Red-shirts To Splash One Million Cc Of Blood On Govt House

[twschw]

No chances being taken here, ready for a day of shopping!!

Edited March 15, 2010 by twschw

[animatic]

they are going to use animal blood from the slaughter houses, get real people. Mission impossible. Nobody would take their blood and have it handed over for spilling it around, in a short term, is unthinkable, unaesthetic and it would be a crime against fellow citizens who are in need for blood donation.

You are just speculating here. It would be more symbolic for them the "shed" their blood for their fanatic cause.

And fits in much more with the voodoo style cult aspects and cursing ceremonies.

It wouldn't be 'powerful magic' if they announced their own blood, and then used pigs.

And since the power of the magic MUST be strong to save face they won't stint.

[frodo]

Bioterrorism is terrorism by intentional release or dissemination of biological agents (bacteria, viruses, or toxins); these may be in a naturally-occurring or in a human-modified form.

Given the scenario of throwing blood and let's say it does hit people. The act was intentional. The hard part is determining if bacteria or viruses were in that blood. If so, it may classify as a form of bioterrorism.

Have you ever left your house when you knew you had a cold or flu and sneezed before you returned home ?

Of course, and I believe most of us have at some point. There are some big differences between the common cold and the release of agents that are meant to harm, create a high mortality rate, and causing public panic and social disruption.

Walking outside with cold or flu will hardly qualify as any of those mentioned.

[rainman]

All you drama queens go back and read the original post. It doesn't say that they're going to play Songkran with blood. They're pouring the blood at the gates to government house and at Abhisit's house which is in Sukhumvit Soi 31. They're not throwing it at expats and tourists along Sukhumvit street. So basically, if you don't want to get infected with HIV, don't stand at the gate of government house or Abhisit's house ..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

[animatic]

There is a group in the west that likes to throw blood at ladies in fur coats - PETA. They are considered totally bonkers by most.

Yes, but not quite so bonkers to use their own blood....

We seem to have set a new benchmark in Thailand this week.

Why am I thinking of the movie 'Carrie' right now....

[anotherpeter]

Terrorists are terrorists.

Kind of an obvious statement there, don't you think? It's like saying "elephants are elephants".

Besides, red shirts aren't terrorists.

You get in the way of them throwing blood everywhere and get hit, let us know if you change your mind.

They didn't say that they were going to randomly throw it at people, did they? Maybe something got lost in translation? I read something else.

Some reports stated that they were going to throw the blood on Abhisit's house (Suk soi 31) and government buildings. There was one report that was more vague by quoting a protester who only said "Sukhumvit".

[animatic]

There are unconfirmed reports by the Foreign Ministry that there are concerns of vampires coming to Bangkok ...

Niche-marketing at its very best !

Wonder they have special visa-arrangements for vampires ?

Ve havveeeeaaa maaade arraaaannngments vor you

Please coooome, ennnnjoy yourselllvvves.

[Matt1288]

All you drama queens go back and read the original post. It doesn't say that they're going to play Songkran with blood. They're pouring the blood at the gates to government house and at Abhisit's house which is in Sukhumvit Soi 31. They're not throwing it at expats and tourists along Sukhumvit street. So basically, if you don't want to get infected with HIV, don't stand at the gate of government house or Abhisit's house ..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Agreed, I still find this quite distasteful though. I cannot imagine who will clean up that blood.

[Publicus]

This is bloody stupid.

[britmaveric]

^most likely a yellow supporter!

[hextac]

Why am I thinking of the movie 'Carrie' right now....

Probably because you want to put a bit more spin in the mix?

[frodo]

All you drama queens go back and read the original post. It doesn't say that they're going to play Songkran with blood. They're pouring the blood at the gates to government house and at Abhisit's house which is in Sukhumvit Soi 31. They're not throwing it at expats and tourists along Sukhumvit street. So basically, if you don't want to get infected with HIV, don't stand at the gate of government house or Abhisit's house ..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

You're correct the original article did not say that. However, a poster did see an interview on BBC with one of the leaders a few hours ago. In that interview, it was reported that blood would be thrown along Sukhumvit, not just a specific place on Sukhumvit.

