About That Aussie Chick In Bali

[udon]

Don't forget, Aus offered to do DNA on the ganja to see where it came from.

The Indos refused the offer.

If it could be proved that it was grown in Aus, why would anyone want to send grass the wrong way, there is enough grass grown in S.E.A.......

I believe it was destined from BNE to SYD and it was missed by the baggage handler/s. The dumbshits.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Give us a run down on the Channel 9 program on Corby at 20.30 tonight John

[Pink Mist]

Don't forget, Aus offered to do DNA on the ganja to see where it came from.

The Indos refused the offer.

If it could be proved that it was grown in Aus, why would anyone want to send grass the wrong way, there is enough grass grown in S.E.A.......

I believe it was destined from BNE to SYD and it was missed by the baggage handler/s. The dumbshits.

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my thoughts exactly, lots of things don't add up with AFP though.

They did an investigation into the claim that it was put in her baggage, the investigation said there was no evidence to support it.

Within a month a backflip they arrest 11 baggage handlers

[udon]

Give us a run down on the Channel 9 program on Corby at 20.30 tonight John

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I will if the Dreaded Dragon Lady only yaps during the ads

[Pink Mist]

Give us a run down on the Channel 9 program on Corby at 20.30 tonight John

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I will if the Dreaded Dragon Lady only yaps during the ads

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is that as bad as listening to eddy everything

[udon]

Update:

Corby: prisoner exchange deal close, says PM

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/18/1116361590519.html

[Pink Mist]

Update:

Corby: prisoner exchange deal close, says PM

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/05/18/1116361590519.html

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is that pre-empting a guilty verdict, I thought it was friday

[udon]

I don't think so, but I reckon they (Indons) can't back down now......... FACE!

[Pink Mist]

should've read the article first, but it still seem this girl had a number done on her by the AFP, I reckon if the cops had've revealed their hand the baggage handler bust would've fallen over, she is the unlucky victim in all of this.

[kreon]

Unfortunately the is no such thing in Indon law as "beyond reaonable doubt".

I think the Troika have already made up their minds.

The main judge certainly has.... Screw Bali!

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as this is a non-thai topic anyway, may i add that thai law works the same way here, where killers can get off

so you're telling me screw thailand now as well, huh

what about the indonesian fishermen whom where left to die on their boat in darwin, is that justice

sorry udon, become an international person, always look at both sides of a coin, as you do when you visit thailand

hunderds/thousands of foreigners are vulnerable in foreign countries

just look in iraq, kill a hunderd thousand innocent civilians, and then complain that a few westerners die, is that justice, you want me to go-on

[gburns57au]

Unfortunately the is no such thing in Indon law as "beyond reaonable doubt".

I think the Troika have already made up their minds.

The main judge certainly has.... Screw Bali!

as this is a non-thai topic anyway, may i add that thai law works the same way here, where killers can get off

so you're telling me screw thailand now as well, huh

what about the indonesian fishermen whom where left to die on their boat in darwin, is that justice

sorry udon, become an international person, always look at both sides of a coin, as you do when you visit thailand

hunderds/thousands of foreigners are vulnerable in foreign countries

just look in iraq, kill a hunderd thousand innocent civilians, and then complain that a few westerners die, is that justice, you want me to go-on

No Indon fishermen were left to die in Darwin.......all Illegal fishermen are taken into custody on their arrival...

the question on Corby is, Is she a victim of someone elses mistake or did she actually know she had the gear on her.....The Aussie press only reports what is favourable to her to arouse interest.

Whatever we think of the Bali Law System is irrelevent.....you want to know about it...ask Chris Parnell who spent 11 years in Jail there on what he still claims were trumped up charges.....he has a book called The Sunday Smuggler which is a good read. I am not promoiting his book for any reason other than the insight it gives into Bali Justice and I have no pecunary interest in it.

[kreon]

Unfortunately the is no such thing in Indon law as "beyond reaonable doubt".

I think the Troika have already made up their minds.

The main judge certainly has.... Screw Bali!

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as this is a non-thai topic anyway, may i add that thai law works the same way here, where killers can get off

so you're telling me screw thailand now as well, huh

what about the indonesian fishermen whom where left to die on their boat in darwin, is that justice

sorry udon, become an international person, always look at both sides of a coin, as you do when you visit thailand

hunderds/thousands of foreigners are vulnerable in foreign countries

just look in iraq, kill a hunderd thousand innocent civilians, and then complain that a few westerners die, is that justice, you want me to go-on

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No Indon fishermen were left to die in Darwin.......all Illegal fishermen are taken into custody on their arrival...

the question on Corby is, Is she a victim of someone elses mistake or did she actually know she had the gear on her.....The Aussie press only reports what is favourable to her to arouse interest.

