The World Economy As Seen From Thailand

[jazzbo]

For those handful of gents based here in Thailand and possibly elsewhere, who have developed a pathological need to post news on this Forum one or more times daily about the imminent collapse of the World Economy, the US Dollar, the Bank of Thailand, etc., and that if the World Economy does not collapse today, that probably just means that it will collapse tomorrow, I want to let you know that right here in LOS there is help for this recognized disorder.

According to NIMH: "People with generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) go through the day filled with exaggerated worry and tension, even though there is little or nothing to provoke it. They anticipate disaster and are overly concerned about health issues, money, family problems, or difficulties at work. Sometimes just the thought of getting through the day produces anxiety." So the NEWS:

INDIANAPOLIS, Nov. 30, 2009 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved Cymbalta (duloxetine HCl) for the

maintenance treatment

of generalized anxiety disorder (GAD) in adults, Eli Lilly and Company LLY announced today.

"Since generalized anxiety disorder can be a chronic illness, it is important that doctors and their patients find a treatment option that is effective in both the acute and maintenance phase of treatment," said James M. Martinez, MD, U.S. Medical Director for Cymbalta. "With this additional approval, Cymbalta offers a new option for the maintenance treatment of this often-debilitating condition."

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Generalized anxiety disorder affects nearly 7 million Americans at any given time.

While the symptoms of GAD can vary from person to person, they may include

excessive worry or anxiety over a period of six months or longer,

difficulties controlling worry, irritability, poor concentration, sleep disturbances, fatigue, restlessness and muscle tension.(ii) If left untreated, symptoms may get progressively worse.(iii) Additionally, GAD can have a negative impact on a person's ability to function well in work, family and social situations.(iv)

... And since Eli Lilly's Cialis is widely available non-copy here in Thailand, you shouldn't have any problem getting Cymbalta. Just remember to tell your pharmacist that you suffer from GAD... They can look up ICD-10 F41.1 / ICD-9 300.02 in the PDR. And in Thailand it seems that Pichet Udomratn, M.D., Department of Psychiatry, Faculty of Medicine, Prince of Songkla University, Hat Yai, Songkhla 90110, is one of the lead researchers in anxiety disorders ... Note that as regards the 6 month diagnostic requirement the Financial Crisis thread herein is approaching 11 months. So just remember, when you wake up in the morning and you get all upset because the World DID NOT collapse overnight, there is help.

[pkrv]

But the world will end tomorrow! or was that yesterday? I forget, pretty sure I will remember a week on Thursday.

[jazzbo]

... Another (unofficial) symptom of such GAD behavior is to place, with great public bravado, persons who might disagree with them or question that quotations or excerpts supporting such a cataclysmic outlook on economic and other states of worldly affairs are taken out of context, on their IGNORE list.

BTW my unofficial definition of paranoid schizophrenic is a person who believes that other persons are following them; and if they turn around and there is no one there, it is because they are hiding very well today.

[endure]

[sokal]

The economy did collapse you fool, didn't you notice ?

I guess if you have no assets or wealth then you have nothing to lose.

[jazzbo]

The economy did collapse you fool (wink emoticon)

... I rest my case. I guess another unofficial symptom is the inability to deliver an insult in a cohesive English-language sentence without the use of an emoticon... and my substantial assets are in a well-diversified professionally-managed portfolio as a hedge against gyrations in markets and the world macro economies.

[teletiger]

While you're about it Jazzbo, why don't you give out a plug for your Athazagoraphobia specialist.

Sympathetic regards.

[flying]

While you're about it Jazzbo, why don't you give out a plug for your Athazagoraphobia specialist.

Sympathetic regards.

Have no ideas about the topic for the obvious reason.....I cant see it

But out of sympathy for the OP

http://www.phobia-fear-release.com/athazagoraphobia.html

There is a Way Out

Imagine what your life will be like when you know that you are not "defective". When you can be confident and at ease in situations where you used to feel your athazagoraphobia. And when you can talk about your former athazagoraphobia symptoms as though you are describing a movie where the character is someone else, not you.

Man movie reference fits to a T & should work out fine for the patient

[jazzbo]

Have no ideas about the topic for the obvious reason.....I cant see it

Having no ideas about this or any other topic has never prevented you from otherwise commenting before .. ain't that ignore masking function great?... they sure seem to come out of the woodwork.

[jazzbo]

While you're about it Jazzbo, why don't you give out a plug for your Athazagoraphobia specialis... Sympathetic regards.

