Thailand Braces For Explosive Thaksin Verdict

[animatic]

Thaksin has every opportunity to got to court and clear his name in person.

He has the means, and the money/lawyers to do so, he has access to transport .

He would already been out from the Racha case some time ago

if he had served his slap on the hand sentence.

But that wasn't the worry,

his BIG worry is he KNOWS there is something in the other cases,

and they are NOT small, the government just successfully prosecuted the

fastest example to hold him in place. But he absconded.

He has lawyers and could just say " i Acknowledge this case." several times,

and the cases could proceed, but he is using his self created absence as a procedural block

to prevent further progress, ie using rule of law when he sees fit,

and not when it doesn't benefit him.

I don't want to play the world smallest violin for him...

I can play a REAL one... badly... Uncle Miltie style.

I would gladly do it outside his cell door for a few nights

as pay back for all the hassles he's caused.

Are you a yellow shirt Thai on the PAD payroll? If not, you could have fooled me.

No, not a yellow shirt, I have never even met one to my knowledge.

No, I am not on TVF payroll, though TVF bought me one beer last year at Blues Factory.

I did see the TRT guys screw Samui after winning the election

and said specifically Thaksin said cut the budget for not voting for him.

I have watched Thaksin, who I once was a fan of, and his game has gone down hill steadily.

You need NOT be a yellow shirt to think he is bad,

and very bad for Thailand should he take the helm.

So you must be talking with Dale Blue/Ferwert/poleaxe/pudinsimulac regularly,

he's the one spouting this 'on the TVF payroll' idea. Who's your paymaster?

Edited February 22, 2010 by animatic

[WinnieTheKhwai]

Exactly where do you find democracy in any of this mess?

The present government is an elected government. You do realise there was an election after the coup, right?

The Red Shirts feel that when elected governments are thrown out by courts that are not impartial on fairly frivolous charges (PM appeared on a TV cooking show!), several times, until finally some of the more currupt coalition partners realised that there's more bread in joining the other camp, helped by under the table payments, that the result is less than transparent democracy.

I personally don't agree however; worse things happen in this country when it comes to governance, and I don't think Abhisit (and some of his more rabid friends) have done anything worse than what Thaksin & friends would have done.

To me the issue is in the power balance itself; these coalition governments have no real power other than when goals with the military/establishment align. Abhisit is the result of that, not really the cause.

[rixalex]

Yes, she personally benefited from those loans but so did the Nurses, Doctors, Pharmacists, Teachers, Cleaners and others who worked at the school. What is the problem with that?

The problem with that is it has nothing to do with either this thread or the case against Thaksin.

[rixalex]

The Red Shirts feel that when elected governments are thrown out by courts that are not impartial on fairly frivolous charges (PM appeared on a TV cooking show!),

The elected government wasn't thrown out. Samak was made to stand down. He could have stood again. Thaksin prevented his return.

As for the reds feeling the courts are impartial, ask them how they felt about the assets concealment case against Thaksin that he won.

My point being, if someone wants to complain in a sincere manner about the impartiality of the courts, they shouldn't simply do so when their man loses.

[animatic]

The Red Shirts feel that when elected governments are thrown out by courts that are not impartial on fairly frivolous charges (PM appeared on a TV cooking show!),

The elected government wasn't thrown out. Samak was made to stand down. He could have stood again. Thaksin prevented his return.

As for the reds feeling the courts are impartial, ask them how they felt about the assets concealment case against Thaksin that he won.

My point being, if someone wants to complain in a sincere manner about the impartiality of the courts, they shouldn't simply do so when their man loses.

Samak appeared on a cooking show... fair play.

It was also a political talk show for him.

BUT Samak also got PAID to be on the cooking show, and LIED IN COURT about that pay.

So not so fair play.

And in spite of this perjury conviction he could have immediately been re-installed as PM.

He was never removed as an MP either. But Thaksin couldn't control him well. Big surprise there.

He was removed permanently by a Thaksin lead clique. On Thaksins say so.

This pissed off a Newin and others led Samak backing clique, and eventually they bolted.

There is money paid under the table to ALL coalition partners, including ALL of TRT's 'factions'.

The question is would the smaller parties be sticking with an effective entity in PTP

or the dregs of 2 past political parties of such arrogance and ill judgment, that lost their

total leadership to bans.

PTP acknowledges this fact,

they can't even find a suitable PM candidate for the censure motion.

Obviously Newin could see this early on.

So there was a change of allegiances, and that is typical here.

So this is potentially explosive, street violence in the name of democracy,

ignoring that the current democracy is just the same as typically for Thailand.

But the alternative is a clearly inept party, controlling an even more fractious

coalition of the barely willing, led by the barely competent, back for another round of

attempting to white wash their past leaders convictions to get them back in power

and all in the name of democracy... as a route to get back into the public trough.

And the movers and shakers of the street actions are really anti-monarchist, neo-socialists

led by an arch capitalist, fascist leaning, megalomaniac wanting to save his sequestered funds from confiscation.

So just teaming with real democracy here....

Truly pathetic.

Edited February 22, 2010 by animatic

[SomTumTiger]

Thailand might be bracing for an explosive Thaksin verdict, but currently I am bracing for my next bout of explosive diarrhea. I get it every time I think about PM Charlerm of the PTP being in charge. Makes us all sick doesn't it?

[tooninthai]

In one demonstration yesterday there were approx 3,000 red shirts

On a day they had stated would include a 1,000,000-man march.

If you really think the red shirts are dwindling, you really need to look again imho.

A ratio of 3,000/1,000,000 would seem to indicate at least a slight decrease in the stated amount of support.

But it was one demo in one town so that is irrelevent .

[overhaul38]

Seize the moment,right now he is a ant crawling around in circle dreading the final stamp and twist.I suggest take all the money (don't arm the enemy) cancel his nationality.Its as good as it gets without a bullet.<deleted> him and his prostitute misguided halfwits.Time to move on

Don't be shy...tell us what you really think. Dont fret yourself...the Thai government will take all the money. If there is anyone who feels otherwise please let me know.. I am taking bets and giving odd that the Thai government will take every last satang. It does show you that the winner of a war always writes the history and names the villains.

[jdinasia]

If a thief steals my wallet and he is caught, I would expect the court to give me my wallet back. I wouldn't expect the court to give me his house and car.

garyA --- you are being disingenuous. You would expect the thief to give you your wallet AND be punished. This is a civil case meaning the punishment here will be painful in his wallet. Then comes the criminal case ....

[h90]

While Thaksin did have a few positive contributions while he was in office, let's not forget that everything he did was with OUR money. That's right- OUR money = the hardworking middle class taxpayers' money ('cos the rich here evade taxes anyway ). It's like he's telling us that for every 100 baht he takes from us, he'll spend 30 baht of it on healthcare, loans, etc. (AND take full credit for that) and the rest he keeps for himself and his cronies.

If he really cared for the poor, he would've spent some from his own pocket. As (soon to be ex) Thailand's richest man, how much has he donated to charities?

The poor also paid their share of it...Tax on beer, lao kao, cigarettes is also high and not forget also the poor have mobile phones.

So in percentage of there income they may pay similar than the middle class.