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[searchingforlikeminded]

the only thing that seperates the inside, the self, the only thing that defines it, is the outside, and awareness. without awarness there would be no self. and without and outside there would be no within. but why does this not work the other way around? the inside does not define what is out. maybe in order to have the preception of sensation, of reality as we see it, there must be a blank slate for it to go on. in order to be aware of it, we must have something within us that is not aware, that is empty. maybe that is the way open mindedness works. if we clog our brain with too many concrete things, facts we depend too much on, if we are so certain of our veiw of reality there is no more room to expand your ideas. maybe that proves how important the seasons are, in creating change, in creating inteligence, by catching you offgard, by forcing you to adapt. "To be technically precise, we do not know so much as we feel." to feel and to know are often presented as opposites, to define eachother, when infact they are the same. / maybe there is a creative void in which conscieness operates, to contrast it's sensations. it's b/c of this creative viod we can process our senses, we can evolve. why is it that we stabalize ourselve with the outside, we veiw the outside as reality, and the inside not as concrete. "The “I” is the universe itself. It feels like me because it is concentrated inside my head."

time exists because of the intervals between events. because of memory, b/c there are events and not event. awareness is what creates time, what manifests it as an idea. the idea of something "happening" is something changing. something must have change in-order for something to have "happened". and the whole idea of perception and awareness revolves around change. b/c without change, the would be no reference point, no way to compare one thing to the other, and awareness would be impossible. therefore awareness is time, and vise versa. change is awareness and change is time. this consciousness is somehow relative to gravity or acceleration. time is relative to speed, but they seem to be connected. the speed of light. heat. energy in it's purest form. light, heat is the first consciousness. b/c it went somewhere, point a to b. and in that created an event. maybe acting a certain way, under certain conditions, is not a law of nature but always a choice, that is what creates randomness. that is why randomness is no important. and i in a million times, light makes a different choice, and reacts in a different way. change is awareness is time.

[Svenn]

time exists because of the intervals between events. because of memory

This is one of the great paradoxes of the structure of human consciousness. I do not know the answer. The recognition of time is, neurologically speaking, the recollection and comparison of memories to present experiences. A dog moves and time flows only when a memory of where a dog once was is compared to a present perception of where it is. If someone had memory failure to such a degree that he could not recall what his perceptions were even a split second after they happened, what would his mind be like?

Whenever we recognize time, we do so in the present, in the now. The universe is fundamentally unchanging and change and time are illusions...we know that intuitively but we cannot articulate how. Anyone have a thought?

[mauGR1]

everything is impermanent,except eternity(from a Sanskrit Poem)

[Hern]

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[sabaijai]

Would the OP like to make a point about Buddhism? Otherwise will have to close the topic.

[searchingforlikeminded]

no, i didn't use the actual word buddhism but it still concerns itself with the topic. just in a more abtract way.

thank you everyone for the comments. i am glad you understood what i mentioned of time. so in a sence, there is no past or future, only a present and the ability to remember and to expect. but paradoxically, the universe seems to be centered on chaos and change, or atleast this defines our own consciousness.

[Svenn]

no, i didn't use the actual word buddhism but it still concerns itself with the topic. just in a more abtract way.

I agree, your thoughts clearly come from reading at least some Buddhist/Vedic texts on the matter. I believe many people mistake Buddha's admonition of metaphysical pondering in the Malunkyaputta Sutta to mean all philosophical inquiries are fruitless.

[camerata]

so in a sence, there is no past or future, only a present and the ability to remember and to expect.

You'll hear that a lot in Buddhism - the past is just memories and the future is fantasy. Better to live in the present moment and be really alive than live in a semi-zombie state.

but paradoxically, the universe seems to be centered on chaos and change, or atleast this defines our own consciousness.

From the Buddhist point of view, everything is impermanent, so perhaps this is reflected in the continual chaos and change in the universe.