Another of this same Member's pithy replies on another Topic on this Forum:

By the way, when wearing your underpants on the outside, be sure there are no untoward “marks” on show. rolleyes.gif

BTW2 Athazagoraphobia is not a ICD classified illness...

[wintermute]

This is probably the funniest thing i've seen on Thaivisa in a long time.

[sokal]

The economy did collapse you fool (wink emoticon)

... I rest my case. I guess another unofficial symptom is the inability to deliver an insult in a cohesive English-language sentence without the use of an emoticon... and my substantial assets are in a well-diversified professionally-managed portfolio as a hedge against gyrations in markets and the world macro economies.

Your substantial assets, yeah yeah. Sounds like you are some typical working class middle aged fool with a whopping $5000 in some rope-a-dope pension account.

[jazzbo]

Yes..Kuhn W. -- and after

Financial Crisis

5,065 replies

Is The Us$ Destined To Collapse?

422 replies

Where Is Gold Going In This Market

1583 replies

etc.

Henny Penny's neck is probably getting sore.

... The rope-a-dope pension account aforementioned actually is referred to as a Wealth Management account at an international investment bank who has their own share of widely quoted bears.

[sokal]

Yes..Kuhn W. -- and after

Financial Crisis

5,065 replies

Is The Us$ Destined To Collapse?

422 replies

Where Is Gold Going In This Market

1583 replies

etc.

Henny Penny's neck is probably getting sore.

... The rope-a-dope pension account aforementioned actually is referred to as a Wealth Management account at an international investment bank who has their own share of widely quoted bears.

Are you one of those people that thought on the seventh day God created the US dollar ?

If the internet was around before the British Pound lost reserve currency status do you think maybe it would have been discussed also ?

[delmersomsri]

Thanks fellows. I was getting bored.

[jazzbo]

on the seventh day God created the US dollar ?

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

even a heathen like myself knows that one... but it's OK... It's one thing to be a bearish gold bug... it's something else to be a mean-spirited bearish gold bug which is what the gang who have co-opted several of the Forum topics here for their cultural, not economic agenda, have shown themselves to be to the 300+ views which this topic has received in the last 24 or so hours... far more than look at the usual topic posts.

and BTW the Global Markets In Turmoil After Debt Bombshell were not in turmoil or world markets having already collapsed (you fool) as of last night when I went to the ATM machine and it still worked; and even though I have advised them that they are only really worthless FIAT baht backed by nothing but thin air and produced on an insane printing press, the TGF didn't care as long as she can still use it to buy make-up at BigC.

[Naam]

The economy did collapse you fool (wink emoticon)

... I rest my case. I guess another unofficial symptom is the inability to deliver an insult in a cohesive English-language sentence without the use of an emoticon... and my substantial assets are in a well-diversified professionally-managed portfolio as a hedge against gyrations in markets and the world macro economies.

Your substantial assets, yeah yeah. Sounds like you are some typical working class middle aged fool with a whopping $5000 in some rope-a-dope pension account.

some poor boys who yearn to own the pittance of 750k dollars have a big mouth:

quote: "Are you insane ? I would never look for a job if I had that cash."

thread: "If You Had 25m Baht..."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/25m-Baht-Inv...58#entry3096258

[jazzbo]

Give them a break Kuhn N... it's tough fighting the Holy War:

Gold Owners Are Targets of the Government

by Gary North

If you own gold, you are in a war. You are under assault. You had better figure this out early.

There is a full-scale war against you. The politicians and central bankers who are conducting

this war against you are determined to see that you lose money on your investment.

Besides, since God wants you to be rich, if you are not rich, then you must not be one of the Favored Ones in the eyes of God.

[pkrv]

Give them a break Kuhn N... it's tough fighting the Holy War:

Gold Owners Are Targets of the Government

by Gary North

If you own gold, you are in a war. You are under assault. You had better figure this out early.

There is a full-scale war against you. The politicians and central bankers who are conducting

this war against you are determined to see that you lose money on your investment.

Besides, since God wants you to be rich, if you are not rich, then you must not be one of the Favored Ones in the eyes of God.

Ohhh dear now I have to disagree with you. The fully authorised and independently scrutinised religious text actually reads "Only a rich man may pass through the eye of a needle to reach the kingdom of heaven, poor people cannot pass though such a small artificially created Orifice"

The Authenticity of this religious text has been Passed by - Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al-Maktoum

Edited December 14, 2009 by pkrv

[sokal]

on the seventh day God created the US dollar ?

