Do Thai Women Play Footsie?

[chiangmaikelly]

A few years back my boss in Canada invited me to dinner to discuss business. He was a real estate developer who owned a large group of hotels. I managed one of his properties. He was in his 70's, still in good shape and rich. As is common he had a trophy wife much younger than he.

When we met we shook hands. He normally but his wife curled her fingers in my palm and made a grasping motion. That was my first clue. During dinner she took off one shoe under the table and rubbed my ankle with her toes. Of course it may have been an accident. I slipped off my shoe and she found my foot and made sure I knew it was not an accident.

A few days ago at a business dinner one of my Thai co workers did kind of the same thing with her foot under the table.

Knowing the Thai thing about feet I didn't respond . But I have been wondering if I made a mistake.

Has anyone had any experience with under the table phenomenon in Thailand?

[bkkjames]

I think she was just trying to nick your shoes - or had an itchy toe.

[pampal]

Maybe she was being bitten by mosquitoes and needed to scratch

[sanook2me]

Has anyone had any experience with under the table phenomenon in Thailand?

Yup, at the Star of Light in Papong

[chiangmaikelly]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

[joker1973]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

I think you need to wake up. Try to realise the difference between your wishful thinking and reality

[NADTATIDA1]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

The answer to your question is no,is that reasonable for you?

be it boring also!

[IanForbes]

There is no way of knowing without being there. However, if my experiences over the past 50 years with women has any credibility, any woman from any country who is interested in a man will have various methods of showing her interest. If one plan doesn't work then she'll try another. It can be as subtle as a quick glance of the eyes up to and including a big slobbering kiss on the lips. Playing footsie with the rich dudes wife was only one example. Thai woman are just a diverse as women in any other country. And, how and where they were raised is as important a factor as any.

[Hawk]

The only "footsie" I know of is a woman doing a swift kick to the one's head.

[Meridian007]

My girlfriend likes to lightly kick me under the table, does this count? It's just her being playful, nothing positive or negative is meant by it. (I think. Or maybe my jokes really are that bad! )

[hughben]

I go with IanForbes on this one.

They were showing an interest.

The next move was/is yours.

[Bakeman]

Whether they do or not is definitely not the question here. A greater question should be whether or not a friend should trust you with their wife, trophy or no trophy?

[chiangmaikelly]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

I think you need to wake up. Try to realise the difference between your wishful thinking and reality

 

I also realize there are very few differences between Western women and Thai women and most of the differences pointed out on Thai Visa are examples of the males inexperience with women of any nationality.

It is easy when an inexperienced person is confronted with a question to resort to barroom humor to deflect his ignorance and try to identify the person asking the question with the same level of ignorance as his own.

However in this instance I have asked a simple question. It is fact that Western women use under the table foot signals to transmit messages when the eyes or a nod of the head might be observed by other people.

This happened to me frequently in the West but it has never happened in Thailand. I am wondering if it is my stereotyping of Thai women as not using feet because of cultural norms or perhaps Thai women do use feet in contradiction of cultural norms to send messages.

I remember when exiting a crowded tuk tuk years ago and lifting my leg over a Thai woman's head she went nuts at my behavior. Ever since then I have carefully watched where I put my feet, including using them to point or otherwise message things that would be normal in other countries but taboo in Thailand.

[chiangmaikelly]

Whether they do or not is definitely not the question here. A greater question should be whether or not a friend should trust you with their wife?

No that is not the question. You can start a thread about trusting your wife. I could care less about trusting you with anyones wife. Since this is my thread the question is about feet and not trust.

[ozzieovaseas]

I think you need to wake up. Try to realise the difference between your wishful thinking and reality

I second that

Unless the old guy told the girl that you were his OLDer RICHer business partner, i think you may have had a little to much prik in your phed prik ghai

[jayjayjayjay]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

False..........

