Sometimes i asking myself if i am the only one, or are there more people like me.

Waiting at a 7/11 girl standing in front of me order a prepaid telephone card, friendly girl behind the counter asked her if she needed a bag

and she said "YES" i almost collapse on the spot.

What is wrong here is this typical Thai and what would happen if from 1st january 2010 no plastic bag would be allowed?

You'll be surprised - remarkably fit in adjusting to new challenges , like I haven't seen any yellow shirts on monday's worn by the "ordinary citizen", now since first time all and on kings birthday everyone has been sporting pink at least around here!

Edited December 9, 200916 yr by Samuian

To answer your question, they would just throw their garbage on the ground - harder to pick up when not in a bag.

You'll be surprised - remarkably fit in adjusting to new challenges , like I haven't seen any yellow shirts on monday's worn by the "ordinary citizen", now since first time all and on kings birthday everyone has been sporting pink!

See a few more problems with running dailey live without plastic bags, than only chang the color of a shirt.

(if saw nobody with a yellow shirt it is actually amazing )

To answer your question, they would just throw their garbage on the ground - harder to pick up when not in a bag.

And how about food in a bag and the foodbags in another bag.

With all kinds of bags different colors and sizes it is quit complicated business .

So your telling me that they do this to help the people responsible for cleaning, i dont think so.

Maybe we need to charge people for a bag same in some European country's.

Maybe we need to charge people for a bag same in some European country's.

With sugestions like that it may betime for you to go to a western country.

Maybe we need to charge people for a bag same in some European country's.

With sugestions like that it may betime for you to go to a western country.

When have sugestion that will benefit the locals and environment you need to move, is the reason you stay here.

I'm absolutely in favour of reducing the plastic throw-aways in this country, but if anyone takes a close look, it's not the general issue of plastic carrier bags that are causing the problem.

It's all the packaging, mulitiple packaging, and the decisions on when to give a big carrier bag, that create the mess.

Cut down on overall packaging, and tell shop assistants not to hand out bags for stupid things like a phone card and a newspaper, and you'll have redued the problem.

To be honest, if they stop issuing bags as a matter of course in Tesco's etc, I'm stuffed! I'll have to buy some to use as bin rubbish bags. So where's the plastic reduction there, then?

When I buy a plastic bag I always ask them to put it in another plastic bag!! Just for the hel_l of it

My favorite meal is Dolphin cooked over rain forest wood ...... When I have take out I like it put in a styrofoam container with a plastic bag to carry it.

You'll be surprised - remarkably fit in adjusting to new challenges , like I haven't seen any yellow shirts on monday's worn by the "ordinary citizen", now since first time all and on kings birthday everyone has been sporting pink at least around here!

Yes, pink seems to be very popular in Chiang Mai too, even saw a Thai in pink.

Not so long ago everything came wrapped in banana or palm leaves. I pretty sure plastic bags are not a Thai invention, any idea who introduced plastics bags in the first place?

maybe not for a phone card, but i take the small bag from 7-11 everytime. i pick up my dog's poop with them as they are perfect pocket size.

To be honest, if they stop issuing bags as a matter of course in Tesco's etc, I'm stuffed! I'll have to buy some to use as bin rubbish bags. So where's the plastic reduction there, then?

Used to line bins with plastic bags, now I don't anymore after a period of adjustment. The big bin outside: I just hose it out after the man empties it. For bins in the house, I use those that have a removable bucket inside which you can take out to wash separately. I don't think it's any less hygienic nor does it take more time than re-lining the bin with new plastic bag each time. In the "transition" period, I'd still line the bins with newspapers but I am over that now once I got used to the idea that it really does not need to be lined with anything! Occasionally, I'd still wrap goo-ey smelly stuff in several layers of old newspapers before chucking it in the big bin outside.

