Deposed Thai Premier Thaksin Now In Montenegro

[LaoPo]

The focus of this thread has to do with Montenegro and those such as Thaksin and many of his types that post here who may be agents of foreign governments. Thaksin certain is one.

I know the focus of this thread is Montenegro; you started talking about the US, Turkey and the possible membership of Turkey to the EU, remember ?

It seems you're getting a bit paranoid, talking about foreign agents and such Publicus

LaoPo

[animatic]

The focus of this thread has to do with Montenegro and those such as Thaksin and many of his types that post here who may be agents of foreign governments. Thaksin certain is one.

I know the focus of this thread is Montenegro; you started talking about the US, Turkey and the possible membership of Turkey to the EU, remember ?

It seems you're getting a bit paranoid, talking about foreign agents and such Publicus

LaoPo

If you find anyone showing unconditional support for any government;

you have found:

Someone too old and tired to care.

Someone indoctrinated during a past war.

Someone too stump stupid to form an opinion.

or

Someone willing to say it for profit.

If you find anyone showing unconditional support for any government;

you have found:

Someone too old and tired to care.

Someone indoctrinated during a past war.

Someone too stump stupid to form an opinion.

or

Someone willing to say it for profit.

If you find anyone showing unconditional support for any government;

you have found:

Someone too old and tired to care.

Someone indoctrinated during a past war.

Someone too stump stupid to form an opinion.

or

Someone willing to say it for profit.

If you find anyone showing unconditional support for any government;

you have found:

Someone too old and tired to care.

Someone indoctrinated during a past war.

Someone too stump stupid to form an opinion.

or

Someone willing to say it for profit.

[Siam Simon]

If you have bought the Thaksin PR campaign in Montenegro whole cloth and in total.

Then you can only expect we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas totally.

Either you work for him, or you are a victim of his Perception Managment of

his international image, and his take on this civil war he is financing.

He needed to prep the ground for his new homes/passports well,

so that the truth was swamped out by his image he needs to project.

Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you sympathy for a time.

Oh dear, Ralph. Getting excited about yourself again, eh? Bought a new tank today did you? Managed to shoot the impossible with a (modified, of course) grunt rifle again?

"we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas"..... forum tag team bullies at it again. Pathetic.

Edited April 18, 2010 by Siam Simon

[JRinger]

Here's the latest news from the village in Isaan:

Local drivers are being offered 4,500 - 6,000 Baht per truckload of people to go to Bangkok all clad in red shirts..

Edited April 18, 2010 by JRinger

[animatic]

If you have bought the Thaksin PR campaign in Montenegro whole cloth and in total.

Then you can only expect we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas totally.

Either you work for him, or you are a victim of his Perception Managment of

his international image, and his take on this civil war he is financing.

He needed to prep the ground for his new homes/passports well,

so that the truth was swamped out by his image he needs to project.

Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you sympathy for a time.

Oh dear, Ralph. Getting excited about yourself again, eh? Bought a new tank today did you? Managed to shoot the impossible with a (modified, of course) grunt rifle again?

"we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas"..... forum tag team bullies at it again. Pathetic.

Ad hominem attack tag teams at work.

Perception Managment round 2:

Diminish those who are disputing succesfully your storyline

that the client wants you to make the world believe is the truth.

Sorry no sale.

[steveromagnino]

Here's the latest news from the village in Isaan:

Local drivers are being offered 4,500 - 6,000 Baht per truckload of people to go to Bangkok all clad in red shirts..

Do they also have to wear pants, or just shirts only?

Hmmm, I see an option cheaper than Nana Plaza here....... ;-)

[grandpops]

I think the post title says so much about Thailand.

It couldn't just have been Deposed Thai Premier now in Montenegro as they (PAD) have deposed so many recently that you just wouldn't know which one.

Who knows, we might be talking about Deposed Mark soon.

Why isn't parliament sitting? Too busy hiding in army barracks to get anything going.