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

even a heathen like myself knows that one... but it's OK... It's one thing to be a bearish gold bug... it's something else to be a mean-spirited bearish gold bug which is what the gang who have co-opted several of the Forum topics here for their cultural, not economic agenda, have shown themselves to be to the 300+ views which this topic has received in the last 24 or so hours... far more than look at the usual topic posts.

and BTW the Global Markets In Turmoil After Debt Bombshell were not in turmoil or world markets having already collapsed (you fool) as of last night when I went to the ATM machine and it still worked; and even though I have advised them that they are only really worthless FIAT baht backed by nothing but thin air and produced on an insane printing press, the TGF didn't care as long as she can still use it to buy make-up at BigC.

Well things do work until they stop working.

We cover allot of ground here on the investment section of the forum and if its all too much for you and completely over you and your TGFs head then just don't bother coming to this section. Don't lash out in frustration by starting pointless threads about how the ATMs are still sh*tting money.

[jazzbo]

if its all too much for you and completely over your ... head then just don't bother coming to this section... Don't lash out in frustration by starting pointless threads Obviously, the point of this thread has escaped you... YOU just OUTED yourself... Just who the <deleted>> are you to decide who should and who should not participate in this or any other Forum as long as the Mods do not object? Of what is or is not completely over my head you have no idea... and as per one of your compatriots suggested a while back to me:

Now why don't you go watch a movie or check threads for possible hall monitoring/mod alerts eh?

Do you know what is a sucker punch?

[bartender100]

Sorry my Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis is playing up

[sokal]

if its all too much for you and completely over your ... head then just don't bother coming to this section... Don't lash out in frustration by starting pointless threads Obviously, the point of this thread has escaped you... YOU just OUTED yourself... Just who the <deleted>> are you to decide who should and who should not participate in this or any other Forum as long as the Mods do not object? Of what is or is not completely over my head you have no idea... and as per one of your compatriots suggested a while back to me:

Now why don't you go watch a movie or check threads for possible hall monitoring/mod alerts eh?

Do you know what is a sucker punch?

I was just suggesting that you could do yourself a favor and quit reading on the investment thread( gold in particular) if it confuses you, just a suggestion. Your acting out like Mike Tyson in a spelling bee.

[Naam]

The economy did collapse you fool, didn't you notice ? I guess if you have no assets or wealth then you have nothing to lose.

i wonder what the assets of somebody are who sleeps in 200 Baht rooms, calls others fools and can guess the assets of others

poster sokal Yesterday, 2009-12-14 00:38:57

Check this gem out that I found in BKK. No blankets and no switch on the fan, you had to plug er in every time, 555. Still cost me 200 a night.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Worst-Room-S...89#entry3200789

attention moderators!

shouldn't there be an addition to the forum rules that persons with an IQ below 78.2 are not allowed to post?

Edited December 15, 2009 by Naam

[jazzbo]

QUOTE (jazzbo @ 2009-10-18 02:44:29)

What the US dollar represents is not some underlying commodity, metal, or the cotton & linen on which it is printed: It represents "The full faith and credit" of the USA defined as "An unconditional commitment to pay interest and principal on debt, usually issued or guaranteed by the U.S. Treasury or another government entity." (InvestorWords.com)

With most, but certainly not all, rational investors and bankers around the world that sounds pretty good. For the rest, they can sit on and play with their gold and all sing in unison: "It's The End Of The World As We Know It, And I Feel Fine"

To which the erudite Kuhn S. replied

Why do I need to do this.....It is not the end of the world for the people that have the gold, Its only the end of the world for people without gold.

Go buy a bunch of US debt then. Put your money where your big mouth is. Are you even aware that a country can devalue its debt through inflation by creating more dollars. So the day you loan the US your money, by the time you get it back, it can only buy half as much gas bread or gold that it did when you lent it to them. That is default in itself but there is a sucker like you born every day but they are slowly running out.

Nice. In the recent NY Times obituary for the Nobel Prize winning-economist Paul Samuelson -- who is credited with introducing the USA to the ideas of JM Keynes -- it was mentioned that Dr. Samuelson and the Nobel Prize-winning economist Dr. Milton Friedman disagreed on almost every point of economics but were good friends for over 50 years. I doubt that Dr. Samuelson ever referred to Dr. Friedman or v.v. as a big-mouthed SUCKER.