Granted, this topic has gotten off the original point.

[lannarebirth]

All you drama queens go back and read the original post. It doesn't say that they're going to play Songkran with blood. They're pouring the blood at the gates to government house and at Abhisit's house which is in Sukhumvit Soi 31. They're not throwing it at expats and tourists along Sukhumvit street. So basically, if you don't want to get infected with HIV, don't stand at the gate of government house or Abhisit's house ..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Well, it will be good for the gardens anyway.

[Carib]

All you drama queens go back and read the original post. It doesn't say that they're going to play Songkran with blood. They're pouring the blood at the gates to government house and at Abhisit's house which is in Sukhumvit Soi 31. They're not throwing it at expats and tourists along Sukhumvit street. So basically, if you don't want to get infected with HIV, don't stand at the gate of government house or Abhisit's house ..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Agreed, I still find this quite distasteful though. I cannot imagine who will clean up that blood.

The soidogs will, problem solved

[BkkMD]

All you drama queens go back and read the original post. It doesn't say that they're going to play Songkran with blood. They're pouring the blood at the gates to government house and at Abhisit's house which is in Sukhumvit Soi 31. They're not throwing it at expats and tourists along Sukhumvit street. So basically, if you don't want to get infected with HIV, don't stand at the gate of government house or Abhisit's house ..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

LOL

Or try avoiding "street hookers" altogether maybe?

Edited March 15, 2010 by BkkMD

[Netfan]

Terrorists are terrorists.

Kind of an obvious statement there, don't you think? It's like saying "elephants are elephants".

Besides, red shirts aren't terrorists.

You get in the way of them throwing blood everywhere and get hit, let us know if you change your mind.

They didn't say that they were going to randomly throw it at people, did they? Maybe something got lost in translation? I read something else.

we'll see how nice and neat they are. unless this whole thing is another fairy tale, like 1,000,000 people showing up, or the 20,000 monks.

[WAERTH]

As a representative of the World Vampire Association I want to point out that blood that has left the body is unsuitable for us. We only drink "freshly tapped" blood. Therefor we cannot take up the offer of Thaksin Shinawatra to go to Thailand and have a party.

We do invite mr Shinawatra to send his 2 daughters to us so we can entertain them on a party of our own.

Wladth

[whiterussian]

Sorry if repost:

The Grauniad of UK

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/20...thaksin-bangkok

Keep the army out of Bangkok

The Thai elites may not like it but the people support Thaksin-aligned parties. Bringing in the army is not the answer.

Thaksin's stance as champion of the people's freedoms must be taken with a large pinch of salt. His first term in office is remembered for a controversial drugs crackdown in which more than 2,000 people died; some, it was alleged, at the hands of government-licensed death squads. His failed attempt to end the low-level insurgency in Thailand's Muslim south was also widely criticised for brutality. His family's business dealings were always controversial and lie at the root of the corruption charges brought against him.

All the same, being ruled by democratically-elected governments seems to be important to the people of Thailand, north and south, rural and urban, as it is to other nations. The fact remains, unpalatable to those who revile Thaksin's populist politics, that he and his allies win elections whenever they are fairly and freely staged. This is also an important consideration for Thailand's regional and western allies. Next door, Burma provides a salutary warning of what the subversion of the democratic process and unfettered military rule can entail.

Thailand's political stability is important, too, for the region as a whole, for curbing the international drugs trade, keeping Islamist fundamentalism at bay, and for sustaining the economic rebound that has begun to take hold in south-east Asia. Thailand's recent history amounts to persuasive proof of the un-wisdom of military interventions in democratic life. Any respite from current troubles is only temporary. The coup-meisters only make matters worse.

[animatic]

Rational people wouldn't want a movement like this to run their country. Thailand may be more rational than you think.