[yoshiwara]

I think the post title says so much about Thailand.

It couldn't just have been Deposed Thai Premier now in Montenegro as they (PAD) have deposed so many recently that you just wouldn't know which one.

Who knows, we might be talking about Deposed Mark soon.

Why isn't parliament sitting? Too busy hiding in army barracks to get anything going.

Running hither and thither to plug the pro-Thaksin dyke.

Tomorrow no doubt writing that its nothing to do with him.

You have already said in another thread that lying is OK.

As if being a Thaksin apologist you had any choice.

[Publicus]

I think the post title says so much about Thailand.

It couldn't just have been Deposed Thai Premier now in Montenegro as they (PAD) have deposed so many recently that you just wouldn't know which one.

Who knows, we might be talking about Deposed Mark soon.

Why isn't parliament sitting? Too busy hiding in army barracks to get anything going.

Running hither and thither to plug the pro-Thaksin dyke.

Tomorrow no doubt writing that its nothing to do with him.

You have already said in another thread that lying is OK.

As if being a Thaksin apologist you had any choice.

Zap! That's a swift kick to the posterior.

[Sisaketmike]

I just hope EU will block Montenegro from joining EU. Another third world country.

Sorry, I never liked to see or hear 'third world country'. Could you please tell us where the first and second world these days is?

I guess it's just a matter of time that Mr. Thaksin becomes an EU citizen bribing with EUROS. Even Romania and Bulgaria made it. Are these second, third or 3rd world countries?

But nobody seems to understand that the more developed countries have to pay for them too, which will, or let's say already destroyed many social systems and other damages.

Thaksin lied about many things, under 'normal' circumstances it would have been impossible for him to become PM in Thailand. But he did what he was always doing. Changing documents, stealing money from the poors......

Only Thais can get a PM position and after all he's actually Chinese. Hope he isn't burning down his hotel room, when they come to pick him up to bring him to Thailand. That would be so easy, other countries are doing that too, why not Thailand. Mai Phenn Rai mentality.

[Sisaketmike]

Montenegro kindly take notice as the US continues to support Turkey for membership of the EU...............

As if Europe will let the US decide whether Turkey will end up in the EU or not. They wish...

For the time being most EU countries are not in a hurry to let a country like Turkey join the EU. The dangers are multiple and it will be a long time before Turkey can adapt to the rules in the EU.

Apart from that, there is quite a large resistance within Turkey itself to join the EU. Proud people who say they can manage themselves but their economy would benefit enormously but if the EU will remains to be seen.

Turkey is not Montenegro and vv.

LaoPo

How could Turkey be a member of the EU? You pass the Bosporus and you're in Asia. Then it would be an ASIAN/EUROPEAN country, or what? All they want is the currency called EURO. Try to buy a Mercedes with Turkish Lira........

Anyways, lots of Euros are already being delivered to Turkey, by people who're working in European countries, or in Asylum. Call it what you want.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Sisaketmike

[Sisaketmike]

Here's the latest news from the village in Isaan:

Local drivers are being offered 4,500 - 6,000 Baht per truckload of people to go to Bangkok all clad in red shirts..

Do they also have to wear pants, or just shirts only?

Hmmm, I see an option cheaper than Nana Plaza here....... ;-)

Where's the village in Isan? Must be your wife's Muubaan. From now on they'll also have to wear red socks, that's the breaking news for tomorrow and yesterday.

P.S. Are you a local driver, some guys wanna go there, where do you live? Just buying some red stuff.

[Siam Simon]

I think the post title says so much about Thailand.

It couldn't just have been Deposed Thai Premier now in Montenegro as they (PAD) have deposed so many recently that you just wouldn't know which one.

Who knows, we might be talking about Deposed Mark soon.

Why isn't parliament sitting? Too busy hiding in army barracks to get anything going.

Running hither and thither to plug the pro-Thaksin dyke.

Tomorrow no doubt writing that its nothing to do with him.

You have already said in another thread that lying is OK.