[sokal]

QUOTE (jazzbo @ 2009-10-18 02:44:29)

What the US dollar represents is not some underlying commodity, metal, or the cotton & linen on which it is printed: It represents "The full faith and credit" of the USA defined as "An unconditional commitment to pay interest and principal on debt, usually issued or guaranteed by the U.S. Treasury or another government entity." (InvestorWords.com)

With most, but certainly not all, rational investors and bankers around the world that sounds pretty good. For the rest, they can sit on and play with their gold and all sing in unison: "It's The End Of The World As We Know It, And I Feel Fine"

To which the erudite Kuhn S. replied

Why do I need to do this.....It is not the end of the world for the people that have the gold, Its only the end of the world for people without gold.

Go buy a bunch of US debt then. Put your money where your big mouth is. Are you even aware that a country can devalue its debt through inflation by creating more dollars. So the day you loan the US your money, by the time you get it back, it can only buy half as much gas bread or gold that it did when you lent it to them. That is default in itself but there is a sucker like you born every day but they are slowly running out.

Nice. In the recent NY Times obituary for the Nobel Prize winning-economist Paul Samuelson -- who is credited with introducing the USA to the ideas of JM Keynes -- it was mentioned that Dr. Samuelson and the Nobel Prize-winning economist Dr. Milton Friedman disagreed on almost every point of economics but were good friends for over 50 years. I doubt that Dr. Samuelson ever referred to Dr. Friedman or v.v. as a big-mouthed SUCKER.

At the start of this thread you are mocking everyone that has been talking of collapse and economic turmoil arguing that you think people are making a big deal out of nothing. You can't make that argument. This is a big deal.

[jazzbo]

The only argument in which I have been interested is one of civility... people can implicitly tell whether one has it or doesn't. As for the other how about from the acknowledged Dr. Doom:

DR. NOURIEL ROUBINI (NYU, Stern School of Business): The good news is we do have a recovery; there will be positive growth.

The bad news is that it’s not going to be a rapid return to high economic growth.

[Samuian]

The economy did collapse you fool, didn't you notice ?

I guess if you have no assets or wealth then you have nothing to lose.

I'll answer that one with a lesson many will still have to learn, one day or the other,

many years ago, one of my favorite songs sung by the late Janis:

"Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose!"......

have fun with your "securities", loads of it, in the mean time I enjoy life to it's fullest, every breath that I take, you're every step I make...!

Of course does everyone, every society according to it's conditioning have it's very specific view and "understanding" of things and events...ask a bushman, a tribesman from PG, from Waziristhan, a Tibetan from the Transhimalayan Plateau, an Aborigine living in the vastness of the Australian continent, a Chinese Nomad traversing the Gobi... how they reacted to the last stock market or "world wide financial melt down", waht did happen to their investment!?

One might be in for a surprise, how limited the "world" is, one thinks of his "world", it's in most cases only a projection of years, or generations, of conditioning, through the very society one lives and is trained to believe in, thus the picture one may have, is limited, to the very data the individual has received or allowed to be stored, a bit more alive then an HD on his PC!....

Edited December 15, 2009 by Samuian

[sokal]

The economy did collapse you fool, didn't you notice ?

I guess if you have no assets or wealth then you have nothing to lose.

I'll answer that one with a lesson many will still have to learn, one day or the other,

many years ago, one of my favorite songs sung by the late Janis:

"Freedom is another word for nothing left to lose!"......

have fun with your "securities", loads of it, in the mean time I enjoy life to it's fullest, every breath that I take, you're every step I make...!

Of course does everyone, every society according to it's conditioning have it's very specific view and "understanding" of things and events...ask a bushman, a tribesman from PG, from Waziristhan, a Tibetan from the Transhimalayan Plateau, an Aborigine living in the vastness of the Australian continent, a Chinese Nomad traversing the Gobi... how they reacted to the last stock market or "world wide financial melt down", waht did happen to their investment!?

One might be in for a surprise, how limited the "world" is, one thinks of his "world", it's in most cases only a projection of years, or generations, of conditioning, through the very society one lives and is trained to believe in, thus the picture one may have, is limited, to the very data the individual has received or allowed to be stored, a bit more alive then an HD on his PC!....

Being financially free does require some investment unless you want to be a cave man.

[jazzbo]

As to why one of the other enlightened Gents herein placed me on ignore:

I place him on ignore because I think he is a moron with nothing to contribute to the thread.

My reply: Thank you. From you, Kuhn A., I consider that a great compliment as you realize your insipid observations on the macro-economy would hold up nowhere else except on this and a few other forum topics... Again, I am used to the agree-with-me-or-burn-in-hel_l school of discourse and, for the time being, I will just allow you and the boys to jerk each other off with your charts and whatever while you wait and root for the $US to go to zero...

Mea Culpa on my lapse of civility.