The score so far -

Asean Summit - Thaksin

Black Songkran - Abhisit

100K Man March - Abhisit

When is the game over? Please, make it be over!

Missed:

Sept 19 aniversary march to topple gov. - Abhisit

Grand misapplied petition - Abhisit

ASEAN Sumit redux - Abhsit

Turned around economy freefall - Abhisit / Korn

Attended international summits and returned un-deposed - Abhisit

No observable incidents of mental faculties failing publicly - Abhisit

[Netfan]

..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Pretty elitist sounding words - nice to know you have so much respect for those on the lower end of the social strata. How's the view from up there on that pedestal?

[ballpoint]

..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Pretty elitist sounding words - nice to know you have so much respect for those on the lower end of the social strata. How's the view from up there on that pedestal?

No, I think it's nice of him to report his experiences to the forum.

[rainman]

..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Pretty elitist sounding words - nice to know you have so much respect for those on the lower end of the social strata. How's the view from up there on that pedestal?

Your twist didn't work.

[ovaltina]

I still think the one lone man standing infront of a tank was a more powerful gesture of defiance, than spraying loads of your diseased plasma onto the scenery.

Its a sign of the lowering standards of the modern youth.

[BangrakBob]

Where will they collect that much blood from at short notice?

[Netfan]

..and also start using rubbers during intercourse with street hookers, which is the more likely place you're going to catch HIV than from the red shirt protesters.

Pretty elitist sounding words - nice to know you have so much respect for those on the lower end of the social strata. How's the view from up there on that pedestal?

Your twist didn't work.

No problem- its just that the chances are that the "street hookers" with HIV that you are talking about are the daughters of the people who are demonstrating. So its interesting to learn how much (little) respect you have for these people who are out there risking their lives. About the same as their absent "leader" i guess.

[luangtom]

One sees and hears all of these things and Thai people still wonder why they are considered Third World........

[bangkokrick]

I still think the one lone man standing infront of a tank was a more powerful gesture of defiance, than spraying loads of your diseased plasma onto the scenery.

Its a sign of the lowering standards of the modern youth.

The guys that came up with his idea are not youths.

Cheers, Rick

[bangkokrick]

One sees and hears all of these things and Thai people still wonder why they are considered Third World........

Most Thai people will be sickened by this ridiculous idea and the UDD will lose support if it is pushed through.

Cheers, Rick

[animatic]

The bloodletting plan was just announced on CNN. So now the whole world is aghast and of course they are thinking that Thailand is barbaric. Let's just hope that they realise that it's just a few fanatics and such actions don't shame the whole of Thaialnd and Thai people.

But seriously, I recognise that Thaksin is a very shrewd businessman. How on earth could he not have judged the negative PR that is already resulting from this scheme, both inside and outside Thailand? If he was actually successful in becoming the next PM of Thailand, the media of course will refer to him as "Dr. Thaksin, who regained power through a large demonstration of his "red shirts" in the streets of Bangkok that included spreading their own blood on Government House...."

This is getting really bizarre!

Thaksin is the guy making the following PR mistakes

- wins an election and for about a year and a bit does a pretty good job with unbelievable speed, resulting in an excellent PR image worldwide and leading to his asset declaration case being dismissed...things are going great and he looks like he'll be around for 20 years....but.....then.....he......

- ruins Thailand's free media and alienates the NGOs despite both being relatively pro Thaksin to this point then he also.....

- instigates a series of idiotic measures such as trying to buy up the skytrain, trying to buy liverpool, subsidising deisel until the country loses a huge wad of cash, blatantly favouring his own friends and their businesses, suing when Shin is accused of favourtism, signing a bunch of FTAs that the rural poor never get to comment on, generally being a bit of a <deleted> in the media (arrogance, reliance on fortune tellers) resulting in losing Bangkok (governorship as well as seats in the 2004 election)...but he remains popular upcountry...until....he....

- installs a lousy cabinet in 2004 following a sweeping election victory, declaring that provinces who voted for him will get helped; provinces who didn't will be relegated to last; then proceeds to completely destroy stability in the south and have a war on drugs that draws global condemnation so he.....