Whatever we think of the Bali Law System is irrelevent.....you want to know about it...ask Chris Parnell who spent 11 years in Jail there on what he still claims were trumped up charges.....he has a book called The Sunday Smuggler which is a good read. I am not promoiting his book for any reason other than the insight it gives into Bali Justice and I have no pecunary interest in it.

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point taken......,

Detained Indonesian fisherman attacked

11:31 AEST Sat May 14 2005

AAP

An Indonesian fisherman is in critical condition after being severely burned with hot oil while in detention aboard his boat in Darwin harbour.

Police said the 29-year-old skipper received burns to 35 per cent of his body in an incident involving cooking oil in the early hours of Friday morning.

A man has been arrested in relation to the incident on board the detained Indonesian fishing boat, quarantined in a section of Darwin harbour.

It follows the death of another Indonesian fisherman in custody last month, which prompted the Indonesian government to urge better care of the detained men.

and here are the aussies crying for justice, if it was the other way round, you'd would say bad luck

[gburns57au]

Unfortunately the is no such thing in Indon law as "beyond reaonable doubt".

I think the Troika have already made up their minds.

The main judge certainly has.... Screw Bali!

as this is a non-thai topic anyway, may i add that thai law works the same way here, where killers can get off

so you're telling me screw thailand now as well, huh

what about the indonesian fishermen whom where left to die on their boat in darwin, is that justice

sorry udon, become an international person, always look at both sides of a coin, as you do when you visit thailand

hunderds/thousands of foreigners are vulnerable in foreign countries

just look in iraq, kill a hunderd thousand innocent civilians, and then complain that a few westerners die, is that justice, you want me to go-on

No Indon fishermen were left to die in Darwin.......all Illegal fishermen are taken into custody on their arrival...

the question on Corby is, Is she a victim of someone elses mistake or did she actually know she had the gear on her.....The Aussie press only reports what is favourable to her to arouse interest.

Whatever we think of the Bali Law System is irrelevent.....you want to know about it...ask Chris Parnell who spent 11 years in Jail there on what he still claims were trumped up charges.....he has a book called The Sunday Smuggler which is a good read. I am not promoiting his book for any reason other than the insight it gives into Bali Justice and I have no pecunary interest in it.

point taken......,

Detained Indonesian fisherman attacked

11:31 AEST Sat May 14 2005

AAP

An Indonesian fisherman is in critical condition after being severely burned with hot oil while in detention aboard his boat in Darwin harbour.

Police said the 29-year-old skipper received burns to 35 per cent of his body in an incident involving cooking oil in the early hours of Friday morning.

A man has been arrested in relation to the incident on board the detained Indonesian fishing boat, quarantined in a section of Darwin harbour.

It follows the death of another Indonesian fisherman in custody last month, which prompted the Indonesian government to urge better care of the detained men.

and here are the aussies crying for justice, if it was the other way round, you'd would say bad luck

They are only detained on their boats until medical checks are carried out hence the quarantine....the incident involved a fellow crew member.....even in ideal conditions this could have happenend....But you need to remember that these people are illegal fishermen, They shouldnt be here in the first place.

The Indon government wants us to take better care of them....if their own government took better care of them, they wouldnt need to come into Oz waters and fish illegally to provide a basic living for their families.

Anyway this is off topic now.......

Saw the Corby show tonight and it was crap.......an exercise in ratings winning.....it didnt deliver anything new just a lot of opinions from so called experts. Total disappointment.

[udon]

The Ch9 Corby show.

This was so piss poor, I was squirming with embarassment watching it.

I learnt that 92% of viewers think she's not guilty and that her young brother carried her boogey bag from the carousel to the customs desk in Bali, which explains (to me) why she did not notice the extra 4.1kgs. wt.

Remember, she did not see the bag again until it arrd in Bali.

I really thought the prog was produced by a Murdoch tabloid minion until I remembered it was a Packer channel.

A waste of 90 mins at prime time!

[udon]

SMH This morning. (Excerp)

Corby's defence team coordinator Vasu Rasiah told SBS television's Dateline program that Corby felt the Australian government had let her down.

"She is very depressed to know that her government let her down," Mr Rasiah said.

Mr Rasiah criticised the federal government and Australian Federal Police (AFP) for their delay in contacting Indonesian authorities after baggage handling concerns were revealed.

