churchill Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 A group of scientists claim that the common ancestor of humans, monkeys and apes originated in Asia, and not in Africa. The international team of paleontologists has shown that these primates, which are 37 million years old and named Ganlea megacanina, had an ability observed today in modern monkeys - they pried open and ate seeds in a specific way by using their greatly enlarged canine teeth. Why is this so important? Well, this ability is one of the reasons that justify species being placed in the family of anthropoid primates – the lineage that gave rise to humans. “Ganlea megacanina shows that the first anthropoids originated in Asia rather than in Africa,” said French paleontologist Professor Laurent Marivaux who together with Professor Jean-Jacques Jaeger led the research. In primates, there exist two major lineages - anthropoid primates (monkeys, apes and humans) and prosimians, considered to be more primitive and whose best-known representatives today are lemurs. Until now, scientists assumed that anthropoid primates originated in Africa. Working together with several colleagues, Marivaux and Jaeger have for the past 20 years been carrying out excavations in Asia, specifically in China, Thailand, Pakistan and Myanmar (formerly Burma), where they started exploring in 1999. In November 2005, the researchers discovered several fossils in central Myanmar dating from 37 million years ago and belonging to a new species of primate - Ganlea megacanina. In November 2008, part of the lower jaw of one member of this species was discovered – a find that provided the paleontologists with powerful evidence supporting an Asian origin for anthropoid primates. The new primate has greatly enlarged canine teeth which show heavy abrasion, indicating that Ganlea megacanina used them to pry open the tough exteriors of tropical fruit in order to extract the nutritious seeds contained inside. This is an unusual form of feeding adaptation that has never been observed in prosimian primates such as lemurs. Ganlea and its closest relatives inhabited Myanmar 37 million years ago during the Eocene period, in a tropical flood plain that was very similar to the modern Amazon Basin. They belonged to an extinct family of Asian anthropoid primates, the Amphipithecidae. Four other amphipithecids had previously been discovered in Asia - two in Myanmar, one in Thailand and one in Pakistan. A detailed analysis of their evolutionary relationships shows that they are closely related to today's anthropoid primates, and that the Myanmar forms evolved from a single common ancestor. The expeditions were the fruit of a long-lasting collaboration between scientists from several academic institutions in Myanmar with the University of Poitiers via IPHEP, ISEM, the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh, and the Department of Mineral Resources in Bangkok, Thailand . http://www.labnews.co.uk/laboratory_articl...-human-origins-
Birdman Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 At the moment there are 8 copy/paste threads by the op at page 1 of the General Topics Forum. That would be quiet ok, if the topics are worth it. But one was moved and others have 0 response. So, if the op is posting always in that style, other threads go to page 2 and therefore will not be looked by the majority anymore. But if they would stay on the first page, interesting discussions would still be possible.
dkstoney Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 I think it's incorrect to say that the monkeys are extinct when they know darn good and well they're running around all over the place in Thailand. Many of them have jobs and even drive motorbikes.
sassienie Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 A group of scientists claim that the common ancestor of humans, monkeys and apes originated in Asia, and not in Africa. The international team of paleontologists has shown that these primates, which are 37 million years old and named Ganlea megacanina, had an ability observed today in modern monkeys - they pried open and ate seeds in a specific way by using their greatly enlarged canine teeth. Why is this so important? Well, this ability is one of the reasons that justify species being placed in the family of anthropoid primates – the lineage that gave rise to humans. “Ganlea megacanina shows that the first anthropoids originated in Asia rather than in Africa,” said French paleontologist Professor Laurent Marivaux who together with Professor Jean-Jacques Jaeger led the research. In primates, there exist two major lineages - anthropoid primates (monkeys, apes and humans) and prosimians, considered to be more primitive and whose best-known representatives today are lemurs. Until now, scientists assumed that anthropoid primates originated in Africa. Working together with several colleagues, Marivaux and Jaeger have for the past 20 years been carrying out excavations in Asia, specifically in China, Thailand, Pakistan and Myanmar (formerly Burma), where they started exploring in 1999. In November 2005, the researchers discovered several fossils in central Myanmar dating from 37 million years ago and belonging to a new species of primate - Ganlea megacanina. In November 2008, part of the lower jaw of one member of this species was discovered – a find that provided the paleontologists with powerful evidence supporting an Asian origin for anthropoid primates. The new primate has greatly enlarged canine teeth which show heavy abrasion, indicating that Ganlea megacanina used them to pry open the tough exteriors of tropical fruit in order to extract the nutritious seeds contained inside. This is an unusual form of feeding adaptation that has never been observed in prosimian primates such as lemurs. Ganlea and its closest relatives inhabited Myanmar 37 million years ago during the Eocene period, in a tropical flood plain that was very similar to the modern Amazon Basin. They belonged to an extinct family of Asian anthropoid primates, the Amphipithecidae. Four other amphipithecids had previously been discovered in Asia - two in Myanmar, one in Thailand and one in Pakistan. A detailed analysis of their evolutionary relationships shows that they are closely related to today's anthropoid primates, and that the Myanmar forms evolved from a single common ancestor. The expeditions were the fruit of a long-lasting collaboration between scientists from several academic institutions in Myanmar with the University of Poitiers via IPHEP, ISEM, the Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh, and the Department of Mineral Resources in Bangkok, Thailand . http://www.labnews.co.uk/laboratory_articl...-human-origins- Absolutely agree. You should see some of my neighbours, enough to convince anybody.
Harcourt Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 So while French and American universities fund the explorations and excavations to hunt for monkey bones, Thailand's contribution is geologists hunting mineral resources....smart.
Richard W Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 I think it's incorrect to say that the monkeys are extinct when they know darn good and well they're running around all over the place in Thailand. Many of them have jobs and even drive motorbikes. A zoological family does not have to include the whole clade, so it is quite legitimate to say that the amphipithecids are extinct.
roamer Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 It's really not that simple; there are quite a few TV members that stepped into the gene pool when the lifeguard wasn't looking.
WhingeingMoaners Posted September 6, 2009 Posted September 6, 2009 I think it's incorrect to say that the monkeys are extinct when they know darn good and well they're running around all over the place in Thailand. Many of them have jobs and even drive motorbikes. Actually, I am not sure about the ubiquity of primates in the Land of Smiles; but if you ever visit any beach areas in Thailand, you can bet your life that you are going to see many schools of whales lying around on the sand; most of them communicate in English.
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