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G'day,

I often wondered why the street lamps are not joined by overland wires while the wires carrying electricity and the phone wires are?

I have seen them digging at the side of the roads (not sure why, but it wasn't too deep) here in Chiang Mai, and now at a different stretch near the highway, they are digging up deeper holes to sink bigger water drainage channels. Why do they not bury the wires at the same time? Are electricity wires and phone wires that much more complicated to deal with?

Matt

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different agencies, different budgets..zero co-ordination.

It is quite odd that the private sector has to show the way here when it is possibly the reverse elsewhere! Places the Shangri-La etc, but still not even major places like the malls bother to dress themselves up.

My wife was saying they redo the water channel thing ever so often. When it's choked, they just put in the next size up when they could have planned a little ahead. Guess it keeps people employed.

Matt

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I can only add that in my home city of Bristol England , they put in massive drainage systems and all of the services were installed inside of them , many , many years ago before I was born .

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Most drains could cope if they stopped the labourers filling them up with the detritus of the workings. Little wonder that parts of Pattaya flood. It would help if all the drains were below the level of the road too.

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It's called forward planning. Unfortunately, the Thai governments do not work that way. I live in a neighbourhood on Vancouver Island that has all underground wiring: electricity, telephone, cable, etc. It is visually pleasing and allows for more greenery which makes the place more restful.

It wouldn't be difficult to install the wiring when other projects are being done and just leave it until the time comes when the funds are available to complete the project. But, that would take forward thinking people in charge and it's unlikely to happen any time soon in Thailand. All Thailand does is band-aid fixes.

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different agencies, different budgets..zero co-ordination.

Spot on, ole chap.

Back in England in the street where I lived, they first dug a hole and laid telephone cables. A year later it was dug up again and they laid fibre cables for the Internet. Soon after the same hole was dug up again for the installing of electricity cables.

No logic to it at all.

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It's called forward planning. Unfortunately, the Thai governments do not work that way. I live in a neighbourhood on Vancouver Island that has all underground wiring: electricity, telephone, cable, etc. It is visually pleasing and allows for more greenery which makes the place more restful.

It's so true. On several major roads, they planted trees on the what you can call sidewalks. One side of the road has the poles while the other hasn't. There is a zero chance for the trees on the pole side to get to full height because they will grow into the wires! So I often see them pruning the trees, and since the other side is supposed to be a mirror image, they get the chop too.

If not for those wires, the trees could have grown and made the roads look so much nicer.

Back in England in the street where I lived, they first dug a hole and laid telephone cables. A year later it was dug up again and they laid fibre cables for the Internet. Soon after the same hole was dug up again for the installing of electricity cables.

No logic to it at all.

They do pretty much the same in Singapore, but at least they bothered (or have the budget) to think about putting such things underground instead of taking the easy way out.

Matt

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the dig up the main road to my home so much, I would suggest installing zippers

:):D:D

I like that idea. There is probably some modern method of actually making it happen.

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I have seen them digging at the side of the roads (not sure why, but it wasn't too deep) here in Chiang Mai, and now at a different stretch near the highway, they are digging up deeper holes to sink bigger water drainage channels. Why do they not bury the wires at the same time? Are electricity wires and phone wires that much more complicated to deal with?

dont think i would want drainage and cables running in the same channels

but if youre talking about proper trenching for services, that would be a good idea

like some one has said, its about cost, and a quick fix

it needs to be co ordinated at a higher level to be done, but unfortunately, most politicians/administrators are only looking out for #1

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The cables/services are not run IN the water but in self contained , readily accessable containment , this prevents a lot of digging to service and accidental damage by digging for other reasons .

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