"They should come out straight away and inform the Indonesian government or the judicial system why it was delayed and what is actually happening," mr rasiah said.

He said the recent letter sent by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) to the Indonesian defence as too little, too late.

"One, the letter does not refer to Schapelle Corby at all, anywhere," Mr Rasiah said.

"Two, the letter only talks about drug importation.

"Number three, it says 'possible baggage handler involvement'."

Asked if he believed the AFP should have jeopardised their baggage handling operation for Corby's sake, Mr Rasiah said, "are you saying that Schapelle is collateral damage then?"

"They can afford to put Schapelle as collateral damage for their investigation which has been happening for more than a decade?"

[dr_Pat_Pong]

There are limits at international Law as to just how far Australia can go in the matter.

[udon]

SMH POLL about last nights crap.

Excellent - 4%

Good - 4%

OK - 6%

Gimmicky - 48%

Poor - 36%

Total Votes: 6116

Seems I am not alone

[dr_Pat_Pong]

SMH POLL about last nights crap.

Excellent - 4% 

Good - 4% 

OK - 6% 

Gimmicky - 48% 

Poor - 36% 

Total Votes: 6116

Seems I am not alone

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More about ratings I'd say ... and bugger Schappelle. Her gimmicky ' sponsor ' is a worry too.

[udon]

A young smartie, loves the publicity, owes thousands.

Got sued my multimillionaire Mad John (mobiles) for trying to pass off as Mad xxx, can't remenber.....

[patricktan]

This is a very good lesson for all of us and sholud keep it in mind.

Thanks you folk.

[TizMe]

19 April 2005

Transcript

Minister for Foreign Affairs

Interview: 3AW, Hinch

DERRYN HINCH - PRESENTER: On the line now, the Australian Federal Foreign Affairs Minister Alexander Downer. Good afternoon.

ALEXANDER DOWNER

Good afternoon, Derryn.

HINCH: I'm running the risk of giving you guys too many free kicks because I think you're being badly done by again. The fact that she hasn't been convicted yet, nobody's come to the defence, apart from the normal diplomatic things you extend to anybody ... with these other alleged drug runners ...

DOWNER: Hmm.

HINCH: The idea that you should be stepping in here and pleading for her and bringing her back here, I think is bizarre.

DOWNER: Well, we can't, anyway. And it is important that people understand that the Australian Government, good as it may be, is not omnipotent. We can't do everything. We can provide consular assistance to Australians who get into trouble overseas, which means we can go and see them in jail, make sure they're not being maltreated. We can help them get lawyers, that sort of thing. What we cannot do, is change the law of the land. We cannot change the laws of other countries. If an Australian is caught with drugs in another country, it's not just in Indonesia by the way, in many countries that brings a death sentence ...

HINCH: Mmm. Singapore, another example.

DOWNER: Well, no. In the case of this Australian in Singapore, he is ... there's one in Vietnam too, by the way ...

HINCH: Hmm, that's true, yep.

DOWNER: They're both on death row, and we are pleading for clemency. I met the Vietnamese Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs about another topic yesterday, and I again pleaded for clemency for the Australian in Ho Chi Minh City, in Saigon. We'll do that, and sometimes presidents do exercise clemency, but, you know, kings, or whoever it is, the heads of government.

HINCH: Mmm.

DOWNER: But in terms of these court cases, where Australians have been allegedly picked up with drugs, whatever the circumstances that will go to court and the court will hear the case. And the challenge, in the case of Schappelle Corby, is for the defence to make sure they put up a strong case on her behalf.

HINCH: One of the most bizarre things I've ever heard and seen today, on the news, is this argument that somehow, you and John Howard and the Australian Federal Police, should have arranged for the arrests of these nine people to take place on Australian soil. I mean, how can you do that? They may not have come home. They may have taken the drugs elsewhere. To me, this is Noddy Land.

DOWNER: Some of them were arrested at the airport, and some of them were arrested in a hotel. So you know, we obviously presume innocence until they're proven guilty, so I'd be careful ...

HINCH: That's fair ...

DOWNER: ... how I put this.

HINCH: That's fair.

DOWNER: But look. We are trying to stop drug trafficking around South East Asia into Australia. We make no secret of that, and the Australian Federal Police, and other government agencies, work very hard on doing that. If we can intercept and stop people, then young Australian lives will be saved here, because the drugs won't get to Australia, and that's the priority for us. If people get into the game of trafficking drugs and commit offences of that nature in other countries, they will get into the most terrible trouble.