I am not a big bad mad greenie and I am not lecturing anyone that they must do this or that. For myself, I just wanted to see if it is at all possible to minimise use of plastic bags to near zero. And I was surprised how easy it is to do, for me. Maybe I have been brainwashed by documentaries of dead sea creatures ingesting plastic bags accidentally thinking they were jelly fish and of plastic bags being found on very remote uninhabitated isalnds in the middle of the ocean!

Until I think of an alternative, I am still using mini plastic bags to pick up the dog poo

That's the thing with the ban them or charge them thinking. Plastic bags do actually have some bloody good use's...pooh scoopers, tidy bin liners, freezer bags, the little ones still with handles are great car tidy bags...etc. The altenative to the cheap skiny piece of plastic they give you free is less bloody plastic than the official model that you also buy from the plastic makers, and cheaper to.

They now have the 10 cents a bag charge here for the standard large grocery items bag. I have to now pay occasionaly for them not to carry groceries but for kitchen tidy liners. So to play their silly game that they now want to charge me for, I now don't buy large freezer storage bags for fresh packing whole snapper but every piece of fruit of vegetable is placed in a free large snap off the reel plastic bag. I check out weekly with a dozen off them. You then grin when the supermarket says they are cutting down on plastic use .

Back in 2002 Ireland introduced a tax of 15 cents a bag and their usage dropped by over 90%. Until that point 1.2 billion free bags a year were being handed out. This levy also raised a few million Euros into the bargain. It has recently been reported that this tax is going to rise to a whopping 44 cents a bag!! (approx. 20 baht)

Everyone has simply started using their own cloth bags.

Somehow I can't see it happening in Thailand.

Dont u remember the bio degradeable plastic bags from years ago/ WHAT HAPPENED THOSE???

Sam and John were out cutting wood, and John cut his arm off. Sam wrapped the arm in a plastic bag and took it and John to a surgeon.

The surgeon said: "You are in luck! I am an expert at reattaching limbs! Come back in four hours."

So Sam came back in four hours and the surgeon said: "I got done faster than I expected to. John is down at the local pub."

Sam went to the pub and saw John throwing darts.

A few weeks later, Sam and John were out again, and John cut his leg off. Sam put the leg in a plastic bag and took it and John back to the surgeon.

The surgeon said: "Legs are a little tougher - come back in six hours." Sam returned in six hours and the surgeon said: "I finished early - John is down at the soccer field."

Sam went to the soccer field and there was John, kicking goals.

A few weeks later, John had a terrible accident and cut his head off. Sam put the head in a plastic bag and took it and the rest of John to the surgeon.

The surgeon said: "Gee, heads are really tough. Come back in twelve hours."

So Sam returned in twelve hours and the surgeon said, "I am sorry, John died."

Sam said: "I understand - heads are tough." The surgeon said: "Oh, no! The surgery went fine! John suffocated in that plastic bag!"

That's the thing with the ban them or charge them thinking. Plastic bags do actually have some bloody good use's...pooh scoopers, tidy bin liners, freezer bags, the little ones still with handles are great car tidy bags...etc. The altenative to the cheap skiny piece of plastic they give you free is less bloody plastic than the official model that you also buy from the plastic makers, and cheaper to.

They now have the 10 cents a bag charge here for the standard large grocery items bag. I have to now pay occasionaly for them not to carry groceries but for kitchen tidy liners. So to play their silly game that they now want to charge me for, I now don't buy large freezer storage bags for fresh packing whole snapper but every piece of fruit of vegetable is placed in a free large snap off the reel plastic bag. I check out weekly with a dozen off them. You then grin when the supermarket says they are cutting down on plastic use .

Dont u remember the bio degradeable plastic bags from years ago/ WHAT HAPPENED THOSE???

Cancelled them as they didnt sell at all, if people have the choise between a Bio bag for 20 baht each or free plastic bags,i know the answer.

Dont u remember the bio degradeable plastic bags from years ago/ WHAT HAPPENED THOSE???

