William Osborne Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 Just wondering which is better when i do my morning fry-ups ? Normally use Olive oil but the Mrs reckons Canola oil is healther and should keep the kilos down ? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnut Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) A fry up is not a fry up unless it is fried in butter :D A good quality first pressed olive oil will be better than most other oils. I really think it will not matter nor make a difference for you. Unless of course you do use butter. Olive Oil: Contains many mono-unsaturated fatty acids. It is good for pan frying but not good for deep frying. It will break-down and become rancid. Canola Oil: Made from genetically engineered rapeseed and used extensively in restaurants. Registered with the EPA as an insecticide. There is much controversy surrounding this oil. From all the research I've read related to this oil, I avoid it like the plague. Edited December 21, 2009 by onnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumball Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 If you want to keep the kilos down , stop the morning fry-ups , you can cook practically anything in a microwave without the oils and fats , or use a grill if you have one . The problem with frying with olive oil is , when you overheat it , it downgrades and loses its benificial properties , most people that fry food tend to have the medium too high any way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babuhavas Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 olive oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnut Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I see what you are tryng to say bit there is no way that you can cook a fry up in a microwave. Sure, I supose you can cook a sausage and rasher of bacon in a microwave but it's hardly going to look or tast good. Personaly, I do not rate microwaves for cooking anything, heating or re-heating is fine but cooking! No way. Feel free to argue that if you like. If you want to keep the kilos down , stop the morning fry-ups , you can cook practically anything in a microwave without the oils and fats , or use a grill if you have one . The problem with frying with olive oil is , when you overheat it , it downgrades and loses its benificial properties , most people that fry food tend to have the medium too high any way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraSnakeNecktie Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 even better than Olive oil is cold pressed/processed coconut oil. More stable under heat. Even tastes really good also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanlayanee Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 virgin coconut oil (VCO) is the only oil to cook with from what I gather olive oil is not stable at high heat like coconut oil also 50% of oilve oil is not oilve oil from what I understand they say 100% but legally only 50% must be oilve oil i get mine from samui place called thaiorganilife.com I found on this web site in fact in classified section the other oil u mentioned is only good for engines and such in my book not the human body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignoramus Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Gotta love those who know not whereof they speak. After - expensive in Sydney - rice bran oil (the highest smoke point of all oils), olive oil is by far the best. Trouble is, as with any frying, one needs to discard the oil after each fry, sorry to say. Coconut oil is saturated. Might taste good, but is not healthy. Frying, though providing flavour, ain't the way to go at anytime. Can't believe this is a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 If you're the sort who goes in for fry ups, the breakfast isn't significant in the larger scheme. You're overweight & out of shape and won't be around long anyway, so might as well enjoy the time you have left. You'd have to change your total lifestyle to make any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryofthailand Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 We use Canola Oil. Very good. don't believe all the garbage you read. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Olive oil and canola oil are both monunsaturated fats and thus help to increase HDL (the "good" cholesterol). As several posters mentioned though olive oil does not fry well. Personally I use olive oil for salad dressing & anything else where I don't cook the oil, and also for slow sauting of Italian dishes and the like, but canola for serious frying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 If you're the sort who goes in for fry ups, the breakfast isn't significant in the larger scheme. You're overweight & out of shape and won't be around long anyway, so might as well enjoy the time you have left. You'd have to change your total lifestyle to make any difference. There are an aweful lot of ways to die. you shouldn't be complacent, or, preach. Life has a sick sense of humour. I bet the fry-up king will out live you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siggie2 Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 canola oil is great for indian curries and good for stir fry.If you listened to the experts we would all be living on lettuce and brown bread,and maybe one day these experts will say they cause cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Life has a sick sense of humour. I bet the fry-up king will out live you. May he do so, but then the stronger the case that he should just use butter and enjoy himself as I had advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptuan Posted December 25, 2009 Share Posted December 25, 2009 Neither. Rice bran cooking oil from Big C. Much less expensive than olive oil. About 90 baht per liter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notime Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I've read that although coconut oil is saturated it has short molecule structure that makes it act differently than animal derrived saturated oils. It is the only saturated oil that come from plants. Because of these diferences it supposed to actually lower your cholesterol and to be very healthy. It is also untiseptic. I've tried coconut oil as a skin lotion and it worked great for me. My skin cleared from some red spots which I thought was partly infections, partly egzma. I used it also as a lubricant and noticed that it had dramatic effect on re-occurent redness over my private parts that was at times making me over-sensitive. I would not be surprised it the oil was to be also very beneficial when consumed. It apparently is also very good for hair and some declare it another health miracle product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnut Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) I like a fry up every now and then, normally only once or twice a month. I prefer it cooked butter for the taste. I am no way a fry up king although I know plenty about them. I cook plenty of em as I am a chef! Don't know why some posters have to be so rude, you could get hit by a bus tomorrow, so try to get out a little and enjoy life. Not everyone is fat and unhealthy. If you're the sort who goes in for fry ups, the breakfast isn't significant in the larger scheme. You're overweight & out of shape and won't be around long anyway, so might as well enjoy the time you have left. You'd have to change your total lifestyle to make any difference. There are an aweful lot of ways to die. you shouldn't be complacent, or, preach. Life has a sick sense of humour. I bet the fry-up king will out live you. By the way, my post was directed at jsixpack!!!! Who probably has a barrel under his jumper. Can be whoever you like on the net eh? Edited December 27, 2009 by onnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurPewty Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Just a little reading will inform you that the new healthy kid on the block is rica bran oil. Much cheaper than imported olive oil and lower in the not so good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korkenzieher Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) Just a little reading will inform you... Totally endorse this. What you should read: Why it is called 'Canola', and the implications of that. What the FDA really said about poly-unsaturated oils and the guidance about not heating them (which always gets ignored). The effects of Linoleic acid on the immune system, and its percentages in edible oils; its use in transplant surgery and complications therein. Note, this is not the same as Gamma-Linoleic acid, or Conjugated Linoleic acid. The effect of poly-unsaturate consumption on the cell walls of mammals. No need to step outside of Wikipedia if learned journals are too technical. It is all there. I use palm oil for cooking, and only palm oil. I would prefer Dura palm over Tenera, but that is harder to get here. Read up on Palm oil while you're at it. I also use olive oil, and cold pressed nut oils for salads, flavour etc. And after that, go take a look into Nutrasweet! Edited December 27, 2009 by korkenzieher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billp Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 (edited) Canola was derived from rapeseed in the 1970s in Canada (through selective breeding not genetic engineering) as an edible oil with a lower level of erucic acid, and without the distinctive flavour and greenish colour of rapeseed. The name "canola" comes from "Canadian oil, low acid" to distinuish it from rapeseed and without the negative connotations of the word "rape." It has since become one of North Americas biggest cash crops. Those vast fields of beautiful yellow flowers in Canada, The States, and increasingly in Europe, are canola. The oil is known for its low saturated fat content, high amount of monounsaturated fats, and beneficial amount of omega 3 and is widely considered to be among the most "heart healthy" oils available. There are some particularly witless urban legends concerning canola which are spread by the ignorant, the gullible and the easily-deceived in email hoaxes. Edited December 27, 2009 by billp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitalGirl Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Rice bran oil has the highest stability level under heat, by far. Olive oil simply wasted for frying and often already partly rancid in Thailand due to it being unstable if stored over 30C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timber Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 There is an interesting article rating cooking oils by family nutrition at http://www.askdrsears.com/html/4/t043800.asp#T043816[/size][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 The problem with most oils is the rancid factor, canola, cottonseed oil, peanut oil, olive oil. and one or two more. Coconut oil is very good for high temp. cooking as well as palm it takes very high temp. for them to go bad. Olive oil for salads and as a condiment. Do a bit of reading the body neds good fats to process certain functions. A low fat diet will not facilitate the discharge of bile and all of the nasty things it carries out of the liver and gall bladder if it doesn't