scungy guy. I don't think anyone sincerely cares about his fate.

I think they are saying, 'Given the blurred legal parameters, something along these lines could easily happen to even a nice type of guy, and 'there but for the grace of God go I'.

The Thai law seems pretty unclear on what you can do at 16, 17, 18.....and even after 155 posts on this topic, I still don't know either.

Edited March 11, 2005 by The_Moog

[PvtDick]

Why do these perverts come to Thailand?

Maybe it's because there are so many Thais who will do anything for money -- including selling themselves, their sons, and their daughters?

[davet58]

a friend of mine is 61 has all his own hair and teeth a huge dong,  is a six foot tall judo black belt and no wrinkly bottom

How do you know about his big dong and smooth buttocks may I ask?

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we sure as ###### didnt swap spit in in the showers but we do share same health club and are not ashamed of our ageing bodies ,i have seen some sorry looking unfit fat 30 year olds though

[pschef]

Why do these perverts come to Thailand?

Maybe it's because there are so many Thais who will do anything for money -- including selling themselves, their sons, and their daughters?

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I have only one thing to add, after reading miles of the same BS about old young or whoever did or did not. Why do we have many bars or places selling this kind of sex??? OPPS Playschool springs to mind Smooth buttocks indeed, you wish.

[The_Eye_Of_Sauron]

we sure as ###### didnt swap spit in in the showers  but we do share same health club and are not ashamed of our ageing bodies  ,i have seen some sorry looking unfit fat 30 year olds though

...having an ageing body doesn't affect dong size.

[davet58]

Why do these perverts come to Thailand?

Maybe it's because there are so many Thais who will do anything for money -- including selling themselves, their sons, and their daughters?

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I have only one thing to add, after reading miles of the same BS about old young or whoever did or did not. Why do we have many bars or places selling this kind of sex??? OPPS Playschool springs to mind Smooth buttocks indeed, you wish.

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i will let you run your hands over them if you wish , bit hairy though

[IsaanAlex]

...having an ageing body doesn't affect dong size.

Technically that may be the case. But aging is often associated with a staedy increase in bodyfat content-and that does affect dong 'size.

After being seriosuly injured about 3 years ago (and gaining about 40lbs)...I can personally attest to the fact that a man loses approximately a 1/2 inch of c.ock per 10-15 lbs of fat gained; the padding robs you of length.

It was a very sad situation indeed.

I didn't, I'd still have just as much right to comment on this board as yourself.

100% Agreed. I never kid myelf that I have a greater right to comment than anyone else on the board. I often feel that what I say is worth more , but not necessarily in this instance, hehe.

It seems that we're simply in disagreement.

Aussies say - you seem to have 'gone troppo' a typical expat ailment where you feel like a local & therefore superior to other foreigners. You'll get over it.

I've spent much less time in Thailand than many. But I can in all modesty say that I have a knack for determining context and pulling lessons....from different situations.

And, in any case;

(1) I think most Thais are complete dumbasses and want to go local....about as much as your friendly neighborhood Somchai is aching to get out of his hammock and put in a full days work...

And,

(2) I thought much the same in Canada as I do now. I was lucky enough to grow up with an Eastern European Refugee father who had the nuts to call bullshit on a lot of the smug &lt;deleted&gt; they try to indoctrinate the masses in...

Your knowledge of the country is great but the same cannot be said of your judgement.

And just when I thought we were starting to get along.

It's exploitation, pure & simple.

We're just not going to agree on this so I'll save the good Dr. some bandwith....

IA

[Anon999]

I think they are saying,  'Given the blurred legal parameters, something along these lines could easily happen to even a nice type of guy, and 'there but for the grace of God go I'.

The Thai law seems pretty unclear on what you can do at 16, 17, 18.....and even after 155 posts on this topic, I still don't know either.

Moog how can you equate a nice type of guy with being a sex tourist? As he is old enough to be her great grandfather and had been taking nud_e (pornographic) photo's of her and other children/minors it does not make sense. So I do not think 'they' are saying that.