As if being a Thaksin apologist you had any choice.

Zap! That's a swift kick to the posterior.

Nope. It's a swift re-hash of his previous 500 posts.

[Siam Simon]

If you have bought the Thaksin PR campaign in Montenegro whole cloth and in total.

Then you can only expect we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas totally.

Either you work for him, or you are a victim of his Perception Managment of

his international image, and his take on this civil war he is financing.

He needed to prep the ground for his new homes/passports well,

so that the truth was swamped out by his image he needs to project.

Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you sympathy for a time.

Oh dear, Ralph. Getting excited about yourself again, eh? Bought a new tank today did you? Managed to shoot the impossible with a (modified, of course) grunt rifle again?

"we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas"..... forum tag team bullies at it again. Pathetic.

Ad hominem attack tag teams at work.

Perception Managment round 2:

Diminish those who are disputing succesfully your storyline

that the client wants you to make the world believe is the truth.

Sorry no sale.

I don't do internet forum teamwork, Ralph. I post as an individual. Here is what you wrote: "we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas". I'm assuming you don't suffer from multiple personality disorder.

[Publicus]

If you have bought the Thaksin PR campaign in Montenegro whole cloth and in total.

Then you can only expect we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas totally.

Either you work for him, or you are a victim of his Perception Managment of

his international image, and his take on this civil war he is financing.

He needed to prep the ground for his new homes/passports well,

so that the truth was swamped out by his image he needs to project.

Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you sympathy for a time.

Oh dear, Ralph. Getting excited about yourself again, eh? Bought a new tank today did you? Managed to shoot the impossible with a (modified, of course) grunt rifle again?

"we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas"..... forum tag team bullies at it again. Pathetic.

Ad hominem attack tag teams at work.

Perception Managment round 2:

Diminish those who are disputing succesfully your storyline

that the client wants you to make the world believe is the truth.

Sorry no sale.

I don't do internet forum teamwork, Ralph. I post as an individual. Here is what you wrote: "we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas". I'm assuming you don't suffer from multiple personality disorder.

The poster's username is Animatic.

Broadly speaking, over time two 'camps' of dozens of posters in either camp evolve and emerge as is evidenced in this and any thread in these matters of Thaksin, the Redshirts, the army, the "elites", and of which camp supposedly advocates democracy in Thailand and who supposedly does not and so on. However, we can have camps without necessarily being 'campy' in the use of self-selected pet names for posters rather than their usernames. If you want to speak from the pov of Alice , that might be your choice, but this pet name business can't last long if one reads the posting rules.

BTW, being of a similar pov as yoshiwara I'd say his previous 500 posts have been pretty good and often particularly insightful and more than occasionally hard-hitting as in the one I'd commented on just above, Alice.

Edited April 19, 2010 by Publicus

[Siam Simon]

The poster's username is Animatic.

Broadly speaking, over time two 'camps' of dozens of posters in either camp evolve and emerge as is evidenced in this and any thread in these matters of Thaksin, the Redshirts, the army, the "elites", and of which camp supposedly advocates democracy in Thailand and who supposedly does not and so on. However, we can have camps without necessarily being 'campy' in the use of self-selected pet names for posters rather than their usernames. If you want to speak from the pov of Alice , that might be your choice, but this pet name business can't last long if one reads the posting rules.

BTW, being of a similar pov as yoshiwara I'd say his previous 500 posts have been pretty good and often particularly insightful and more than occasionally hard-hitting as in the one I'd commented on just above, Alice.

Broadly speaking, the pro Democrat posters have behaved like a pack of bullies, stooping to ever lower levels to stop contrary posters from contributing. Well, I don't mind a bit of name-calling and neither does Ralph (he certainly does enough of it ). You like Yoshiwara's posts because he is (hopefully) an amateur anti-Thaksin propagandist like yourself. I, and I'm sure more than a few others, consider his repetitive, one-sided and simplistic mantras (along with Ralph's posts) as merciful light relief on the News Clippings threads. Oh, no! I just became a Thaksin Apologist.