- proposes chicken for planes, continues to force the airport to be built overpriced too fast and using only his own approved contractors many of whom (like the CTX scandle) appear to have no skill in supplying what he wants plus the south situation gets worse but he ignores it....and instead.....

- tries to get rid of the auditor general, and fails....but then.....

- fiddles the laws on telecoms to allow 49% foreign ownership then immeidately sells 96% of Shin to Singaporeans, but claims to have no knowledge of the deal and shares worth 1b then sold for 47b the following day by his family are supposedly tax free - THIS IS A MAJOR TURNING POINT WHERE HE COULD HAVE GIVEN UP A LITTLE TO SAVE A LOT

- suffers the yellow shirts daily, but then resigns after meeting with the King...says he will quit politics....but then.....calls a snap election because he already had resigned and now needs a way to go back on his word....says he intends to stand again - doesn't give the opposition time to prepare so they boycott and then he cheats in the election because TRT cannot win certain seats in the south or in Bkk standing unopposed - IDIOCY

- the result in annulled so now he is dealing with protests from PAD in BKK, the fall out of Shin stocks falling like a stone...and he pulls out yes no cards in press interviews, goes on reality TV to Roiet and spends a fortune on the Grand Invitation festival in honour of HM despite a certain photo showing him dressed inappropriately and the fact that a royal barge ceremony is royally initiated....barge goes empty and a huge ton of cash wasted but instead of admitting defeat.....he....

- sues BKK post for reporting cracks in the airport and focuses solely on finishing it - refuses to commit to new election dates, admit cheating and refuses to resign AGAIN EASILY DONE AT THIS POINT mostly spends his time in rural Isaan where he is still loved; arranges a mob to come in and cheer him at the new airport opening which most people can see is deranged; it isn't ready to open but they move man and mountain......

- The coup OK HE IS HARD DONE BY AT THIS POINT...but.....

- PPP he selects Samak against his wife's and many other's better judgement - Samak turns out to be his own man and not entirely capable of following orders; unable to change the constitution and unwilling to stop his own political diatribes on his cooking show; despite the signs suggesting that Chart Thai would fail, PPP cheat anyhow and hope they can change the constitution in time....but they cannot....and even then.... he comes back, kisses the ground and struts around meeting with Prem (the guy he is accusing of everything now) asking to meet to discuss - Prem knows a snake when he sees it and says 'maybe' a sure sign that Thaksin should back off...but he still doesnt....

- he then is assumed to be perhaps involved when someone tries to bribe in the wife's court case......and then he goes on the run after they lose instead of staying and being a bit of a martyr on a suspended sentence under appeal (kind of where his wife is now)......AND HE STILL WON"T SHUT UP.....

- and in the meantime, red shirters are going on stage and in the foreign correspondents club and preaching illegal ideas which causes mass public hatred (Da Torpedo) and puts one of the PPP faithful (Jakapop) on the run after he first claims wrong translation but then is forced to run away since he delivered the same speech in Thai in Los Angeles and it has been caught on record.....but in the meantime with things falling apart locally, he.....

- then replaces Samak with his own Brother in law, and instead of dealing gently with the yellow shirts, they lose control and then force the PAD to take action so the PAD head out to the airport and Somchai either has no power to seize the airport back from the PAD or leaves them there.... everyone can see the government has lost the plot and even then they don't get anything done...so the coalition partners are getting antsy...they want their budgets.....

- so when everything is found against them he then refuses to give in and compromise and is now really starting to look a bit stupid as the govt then collapses after they have to pay for their cheating in the previous election and so then they find themselves as opposition having failed to register a single initiative in over a year of government due to a complete obsession with changing the constitution (unless you count Mingkwan's attempt to set up a rice cartel) and then....

- Songkran the red shirts try to storm BKK and discover Bangkok and Pattaya dislike them...they overrun ASEAN Summit with violence broadcast worldwide and teh Jatuporn claims of a massacre are found to be total lies....world press starting to suspect some of these red shirts are just thugs...govt becomes stronger as a result PR MESS.....so....