From your comments do I take it you are 61?

In my book a 'nice type of guy' does not get caught in a hotel room naked, with a naked schoolgirl who had been in school uniform. Anyone who's into that is a pervert, if they just stick to adults then no problem. Sometimes young girls try to lead men on but in this case it seems not and if they do then give them a very wide berth.

[jomama]

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They were locked together in the throes of beastly passion.

Her ripe apricot buttocks juxtaposed with his withered loins.

His thin mottled lips brushed her Devil's Pillows, oh how he was tempted by the Forbidden Fruit, but for him, it was the elixir of life, his passport to eternal youth.

Her nubbin came into view....

..... he coughed , clenched his wrinkled buttocks and simultaneously broke wind and dribbled weakly from his warty member.

"I love you long time Mr Louis"

"Call me 'Grandpa' "

"Grandpa - make me squeal like a piggy"

His false teeth fell on her firm pointy knockers.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

...upon reaching his much-sought goal, he withdrew his soon-flaccid love-sword, rolled onto his back, wiped the drool from the side of his fruit-ripe lips, clasped his hands across his hairy, porcine belly, and said ....

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“Was that as good for you as it was for me?”

She replied: “Arai na khaa?”

“Gawd I love this country,” he said. “I don’t know how I can ever leave.”

He got up and wrapped a towel around his waist, but before he could reach the mini-bar, the door burst open, and six of Thailand’s finest rushed in.

Shocked, he allowed the towel to lose its tenuous grip. Amid peals of laughter, the men searched the room, soon finding and swallowing the rest of his Viagra. He was allowed to regain his colorful, tropical shirt and khaki shorts. ‘Cuffed, he was led from the room as the others eyed the still-moist student.

Later, photos were found and taken to be copied and sent for wider distribution.

[taxexile]

reasonably tapped into what Thais think and don't think; the majority don't care about this...nonsense.

i think you are right there.

its just another case of someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting caught by police who want to catch somebody for something , probably at the behest of the americans , is he wanted back in the states for something ??

but the thais wont bat an eyelid at this , just as they dont at the case of the kanchanaburi cop , falangs ( including myself ) are opened mouthed with horror at the injustice of the way the case is proceding , but for thais its just everyday stuff , it happens to them all the time.

the american was probably set up , but was foolish to be doing what he was doing .

given the strength of feeling these days to such things and the obvious immoralty of it , he put the noose around his own neck .

[Thaiquila]

More related to some of the previous posts, but I sincerely think the term PERVERT is thrown around as a verbal weapon, and is really overused.

Some people here seem to suggest an older person who sexually desires an attractive younger person (I am NOT talking about pedophilia or attraction to young children, which is a separate issue)

that they are a pervert. I contend that sexual attraction to attractive young people is as common and natural and breathing, and to deny it is basically hypocritical.

Thai go go bars know this to be the case and they commercially exploit this fact of life, as the workers are generally are generally well under age 30.

Explain this to me. Why is it so common in the West for rich, successful older men to dump their aging wives for a nice young (legal age of course) bit of stuff? Are they considered perverts? Perhaps you could call them superficial, but many people are jealous of them. In many cases, they are responding to a normal male human urge to continue to feel sexual, and their aging mates can not arouse them anymore. Personally very sad perhaps for the dumped women, but a social reality.

Edited March 12, 2005 by Thaiquila

[IsaanAlex]

i think you are right there.

its just another case of someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting caught by police who want to catch somebody for something , probably at the behest of the americans , is he wanted back in the states for something ??

but the thais wont bat an eyelid at this , just as they dont at the case of the kanchanaburi cop , falangs ( including myself ) are opened mouthed with horror at the injustice of the way the case is proceding , but for thais its just everyday stuff , it happens to them all the time.

the american was probably set up , but was foolish to be doing what he was doing .

given the strength of feeling these days to such things and the obvious immoralty of it , he put the noose around his own neck .