[animatic]

I just hope EU will block Montenegro from joining EU. Another third world country.

Sorry, I never liked to see or hear 'third world country'. Could you please tell us where the first and second world these days is?

I guess it's just a matter of time that Mr. Thaksin becomes an EU citizen bribing with EUROS. Even Romania and Bulgaria made it. Are these second, third or 3rd world countries?

But nobody seems to understand that the more developed countries have to pay for them too, which will, or let's say already destroyed many social systems and other damages.

Thaksin lied about many things, under 'normal' circumstances it would have been impossible for him to become PM in Thailand. But he did what he was always doing. Changing documents, stealing money from the poors......

Only Thais can get a PM position and after all he's actually Chinese. Hope he isn't burning down his hotel room, when they come to pick him up to bring him to Thailand. That would be so easy, other countries are doing that too, why not Thailand. Mai Phenn Rai mentality.

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/thir...d_countries.htm

Four Worlds

After World War II the world split into two large geopolitical blocs and spheres of influence with contrary views on government and the politically correct society:

1 - The bloc of democratic-industrial countries within the American influence sphere, the "First World".

2 - The Eastern bloc of the communist-socialist states, the "Second World".

3 - The remaining three-quarters of the world's population, states not aligned with either bloc were regarded as the "Third World."

4 - The term "Fourth World", coined in the early 1970s by Shuswap Chief George Manuel, refers to widely unknown nations (cultural entities) of indigenous peoples, "First Nations" living within or across national state boundaries.

First there was the three worlds model

....The origin of the terminology is unclear. In 1952 Alfred Sauvy, a French demographer, wrote an article in the French magazine L’Observateur

which ended by comparing the Third World with the Third Estate: “ce Tiers Monde ignoré, exploité, méprisé comme le Tiers État”

(this ignored Third World, exploited, scorned like the Third Estate). Other sources claim that Charles de Gaulle coined the term Third World,

maybe de Gaulle only has quoted Sauvy....

[yoshiwara]

The poster's username is Animatic.

Broadly speaking, over time two 'camps' of dozens of posters in either camp evolve and emerge as is evidenced in this and any thread in these matters of Thaksin, the Redshirts, the army, the "elites", and of which camp supposedly advocates democracy in Thailand and who supposedly does not and so on. However, we can have camps without necessarily being 'campy' in the use of self-selected pet names for posters rather than their usernames. If you want to speak from the pov of Alice , that might be your choice, but this pet name business can't last long if one reads the posting rules.

BTW, being of a similar pov as yoshiwara I'd say his previous 500 posts have been pretty good and often particularly insightful and more than occasionally hard-hitting as in the one I'd commented on just above, Alice.

Broadly speaking, the pro Democrat posters have behaved like a pack of bullies, stooping to ever lower levels to stop contrary posters from contributing. Well, I don't mind a bit of name-calling and neither does Ralph (he certainly does enough of it ). You like Yoshiwara's posts because he is (hopefully) an amateur anti-Thaksin propagandist like yourself. I, and I'm sure more than a few others, consider his repetitive, one-sided and simplistic mantras (along with Ralph's posts) as merciful light relief on the News Clippings threads. Oh, no! I just became a Thaksin Apologist.

You certainly did.

And with no assistance from me.

Not that you need any.

[animatic]

Oh dear, Ralph. Getting excited about yourself again, eh? Bought a new tank today did you? Managed to shoot the impossible with a (modified, of course) grunt rifle again?

"we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas"..... forum tag team bullies at it again. Pathetic.

Ad hominem attack tag teams at work.

Perception Managment round 2:

Diminish those who are disputing succesfully your storyline

that the client wants you to make the world believe is the truth.

Sorry no sale.

I don't do internet forum teamwork, Ralph. I post as an individual. Here is what you wrote: "we will thrash your mis-conceived ideas". I'm assuming you don't suffer from multiple personality disorder.

