george Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 TRUE BLOOD? Blood campaign is dangerous : health groups By Pongphon Sarnsamak The Nation BANGKOK: -- The Nursing and Midwifery Council is threatening to punish nurses who agree to collect blood from red-shirt protesters for the plan to pour blood around Government House today. "We will consider punishing them on a case-by-case basis," council president Prof Vijit Sriruphan said yesterday. "They should know that collecting blood is only done for research or medical purposes." But she said the council would not go as far as cutting nurses' professional licences. Vijit expressed concern over the mass blood collection at at the rally site, saying that it could put demonstrators at risk because some medical devices could be contaminated. She spoke after Dr Weng Tojirakarn, a leader of the Democratic Alliance against Dictatorship (DAAD), said he would mobilise 500 medical workers, including doctors and nurses, to draw blood from red-shirt demonstrators. The blood campaign is a move aimed at pressuring Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to dissolve the House of Representatives. But many health authorities expressed serious concern as soon as the idea was unveiled. Medical Council secretary general Dr Samphan Komrit said it was highly unlikely the reds would be able to mobilise 500 medical workers for the protest today. He said taking blood from people could be dangerous if it wasn't done by trained medical workers. Deputy director of the Thai Red Cross Society's National Blood Centre, Commander Dr Ubonwan Jarunreungrit, said a blood puncture could cause paralysis if the needle was put in the wrong position. "Or if the puncture is made on an artery, people will lose a lot of blood and they may suffer shock," she warned. Thai Red Cross Aids Research Centre director Dr Praphan Panuphak disagreed with the red shirts' blood campaign. If protesters did not have adequate sleep, they would be exhausted after having blood drawn out, he said. Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanawisit warned protesters not to use the same needle to draw out blood as they would be at risk from infectious diseases such as HIV/Aids and hepatitis. He also said red shirts should avoid giving blood in sunlight as that could put them at risk of suffering a stroke. Samphan, of the Medical Council, also disagreed with the red shirts' blood campaign. "I can't say that this is an abuse of the code of medical conduct or not, but it would be the first [such] case in history," he said. Samphan said the council would discuss the issue at its next meeting if somebody filed a complaint about the move. -- The Nation 2010-03-16 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I can't make up my mind regarding which is the most idiotic - the original idea or the reaction to it. It is safe to assume that the Shinawatra family will be sending a generous donation from somewhere that isn't in Germany, UK, USA etc etc. About 8 pints each should be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I can't make up my mind regarding which is the most idiotic - the original idea or the reaction to it. It is safe to assume that the Shinawatra family will be sending a generous donation from somewhere that isn't in Germany, UK, USA etc etc. About 8 pints each should be enough. Naaaaah they are sending free drinks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckleberry Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 "Here! Somchai! The boss said we should be sure to look good for the conference in BKK, so we've got the nice new red shirts out, right?" "Right!" "And now we're here, the accomodation's crap and the food's.............well, iffy, right?" "Right!" "And we've left the wife and kids back home for who knows how long, right?" "Right!" "And now the boss wants blood!" "Yeah!" "Sounds just like that farang describing his job in the UK!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtgruen Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I can't make up my mind regarding which is the most idiotic - the original idea or the reaction to it. It is safe to assume that the Shinawatra family will be sending a generous donation from somewhere that isn't in Germany, UK, USA etc etc. About 8 pints each should be enough. Naaaaah they are sending free drinks.... Can't wait to see the new Reuters Headlines...."THAILAND SPILLS THE BLOOD OF TENS OF THOUSANDS, INNOCENT, PEACEFUL DEMOSTRATORS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Can someone please explain to me how this act of spilling blood would make the government suddenly change their minds and dissolve itself and call new elections? Who ever thought of this as plan B really needs their head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Well it wouldn't be the first time the Thaksin lot have spilled blood, would it? Let them go ahead and do it, it will show the country (and the international press) that they are just animals and lose them a lot of sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cayenne Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Can any red shirt apologist explain to us how this bloodletting will advance the cause of democracy even one tiny bit? Seriously, the movement itself has some valid points, but this is hardly the way to gain any credibility or sympathy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huanga Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Maybe protesting in the heat is a real hard work. So a little blood to make nam-dok to restore energy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Wait till it hits the international press.... Thai poor people spilling their own blood on the pavement as a last resort to get....(whatever).. Got the picture?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Regrettably i have had to remove two posts that are in violation of the Forum rules. Please keep the Royal House out of political discussions - thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshiwara Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 What happened to the bags of faeces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Well it wouldn't be the first time the Thaksin lot have spilled blood, would it?Let them go ahead and do it, it will show the country (and the international press) that they are just animals and lose them a lot of sympathy Agreed. Its only a matter of time until they show what they are really made of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) How WACO are these people to do something like this. Makes me really wonder what is in the next mass plan they will have. Edited March 16, 2010 by saintofsilence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKASA Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I would agree that is an abuse of the code of medical conduct to draw blood for non medical or research reasons. Dumb I am sure that some symbolic substitute is available if they really feel a show is necessary, but I personally have never found lettering or defacing others property a meaningful statement. Drama is a part of street actions and they are not the first group in the world with a dim wit idea and I am also pretty sure they won't be the last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Live updates and photos from the blood donation: Bangkok Red-shirt Rally - Live Updates - Tuesday, TUESDAY MARCH 16, 2010 http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Bangkok-Red-...da-t347906.