Cancelled them as they didnt sell at all, if people have the choise between a Bio bag for 20 baht each or free plastic bags,i know the answer.

cant remember them

supermarkets tried start charge for plastic bags in nz recently, but was unpopular so they stopped charging, however, ecobags, or the re useagable ones are popular now days

Neeforspeed said:

Quote: "Waiting at a 7/11 girl standing in front of me order a prepaid telephone card, friendly girl behind the counter asked her if she needed a bag"

For sure you made this story up. I buy phone cards regularly from all over he place and have never been offered a bag.

maybe not for a phone card, but i take the small bag from 7-11 everytime. i pick up my dog's poop with them as they are perfect pocket size.

You put dog crap in your pocket?

Neeforspeed said:

Quote: "Waiting at a 7/11 girl standing in front of me order a prepaid telephone card, friendly girl behind the counter asked her if she needed a bag"

For sure you made this story up. I buy phone cards regularly from all over he place and have never been offered a bag.

No i don't

Maybe the stores could start charging.

My wife always wants a bag (for trash liners). Yet, at the few stores that offer a "no bag discount", she is more than willing to pass up the bag.

Thrift will often trump convenience here!

Unfortunately, the trash will start to pile up outside people's homes. I doubt the savings will be spent on a proper bin.

Nothing will stop the little pigs from indiscriminately dropping trash in public.

Maybe the stores could start charging.

My wife always wants a bag (for trash liners). Yet, at the few stores that offer a "no bag discount", she is more than willing to pass up the bag.

Thrift will often trump convenience here!

Unfortunately, the trash will start to pile up outside people's homes. I doubt the savings will be spent on a proper bin.

Nothing will stop the little pigs from indiscriminately dropping trash in public.

No need to describe the situation like this the most off us have Thai family and friend here i not agree to compair them as in your statement.

Look around !!!!!!!

I am speaking of the little pigs that indiscriminately drop trash at random. Many are doing it wide open!

Are you placing your "Thai family and friends" in this group?

I am speaking of the little pigs that indiscriminately drop trash at random. Many are doing it wide open!

Are you placing your "Thai family and friends" in this group?

NO

they put bags everywhere not because they are pigs, but there are no garbage facilties on the streets.

THANK YOU

I am speaking of the little pigs that indiscriminately drop trash at random. Many are doing it wide open!

Are you placing your "Thai family and friends" in this group?

NO

they put bags everywhere not because they are pigs, but there are no garbage facilties on the streets.

THANK YOU

I was actually attempting to distinguish your friends from the mix. I guess, by your reply, you include them.

Visiting Bangkok since the nineties, and living here since 2007, I have never once tossed trash in the street or on the sidewalk, NEVER. I have either found a facility, nearby, or waited until I did find one. hel_l, the little plastic bags make it so easy to handle!

There is no excuse for tossing litter, absolutely none. If you can't deal with the refuse, don't create it.

Reading the initial post, do you believe that banning plastic bags will solve the trash problem? Or, is the problem that plastic bags are becoming endangered? Maybe we should make a law?

I was actually attempting to distinguish your friends from the mix. I guess, by your reply, you include them.

Visiting Bangkok since the nineties, and living here since 2007, I have never once tossed trash in the street or on the sidewalk, NEVER. I have either found a facility, nearby, or waited until I did find one. hel_l, the little plastic bags make it so easy to handle!

There is no excuse for tossing litter, absolutely none. If you can't deal with the refuse, don't create it.

Reading the initial post, do you believe that banning plastic bags will solve the trash problem? Or, is the problem that plastic bags are becoming endangered? Maybe we should make a law?

Banning plastic bags doesnt solved the trash problem, as people dropping things where ever they using the product. We need to supply Garbage bins around town and supply them free (non Plastic/ re-usable) shopping bags for a period of time purchased and ditribute by goverment.

Advertisement income can be used for garbage bins and commercials on tv even as guards to inforced the new law.

Its just a start, but wouldt be easy