HINCH: But I made the point, it sounds vulgar, I know, I said, we shouldn't commit adultery in Australia. But if you commit adultery in Saudi Arabia, you could get stoned to death. If you traffic drugs in Thailand, or Malaysia or Singapore, you know you could face a firing squad. That is the law in those countries.

DOWNER: Yeah, and we have all sorts of examples of Australians getting into trouble. For example, they have been found with alcohol in, not sure about adultery, but least they've been found (inaudible) in Saudi Arabia. We have an Australian who's been imprisoned for two years in Fiji for having a ...

HINCH: Homosexual sex.

DOWNER: ... homosexual relationship. Yeah, or homosexual sex, with another bloke. And, look, that's not the law of our land, but that is the law of Fiji. We can't change the laws. We can protest about the laws, we can raise questions about the laws, but I tell you what, we're not going to go to the Indonesians and say, they shouldn't have laws on drug trafficking. I mean, we think they're right to be tough on drug trafficking, even though we don't support capital punishment.

HINCH: Yeah, well, I know that you don't. In some circumstances, I do, and if that's the law of the land, that's the law of the land.

DOWNER: Hmm.

HINCH: You should know, we've talked about this before, the laws of the country you're visiting. In this case, allegedly, nine Australians, for a lot of money, risked a lot. And they could die for it.

DOWNER: Well, allegedly, they decided to take a punt. And bring the drugs presumably to Australia, and make millions and millions of dollars.

HINCH: Hmm.

DOWNER: Obviously the risk was enormously high, but the rewards were there. I would just say ... of course we don't know what the truth of this is, and that's a matter for the court to establish. But I would say this to people. Don't even think that you can get away with drug trafficking, because a lot of Australians have now been caught trafficking. And this, you know, admittedly it's just an allegation, but this, on top of the Schappelle Corby case, which has received wall to wall publicity.

HINCH: Yeah. I mean, as I said in my introduction, you'd have to be mad. You'd have to be stupid to try and do this, now. I mean, at any time, it's a risk, but right now, in the world, especially in Asian countries, dada means death. Drugs means death. And that's what you see in newspaper editorials, you see it in the airline magazines, you see it in airports, you see it everywhere, that if you traffic drugs you could die.

DOWNER: And the reason for countries being so strong on drugs is because of the damage drugs do to their own societies and to people in their own countries. Drugs kill.

HINCH: Does your government ... say these people are convicted, say Schapelle Corby is convicted, what's your stand on bringing them back to serve their time if convicted and spending like ten years in jail, five years in jail; bringing them back to serve it here in Australia?

DOWNER: Mmm. Of course if you are convicted of trafficking drugs, it would be a lot more than five or ten years in jail. But, well, we are at the beginning of negotiating a prisoner transfer agreement with Indonesia. We have one with Thailand where a request can be made by say an Australian in prison in Thailand to serve the sentence here in Australia. And if both sides are happy with that, then the prisoner gets transferred. And that has happened in the case ...

HINCH: Okay, one final question. If you are an Australian and you are convicted of trafficking drugs in Thailand, why should the Australian taxpayers pay your food and board for the next five, ten years here in Australia?

DOWNER: Because it's an exchange system; that is, that we would send Thais imprisoned here back there. So I think in terms of costs ...

HINCH: It would balance out, okay.

DOWNER: Probably ... I mean, I'm not sure exactly.

HINCH: Yeah, all right. Mr Downer, good to talk to you. Thanks for your time.

DOWNER: Okay. Thanks.

HINCH: Bye-bye.

[TizMe]

And from Derryn Hinch's Web site.

THE CORBY CONNECTION

To put it bluntly… this is crap. I opened my bundle of Sunday papers yesterday and saw the front page headline in the Sunday Herald Sun: “Help me , Mr Howard. Schapelle begs PM to rescue her”.

It was alleged drug smuggler Schapelle Corby’s latest publicity ploy. Then I opened today’s papers. And on the front page of the Herald Sun there she was again: “ I’ll listen. Schapelle’s Bali judge welcomes 11th-hour official Australian letter”. And there’s a picture of the judge and a picture of Corby who now goes by her first name in the news headlines.

Which other alleged drug smuggler has ever had this attention?

It reinforces my earlier argument that Schappelle Corby has attracted the attention of the Australian media, for repeated front page treatment, because she is young, white, pretty with big boobs. They aren’t giving this much attention to the so-called Bali Nine. Or a scrawny Vietnamese kid on Death Row in Singapore.