- with the case coming closer Thaksin decides to go to Cambodia as an advisor - a move hated by southern Isaan people and not really endearing himself to anyone worldwide; as some worldwide suspect that the Cambodian government are 'a bit dodgy' - very unusual to help a foreign power like that...COMPLETE PR DISASTER

- he then tries to get himself pardoned...except you can't do that if you don't take responsibility for guilt...so again PR DISASTER and a waste of everyone's time....so.....

- and with ongoing press appearances getting increasingly bitter and ill thought out, foreign media start to get less interested especially as foreign powers aware of his hazmat status now start to politely take away visa priveleges...and even then

- he complains bitterly when a court case that lays completely bare his ill gotten gains with a get out of jail free card where he can walk away with 1/2 his money instead of drawing the response of well ok, it's a fair cop, instead continues down the path of threats MORE PR MESS

- red shirts now have a clear nonsensical policy; they want no double standards, except that their leader not be judged by the laws of either constitution nor be subject to any further review.... and their activities are scheduled to coincide with the court findings...but they can't get a crowd together until now.....a million man march they talk it up for a month....and....

- organisers repeat various threats of bringing petrol, faeces, rotten fish....etc - basically everything needed to make people submit by force....so a lot of people don't want to come....no where near 1 million turn up..TOO EARLY TO TELL, SEEMS LIKE IT HAS GONE QUITE WELL DESPITE A LOW TURN OUT SOLEY COMPARED TO THE EXPECTATION THEY CREATED FOR THEMSELVES, BIT OF A PR MESS WHEN THEY COULD HAVE NOT SAID 1 MILLION AND PEOPLE NOW WOULD BE SAYING OH LOOK QUITE A FEW INNIT....so

- organisers now try to promote peace and harmony to the press, while preaching fire and ice to the masses......but they fail to take care of basic necessities, so people don't want to stay long; especially the so called 'swing group' the locals who come for a few hours each day (the yellow shirt bread and butter so to speak)....so then they claim they will march to army headquarters...but....

- they are unable to attract a suitable reaction, the govt seems to have things under control, peaceful is great but not so newsworthy and Bangkokians for the most part are annoyed as this is another of MANY protests from the frigging yellows, the reds, residents wonder when will they see a wet T shirts protest - about the only thing left they are willing to put up with more disturbance for.... and even now...

- the organisers call for 1 million pints of CC of blood

So you guys think that he is a genius up to the point he asked for the blood????

Seriously, it reads like a what not to do of political PR.

About the only things done well are:

- you are either a red shirter (pro democracy) or you are an elitist rural poor hating rich Bangkokian

- we don't pay the mobs (we just give them petrol money, shirts, posters, flags, a uniform....but no....it's a popular uprising and the media love the story)

Perhaps not the best thread to write this on, but anytime I hear how good this guy is at PR, I kind of flinch.

As one of his advisors said back in 2005; 'oh yeah, we told him that, but he stopped listening to his advisers 2 years ago'

What a pity he couldn't have turned back at the many points on this road to hel_l that he chose. So many ways he could still have been PM if he'd just played his cards (and he had most of them) a little better.

This is NOT the post of the day...

It's gotta be post of the week.

How many roads

must a man walk down,

before he can get a clue....

[ovaltina]

I still think the one lone man standing infront of a tank was a more powerful gesture of defiance, than spraying loads of your diseased plasma onto the scenery.

Its a sign of the lowering standards of the modern youth.

The guys that came up with his idea are not youths.

Cheers, Rick

It was a joke..... like , "back in my day , we got real uprisings , not like kids today!" Nevermind.

Straight up though, that photo of the guy facing down the tank is a total historical timeless statement of the courage of the oppressed in the face of tyranny. Can you honestly say that some blokes stabbing themselves because a billionaire told them to, will ever make such a memorable & moving photograph?