Agreed. He is a victim of circumstance and his own stupidity.

He is seems a perfect example of a visitor who doesn't understand the subtext to what he's seeing in Thailand.

Not so different than the guy who gets off a plane and immediately hits Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phuket and Pattaya...for his 2 week vacatation...and then somehow get's into his think skull that all Thai women are sluts...so he offers the Thai airways check-in clerk 500 baht for a quickie on his way out at the airport.

Judging by his memory stick he looks like he's either a real perv. or a commercial reseller of the pics (as well as being a real perv ); that's just not done here, IMHO. You can do but after awhile I feel certain that it will come to an end.

If he wants to run through the young stuff (16/17/18) he has to be mindful of the context. He should just go screw 16 year olds in brothels and take his own schoolgirl outfits.

It doesn't matter how you cut it, the police would be less 'horrified' to find a real schoolgirl in a brothel than a hard-bitten whore dressed up as a schoolgirl in a short-time motel. It's the appearance. In their (limited minds) even a 13 year old chained to a bed in a brothel is 'obviously' a whore..., i.e. no biggie.

[The man was really showing his impatience in any case as this young innocent widdle schoolgirl probably will be in a brothel eventually anyways.-say 6 months.

She's not retailing for Teco-Lotus for 5 and a half days a week for 5000 baht after she just got 5000 baht for boning some old American...].

The other thing he could do if he was a long-stayer is to just make her his girlfriend or mea noi. Then he can do like the local Somchais and be all bak wan and talk &lt;deleted&gt; to her and she will listen and not beleive a thing. He'll 'help' her will her 'studies'...and sure he'll be a little kinky getting her to take pictures and such, but he's her 'big hubby'...and she's his mea noi.

Then, a month later (while concurrently going through the whole charade with a few other 'mea nois') he will leave her.

Oh, the sorrow. She is so heartbroken...but he is butterfly.....and

REPEAT

Now that's context that, IMHO, is not getting ANYONE thrown into jail.

Buy my book now.

And yes; I do accept Paypal.

IA

Edited March 12, 2005 by IsaanAlex

[Sphere]

a friend of mine is 61 has all his own hair and teeth a huge dong,  is a six foot tall judo black belt and no wrinkly bottom

How do you know about his big dong and smooth buttocks may I ask?

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Mirrors on the ceiling?

[Sphere]

If it went from 2,000 to 5,000 baht just to go from schoolgirl pics to nube pics I can only wonder how much he'd have paid her to bone her.

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That's just the type of question that should be on the new IQ test....!

[IsaanAlex]

That's just the type of question that should be on the new IQ test....! 

It reminds me of the inner city math teacher in the US who came up with 'ghetto-math'..quiz's

Question 1;

................

So you gotz a two hunerd dolla a day crack habit, but is pimpin' 2 biatches who pull in 20 bucks a trick at 7 tricks per day each. Yer only other 'ekpenses' is yo 36 dolla motel room and 22 bucks fo yo 'pay as you go'...mobile phone...

How much 'bling bling' youse gozt at the end of the day?

hehe

IA

Edited March 12, 2005 by IsaanAlex

[pedro01]

we sure as ###### didnt swap spit in in the showers  but we do share same health club and are not ashamed of our ageing bodies   ,i have seen some sorry looking unfit fat 30 year olds though

...having an ageing body doesn't affect dong size.

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Phew - that's one less thing for me to worry about then

[The_Eye_Of_Sauron]

...having an ageing body doesn't affect dong size.

Phew - that's one less thing for me to worry about then

Unfortunately we have now established that it does have an adverse effect, as Alex's is disappearing fast.

[Terminator]

What bugs me is that when there are Thai's involved they only get 2 reply's, see this topic>

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29246

When it comes to us farangs we get slagged, 171 reply's already, go figure

[triplegee]

Here's a pic of the guy who kicked all this off...

He was very careless in my opinion. Doing not much worse than many before him.