[jayjayjayjay]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

I think you need to wake up. Try to realise the difference between your wishful thinking and reality

"I realize most Western men in Thailand are relationship handicapped. They have had few or no meaningful relationships with another person leading to intimacy and use Thailand as a crutch for pseudo relationships between drinking bouts while watching football. "

~ snip ~

and you happen to be the exception!!! and this sort of thing doesn't happen in the west, RIGHT!

[rixalex]

Since this is my thread the question is about feet and not trust.

Starting a thread doesn't mean you own it.

Relax a little.

[samuibeachcomber]

maybe it was just a mistake on her part but the eyes should tell the story.you are right,usually pointing or touchng with the feet would be rude in thai culture,but in this instance if she is playing with you or toying with you she would not have a problem with doing this as you are a westerner and not a thai plus through her marriage she would have become used to western ways to attract the opposite sex or to play mischief.Of course as others have said,it could all be in your imagination.Pursue at your own peril.

[carmine]

I go with IanForbes on this one.

They were showing an interest.

The next move was/is yours.

The interest being shown was in nicking his shoes

[calibanjr.]

Is this thread an audition for some retro comedy club in the Catskills? I asked a reasonable question. How about a reasonable answer! The foot is used to send discreet messages in the West. I don't think it is in Thailand. True or False? And PLEASE leave out any references to people or clubs involved in prostitution. That is not a part of this question.

I think you need to wake up. Try to realise the difference between your wishful thinking and reality

I realize most Western men in Thailand are relationship handicapped. They have had few or no meaningful relationships with another person leading to intimacy and use Thailand as a crutch for pseudo relationships between drinking bouts while watching football.

I also realize there are very few differences between Western women and Thai women and most of the differences pointed out on Thai Visa are examples of the males inexperience with women of any nationality.

It is easy when an inexperienced person is confronted with a question to resort to barroom humor to deflect his ignorance and try to identify the person asking the question with the same level of ignorance as his own.

However in this instance I have asked a simple question. It is fact that Western women use under the table foot signals to transmit messages when the eyes or a nod of the head might be observed by other people.

This happened to me frequently in the West but it has never happened in Thailand. I am wondering if it is my stereotyping of Thai women as not using feet because of cultural norms or perhaps Thai women do use feet in contradiction of cultural norms to send messages.

I remember when exiting a crowded tuk tuk years ago and lifting my leg over a Thai woman's head she went nuts at my behavior. Ever since then I have carefully watched where I put my feet, including using them to point or otherwise message things that would be normal in other countries but taboo in Thailand.

I guess that's the way things go on boards. You pose a legit question, especially given the whole "be careful of what you do with your feet" which is almost deemed as important about "mum's the word regarding the royals" . You get some third-rate joking. Ask for some forbearance due to your candor, and get more "you're full of it" type of responses. I'm actually interested in any legit responses you might get. I'd ask my wife (Thai), but she'd start trying to figure out which of her or my friends I'd be referring to, even though I referred her to your post. I'm 43 now, but earlier in my out and about life, footsie was quite often the initial telegraph signal to later communication. Never happened to me with "the wife of the boss" or the like, but it did happen. Never has happened to me here, but if it did, I might have posted as you did.

[bonobo]

I am no Don Juan or lothario, but I have had a modicum of experience with Thai women, and no, I have never had even one play footsie.  However, as they were in another country, it is possible that they adopted what they view to be western signaling habits.

[chiangmaikelly]

Maybe I did not make it clear but in the first instance it did not happen to me in Thailand it happened in Canada.

It did happen a few nights ago in Thailand but I did not respond because I thought she must have bumped my foot unintentionally because of the foot thing here.

I have another meeting with the same group next Thursday. I want to be prepared if it happens again. But it is difficult for me to believe because all my experience tells me that this is definitely not a Thai thing. None of these women has ever traveled outside of Thailand.

[rixalex]

I guess that's the way things go on boards. You pose a legit question, especially given the whole "be careful of what you do with your feet" which is almost deemed as important about "mum's the word regarding the royals" . You get some third-rate joking.

I agree. The question posed is an interesting one. But getting upset because people are taking a light-hearted approach to responding is daft. This is not a life or death issue. We're not talking about cancer here - we're talking about footsies.