I reiterate: I don’t know, cannot know, if she is guilty or innocent of trying to smuggle more than four kilos of Australian pot ( “lemon juice”) into Bali in her boogie board bag. But what has the Australian Federal Government got to do with this? Why are they involved? What have allegations of cocaine smugglers INTO Australia and baggage handlers got to do with charges of a young woman allegedly smuggling pot OUT of Australia.

An Indonesian court will make its own decision. And the Australians pouring out e-mail petitions deriding that country’s legal system were more than happy when the same courts brought down death penalties for the Bali bombers. You can’t have it both ways.

As I have said before: I believe Schapelle Corby will be found guilty. The prosecution is no longer asking for the death penalty. If convicted, I believe she will get five years jail. Or spend five years behind bars. And, behind the scenes, our government will be pushing to have her serve it back in Australia. And I think that is wrong. If I commit a crime in Florida then I serve my time in Florida. Likewise Indonesia.

I cannot believe that a newspaper like the Herald Sun (part of the group I write a fortnightly column for) can devote so many front pages to this alleged drug smuggler. As I said: Young, white, pretty, big boobs. Makes good headlines I guess.

Monday, May 16, 2005

[udon]

As I said: Young, white, pretty, big boobs. Makes good headlines I guess

Hinch has received an incredible of hate mail for his warped opinions re Corby.

It appears that the drugs were intented for SYD.

The baggage handler (BNE) would have had no idea whether the owner of the bag was blue eyed with big tits...... or your 86 yr old mum.

It could have belonged to you or me or one of our parents.......

The fact that she is young & attractive is a bonus for journos and editors.

I think that this could have happened to any of us is the reason so many Aussies are outraged about this trial and the screwups by our security and lack of video evidence in Bali and BNE.

[kreon]

The Ch9 Corby show.

This was so piss poor, I was squirming with embarassment watching it.

I learnt that 92% of viewers think she's not guilty and that her young brother carried her boogey bag from the carousel to the customs desk in Bali, which explains (to me) why she did not notice the extra 4.1kgs. wt.

Remember, she did not see the bag again until it arrd in Bali.

I really thought the prog was produced by a Murdoch tabloid minion until I remembered it was a Packer channel.

A waste of 90 mins at prime time!

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now this has always been my suspescion what happend to the young brother, h3ll he carried her bag after all

and why would anybody ship 4.1 kg in a bag from brisbane to sydney by air is bizzare too, would it not be easier to do it by road

and then i'm led to believe that this was not her first trip bali either

the problem is that 90% of the aussies thinks she's innocent, whilst 90% of the indonesians think, she's not

[kreon]

As I said: Young, white, pretty, big boobs. Makes good headlines I guess

Hinch has received an incredible of hate mail for his warped opinions re Corby.

It appears that the drugs were intented for SYD.

The baggage handler (BNE) would have had no idea whether the owner of the bag was blue eyed with big tits...... or your 86 yr old mum.

then why would he carry 4.1kg aussie pot into a baggage handling area to have it flown to sydney, sh1t the exposure and risk would too high, better and safer to drive it up by road

[udon]

Read it again mate, the young bro carried it from the carousel, at Denpasar, to the customs desk at Denpasar......

Corby had only been to Bali once before, in 2000.

Her sister and bro in law do NOT have a business in Bali, they have a biz on the Gold Coast.

Why bne to syd...... fast!

whilst 90% of the indonesians think, she's not (inocent)

Who told you that, someone in a pub !!!!!!!! Geeeezus!

[chuchok]

As I said: Young, white, pretty, big boobs. Makes good headlines I guess

Hinch has received an incredible of hate mail for his warped opinions re Corby.

It appears that the drugs were intented for SYD.

The baggage handler (BNE) would have had no idea whether the owner of the bag was blue eyed with big tits...... or your 86 yr old mum.

It could have belonged to you or me or one of our parents.......

The fact that she is young & attractive is a bonus for journos and editors.

I think that this could have happened to any of us is the reason so many Aussies are outraged about this trial and the screwups by our security and lack of video evidence in Bali and BNE.

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Hinch can be a right ###### at times, although he can be a good at times.Hate to admit though...he's a kiwi!

[udon]

A Kiwi broadcasting from Mexico.

[TizMe]

As I said: Young, white, pretty, big boobs. Makes good headlines I guess.

Although I personnally believe that she probably is not guilty, I also aggree with Derryn Hinch's statement.

I wonder how many Aussies would be convinced, or would even give a sh1t, if an Aussie citizen caught under the same circumstances looked like this.

[udon]

Is that you, Tiz?