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I'm new to buying land so may have a few newbie topics soon to come (note buying in wife's name so lets not get into that debate).

I'm interested in a piece of land which is for sale by a bank. Currently i have the street that it's on and some loose directions (it's across the street from this thing..etc..). I have the size and dimensions of the land.

But the lot is within a larger block of land (probably 5 or 6 lots) next to each other. None of them have any perimeter markers, walls or fences; so right now i just know it's somewhere in the middle of this block of overgrown land. The land in full of 2 meter+ high grass/reeds and putting down perimeter markers without cutting down some of the grass first would be very difficult.

So how do i figure out exactly where the boundary is? Will the chanote have some kind of exact coordinates on it? Would the bank (current owners) be required to send someone out to mark the land...? Or would I have to hire some kind of surveyor to do this; if so should this be done before or after the purchase?

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I do not have answers to your specific questions but should you go ahead with this purchase, and your plot is within a larger area of several plots and where your plot doesn't have direct access to the main road, ensure you get a servitute (tights of way) registered at the land office so you will be able to have access at all time.

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The Chanote title deed registers land that has been properly surveyed using GPS (I think). A chanote-title property will have four cement pegs at its corners, each peg has its own number. On the chanote paper itself the property will be shown in outline with the numbers of the pegs at the corners of the outline drawing.

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The Chanote title deed registers land that has been properly surveyed using GPS (I think). A chanote-title property will have four cement pegs at its corners, each peg has its own number. On the chanote paper itself the property will be shown in outline with the numbers of the pegs at the corners of the outline drawing.

So what would be the next step if the pegs are missing?

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You can ask the land department to do a survey and place the markers. You could ask the bank to pay, but you know how banks are...

Thanks; do you have any idea how much this might cost, or how long it might take? Is it the kind of thing where you have pay them extra under the table to get it done in a timely manner?

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You can ask the land department to do a survey and place the markers. You could ask the bank to pay, but you know how banks are...

Thanks; do you have any idea how much this might cost, or how long it might take? Is it the kind of thing where you have pay them extra under the table to get it done in a timely manner?

It is not expensive Dave, i have never paid more than 4500 baht (Pattaya area), it usually is done within 14 days. It is no big deal.

If your "seller" is truly interested in selling, then he will provide this along with someone to clear the bushes, so , you will be able to walk around the perimiter and see the RED painted pins.

Obviously if there is no visable pins, or if the owner is reluctant to call out the land office to verify......walk away!

I hope i have attached a handy tool for you, simple, no explanation required, let me know if it does not come through!!

LennyW

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If the land has been filled the pegs might be underground. One of our pegs turned up 2m under dirt on a piece of land where they had dredged the river.

On another piece of land a peg mysteriously disappeared - so we have to get one side resurveyed. Apparently if you put up a boundary wall /fence you have tacitly agreed to land minus amount accounted for by missing peg (its not a straight line).

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When we applied for planning permission for house and wall, the guys from the amphur turned up with a long tape, GPS, theodolite (sp?) and a water level (20m of clear tube containing water) although I never saw them use the theodolite or water level.

They re-surveyed and replaced the missing marker pegs (one was 2m out into the mud of the khlong). Total cost zero (included in the planning cost of 3k IIRC).

No complaints, our bit of swamp ended up several metres bigger than we thought :)

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