When you start a thread on a public forum like this you have to be prepared to accept a broad spectrum of comments. And demanding people only respond in the fashion that satisfies you won't get you very far. You either live with that or you don't start threads.

[salty]

I would have given her a yellow card for tackling without the ball.

[Maejo Man]

It did happen a few nights ago in Thailand but I did not respond because I thought she must have bumped my foot unintentionally because of the foot thing here.

Unless it was a table designed for kids, I would venture to say that it was a completely intended gesture. I have experienced this on a couple of occasions, and both times it has been from ladies of high social standing. One followed it up with a "knowing" smile, and the other was busy trying to look at the ceiling. On both occasions I did not reciprocate. The ball's in your court as to how you react.

[carmine]

I guess that's the way things go on boards. You pose a legit question, especially given the whole "be careful of what you do with your feet" which is almost deemed as important about "mum's the word regarding the royals" . You get some third-rate joking.

I agree. The question posed is an interesting one. But getting upset because people are taking a light-hearted approach to responding is daft. This is not a life or death issue. We're not talking about cancer here - we're talking about footsies.

When you start a thread on a public forum like this you have to be prepared to accept a broad spectrum of comments. And demanding people only respond in the fashion that satisfies you won't get you very far. You either live with that or you don't start threads.

rixalex, are you putting your goodself forward as a moderator What you say is sound though. I don't have a problem with this thread, but i find it hard to be anything other than light hearted about a topic on footsie, thats all. I hope though the OP gets the info he's looking for.

[edwinchester]

One of wifeys friends(Thai) always plays footsie, if she's close enough, when we go out for a meal. Seems just a bit of fun on her part though as she's a great laugh.

However, one time her sister came along to dinner too, she seems very prim and proper, and I was very surprised when she started the foot action too.

Maybe it's a family thing.

[NADTATIDA1]

Maybe I did not make it clear but in the first instance it did not happen to me in Thailand it happened in Canada.

It did happen a few nights ago in Thailand but I did not respond because I thought she must have bumped my foot unintentionally because of the foot thing here.

I have another meeting with the same group next Thursday. I want to be prepared if it happens again. But it is difficult for me to believe because all my experience tells me that this is definitely not a Thai thing. None of these women has ever traveled outside of Thailand.

SERIOUS

If it happens again you say you want to be prepared! being serious how would you go about that? I mean all females are different right? we are just mere men with zero skills about reading come ons from the female species,so in answer to your question some Thai women will and some will not, who knows?

Before you see her next week you have 2 or 3 options,personally i would get as close to her as possible and if she does it again give her the correct signals either for or against it depends how attractive she is.

LIGHT HEARTED

And i am sorry but taking a thread which is named "Do Thai woman play footsie?" seriously is just not going to happen,i think your best bet is get down to the market before thursday and treat yourself to some nice Dutch clogs to lesson the impact if she does it again!

failing that! a nice pair of hobnail boots you know the steel toe capped ones.....because you might need them to protect yourself if your co workers boyfriend finds out!

As you can see,i have given you two different replies as i don"t want to seem bias or be accused of having a sense of humour.

Good luck and next week let us know the outcome.

[chiangmaikelly]

I would not have any problems about a response if it were not in Thailand. Thailand is not like anywhere else and Thai women are not like women anywhere else in some things. Feet is one of those things. It is a big sign of dominance to get a guy to do things to a Thai woman’s feet. Not so in the West. I heard one middle aged Thai woman bragging to the others during a lunch break one day that her boyfriend used to do all sorts of things to her feet.

In the West picking your nose is a bad thing. Not in Thailand with up country women.

It is the height of ill manners to serve one guest before another at dinner in the West. In Thailand this is done even at fine restaurants.

So there is a difference.

It seems so far that I have gotten a couple of responses from men who had foot contact in public locations with Thai women.

At the meeting we don’t wear shoes. Me socks her barefoot. So this is up close and personal.