discharge into the gut it will recirculate into the liver redepositing heavy metals,pesticides, and herbicides. Eat your fats but not the crap that goes rancid very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korkenzieher Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 There are some particularly witless urban legends concerning canola which are spread by the ignorant, the gullible and the easily-deceived in email hoaxes. Which is why it is important to read authoritative sources, if you can cope with the jargon. Erucic acid is a neuro-toxin, and prior to the discovery of low-temperature processing of animal protein remains in cattle feed, was felt by many to be the likely cause of BSE in the UK and downer-cow syndrome in the US - rape pulp is routinely fed to cattle. It doesn't need to be sprayed as a crop, because the erucic acid acts as an effective insecticide in the living crop. Newer cultivars may be less resistant - no info on that. It may lead to lower trace pesticide yield, but that is a trade-off for the trace nickel and remaining acid. On the other hand, it is at 21% relatively low in linoleic acid, which is a plus point. No urban myths needed. Just basic research. People simply need to spend more time looking into what their diet actually does for them, instead of reading garbage (pro and anti) promulgated by one lobby (industrial) or another. Informed choice! My own favourite, palm oil, generally comes in for criticism because of the perceived expansion of acreage at the expense of rain forest in Malaysian and Indonesian plantations for use as a biofuel (I would prefer red (dura) palm if I could get it - Azeite de Dende in Brazil). Palm plantations are more biomass / area than rainforest, though without doubt bio-diversity takes a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbin Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) Olive oil and canola oil are both monunsaturated fats and thus help to increase HDL (the "good" cholesterol).There is no such thing as "good cholesterol" or "bad cholesterol". Cholesterol is produced naturally by your liver. If intake of cholesterol is high or low your body automatically balances out the imbalance. The only sure way to reduce high cholesterol levels is with medication. Source of information is http://www.second_opinions.co.uk/cholesterol_myth_1.html for one. Edited December 29, 2009 by sinbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenallday Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 A fry up is not a fry up unless it is fried in butter A good quality first pressed olive oil will be better than most other oils. I really think it will not matter nor make a difference for you. Unless of course you do use butter. Olive Oil: Contains many mono-unsaturated fatty acids. It is good for pan frying but not good for deep frying. It will break-down and become rancid. Canola Oil: Made from genetically engineered rapeseed and used extensively in restaurants. Registered with the EPA as an insecticide. There is much controversy surrounding this oil. From all the research I've read related to this oil, I avoid it like the plague. Your boyfriend told me you prefer Canola oil so which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Sinbin, you need to do more reserch. Even though ldl cholestrol is listed as bad there there are some forms of it that are good. The notion of cholestrol being bad for you comes from the fact that it is only doing it's job of trying to repair damage in arteries that have been damaged by inflamation. Cholestrol is the precursor for all sex hormones if your cholestrol becomes to low you can have high blood pressure, loss of mental function,reduced sexual function this is just a few of the side affects of low cholestrol. most people have an enzeme that turns off the production of cholestrol if one obtains to much from outside sources but the small percentage of people who donot need help from medication or those natural sources that will lower cholestrol. The liver is not the only organ that produces cholestrol, it is also produced in the gut as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurPewty Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Just a little reading will inform you... Totally endorse this. What you should read: Why it is called 'Canola', and the implications of that. What the FDA really said about poly-unsaturated oils and the guidance about not heating them (which always gets ignored). The effects of Linoleic acid on the immune system, and its percentages in edible oils; its use in transplant surgery and complications therein. Note, this is not the same as Gamma-Linoleic acid, or Conjugated Linoleic acid. The effect of poly-unsaturate consumption on the cell walls of mammals. No need to step outside of Wikipedia if learned journals are too technical. It is all there. I use palm oil for cooking, and only palm oil. I would prefer Dura palm over Tenera, but that is harder to get here. Read up on Palm oil while you're at it. I also use olive oil, and cold pressed nut oils for salads, flavour etc. And after that, go take a look into Nutrasweet! Palm oils is only a step above lard, which is the worst of the worst. Malaysian food is full of the stuff, tastes bad and turns rancid very quickly. Awful stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigabyte Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 How about safflower oil? That's what I always use for cooking and the very little deep frying I do. It seems to have some beneficial effects and can take high temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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