[kat]

give your mom a call, see what she has to say. Seriously, if you have lost perpective,...

My mom taught me right.

She couldn't give a rats ass. She was 17/18 when she married my dad who is 12 years older. Her mother was 16 or so when she was married to her father (my grandfather).

My fathers first wife was 16 also.

Interesting to see that people's sexuality has 'evolved' in such a short period of time so that what was once considered natural is now considered obscene or even criminal.

ask a few of your old buddies from home, see what they have to say.

Most people from 'home' have shit for brains. They believe whatever the government or Cosmo magazine told them last issue.

The saddest thing is how the men actually listen to the nonsense that the females primarily push.

The same hags that were bragging to me at 15 about having 25 and and 30 year old boyfriends...but who started to call me a pedo at 21, when I had a 17 year old girlfriend.

Why do we have to ask other people when we have all the right answers?

[btw. It's even worse to see what bitches most of them have turned into now that all of them except one are divorced with kids; and all of the guys in the group with intact marriages are the men who married Thais, Japanese and Koreans, haha

So someone best tell me why I should be taking marriage or lifestyle tips from people who can't even hold together marriages...or sexuality advice from hags who aren't even getting any....and probably don't want me getting any either ]

Furthermore, peoples public and private faces are so different that I usually disregard the nonsense that people publicly spout; so many have changed their tune when they know you better and I don't know a single man personally who thinks for one second that sleeping with a 16 year old 'girl' is either 'icky' or morally wrong.

Those of you married to western females...save this shit for them; I'm not buying it!

At least I have a Thai wife who admits that if she was a man she would be screwing 14 year old 'girls'.

We both hope for technology to develop to the point that I can be transported back so I can nail her at 14 as well...

IA

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At least I have a Thai wife who admits that if she was a man she would be screwing 14 year old 'girls'.

We both hope for technology to develop to the point that I can be transported back so I can nail her at 14 as well...

IA

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Does your wife have any sisters I will be moving to thailand next year.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Maybe the better question is whether or not he has any daughters. Remember, he already said he would have no problem marrying off a 13-year-old to a 61 year old Westerner. Perhaps you should make him and charming his wife an offer

What a happy family. A Thai woman who has no problem with a grown man f*cking a 14 y/o, and a farang husband who admits that he would marry-off an

"at risk" 13 y/o daughter. I can only wonder if you readily adapt to the other Thai "traditions" of many father/daughter relationships that produce at-risk girls. Maybe these girls will be fortunate enough to never be born, or better yet, you will not be able to breed. I don't know which would be worse, a man like you the father of daughters or sons

[TypicalAnonym]

ผมพูดภาษาได้เก่งแล้วนะ

You spelled "Thai" wrong: ไทย

[IsaanAlex]

Maybe the better question is whether or not he has any daughters. Remember, he already said he would have no problem marrying off a 13-year-old to a 61 year old Westerner. Perhaps you should make him and charming his wife an offer

Sorry. We're not producing any at-risk daughters at the moment; the curse of responsible parenting...

What a happy family. A Thai woman who has no problem with a grown man f*cking a 14 y/o, and a farang husband who admits that he would marry-off an "at risk" 13 y/o daughter.

....to a farang as a preferable alternative to waiting till she is 19 only to have her marry your average Thai guy.

Get your facts straight.

And I stand by it.

[ I can only wonder if you readily adapt to the other Thai "traditions" of many father/daughter relationships that produce at-risk girls.

And what would these be?

Maybe these girls will be fortunate enough to never be born, or better yet, you will not be able to breed. I don't know which would be worse, a man like you the father of daughters or sons 

People like you would ruin children with your nonsense; it must be uncomfortable to have your head so far up your own ass.

IA

[Abandon]

I really wish someone would close this thread.

We've heard all the arguements before; it's not a nice topic; and no one is contributing anything remotely new or interesting.

[sabaijai]

Agreed, Pandit35. Topic now closed.