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who, me ? Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 How much are those people paid to give their blood? I believe they don't do it just for the sake of "democracy" and that there must be incentive, same as they are paid to join the rally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I would agree that is an abuse of the code of medical conduct to draw blood for non medical or research reasons. Dumb I am sure that some symbolic substitute is available if they really feel a show is necessary, but I personally have never found lettering or defacing others property a meaningful statement. Drama is a part of street actions and they are not the first group in the world with a dim wit idea and I am also pretty sure they won't be the last. Agree, nothing is going to change by splashing blood around, except to take the already low credibility of the thaksin / red shirt mob down a few more notches. Also interesting to note: - There has been no reaction from the paymaster - does that mean he agrees with this idea? Surely if he has any concern for the personal safety and health of his red shirt mob then he would have already put a stop to this crazy idea. - The red shirts never seem to learn that many Thais from all walks of life agree that change is needed, more equitable spread of wealth, more equitable education and opportunites for all Thais, etc., etc. Yelling, spreading hatred etc., is never going to achieve these goals. They never seem to understand that logical structured discussion might get a few ears. Edited March 16, 2010 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 The instigators of this blood giving campaign need to be charged with every possible charge available and locked up for as long as possible , Any governments that see this and still allow Thaksin in there countries are just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 This 11-year-old boy from Bangkok was one of the first people to donate 10cc of blood in response to the call by UDD leaders. -- thaivisa.com 2010-03-16 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Now they are sucking blood out of children. Disgusting, how low will these people stoop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I would agree that is an abuse of the code of medical conduct to draw blood for non medical or research reasons. Dumb I am sure that some symbolic substitute is available if they really feel a show is necessary, but I personally have never found lettering or defacing others property a meaningful statement. Drama is a part of street actions and they are not the first group in the world with a dim wit idea and I am also pretty sure they won't be the last. Agree, nothing is going to change by splashing blood around, except to take the already low credibility of the thaksin / red shirt mob down a few more notches. Also interesting to note: - There has been no reaction from the paymaster - does that mean he agrees with this idea? Surely if he has any concern for the personal safety and health of his red shirt mob then he would have already put a stop to this crazy idea. - The red shirts never seem to learn that logical structured discussion might get a few ears. This plan didn't come overnight, with everything prepared, donated and all. The paymaster knew this already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 This 11-year-old boy from Bangkok was one of the first people to donate 10cc of blood in response to the call by UDD leaders. -- thaivisa.com 2010-03-16 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Now they are sucking blood out of children. Disgusting, how low will these people stoop? Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who, me ? Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 ^ Disgusting , shocking, revolting......How can those so called democracy lovers can do something that barbaric??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintofsilence Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 The David Koresh of the Red Shirts speaks and followers just follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) This 11-year-old boy from Bangkok was one of the first people to donate 10cc of blood in response to the call by UDD leaders. -- thaivisa.com 2010-03-16 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Now they are sucking blood out of children. Disgusting, how low will these people stoop? A much deserved <deleted>!?!? I thought you had to be above a certain age before blood banks (ones with legitimate, benifical purpose) permitted you to give blood? Dangerous nonsense such as this highlights how primitive the leaders are. Shame on that doctor in the photos for getting involved. Edited March 16, 2010 by Insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 More pictures of the blood donations in our picture thread! http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=3419093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 "This is from the American news aggregator website farkdotcom:Thai protesters to spill blood on the steps of parliament. Fark: They'll be spilling their own blood. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the very definition of "doing it wrong" link: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03...m?section=world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carib Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Like I already said, wait till it hits the international press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dttk0009 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Guys, it's .01L (10ml). Pretty dam_n insignificant. You probably lose more during an operation on your wisdom teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Children first! Disgusting. Leave children out of politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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