The poster's username is Animatic.

Broadly speaking, over time two 'camps' of dozens of posters in either camp evolve and emerge as is evidenced in this and any thread in these matters of Thaksin, the Redshirts, the army, the "elites", and of which camp supposedly advocates democracy in Thailand and who supposedly does not and so on. However, we can have camps without necessarily being 'campy' in the use of self-selected pet names for posters rather than their usernames. If you want to speak from the pov of Alice , that might be your choice, but this pet name business can't last long if one reads the posting rules.

BTW, being of a similar pov as yoshiwara I'd say his previous 500 posts have been pretty good and often particularly insightful and more than occasionally hard-hitting as in the one I'd commented on just above, Alice.

One of the hall marks of succesful Perception Management is to convince or lead a few 'regular people',

to actually back up their story being sold, by posting things that appeal to 2-3 individuals pet peaves

and 'creating a tie-in' they can then run with.

Also a major component is belittling or denigrating the more lucid posters that go counter to message.

And of course make it appear a heart felt individuals response....

The WE I used was for 'those repeatedly telling facts' in the face of repeated, short, sound-bite li, lies.

Not that I am part of any organized team effort. I am an individual angry at the lies I see repeated

to help this criminal control Thailand, or take revenge at losing control of Thailand.

By taking this particular revenge and making Thailands leaders react to him, he is controlling it from afar.

The same power rush of being in control, making people, a nation, move to his tune. Heady stuff for an egomaniac.

Of course those in an obvious organized Team Thaksin effort,

will try and make it SEEM that this is just individuals doing it...

Some don't bother to hide it , just throw out the propaganda concept on schedual.

While others try to appear as 'real people' and back up the storyline.

Of course this then attracts assorted real people to back it up.

So it is a mix of PR shills, true believers, clear sighted individuals, and people manipulated to believe one line or the other.

The grand attempted 'Rebranding of the Red Shirts', has been one of the harder fought Perception Management battles of late.

Even got through to CNN today. His team did a fine job in Montenegro though, as shown in this thread.

But it hasn't worked as well in places that actually matter in the bigger picture.

But Thaksin has shot himself in the foot so many times, it is a losing battle in the long run.

Maybe you believed a real truth, or maybe you have just been played by experts.

Edited April 20, 2010 by animatic

[Siam Simon]

One of the hall marks of succesful Perception Management is to convince or lead a few 'regular people',

to actually back up their story being sold, by posting things that appeal to 2-3 individuals pet peaves

and 'creating a tie-in' they can then run with.

Also a major component is belittling or denigrating the more lucid posters that go counter to message.

And of course make it appear a heart felt individuals response....

The WE I used was for 'those repeatedly telling facts' in the face of repeated short sound bite like lies.

Not that I am part of any organized team effort. I am an individual angry at the lies I see repeated

to help the criminal control Thailand, or take revenge at losing control of Thailand.

By taking this particular revenge and making Thailands leaders react to him, he is controlling it from afar.

The same power rush of being in control, making people, a nation, move to his tune. Heady stuff for an egomaniac.

Of course those in an obvious organized Team Thaksin effort,

will try and make it SEEM that this is just individuals doing it...

Some don't bother to hide it , just throw out the propaganda concept on schedual.

While others try to appear as 'real people' and back up the storyline.

Of course this then attracts assorted real people to back it up.

So it is a mix or PR shills, true believers and people manipulated to believe one line or the other.

The grand attempted 'Rebranding of the Red Shirts', has been one of the harder fought Perception Management battles of late.

Even got through to CNN today. His team did a fine job in Montenegro though, as shown in this thread.

But it hasn't worked as well in places that actually matter in the bigger picture.

But Thaksin has shot himself in the foot so many times, it is a losing battle in the long run.

Maybe you believed a real truth, or maybe you have just been played by experts.

Are you having a laugh or are you genuinely bonkers?

[animatic]

One of the hall marks of succesful Perception Management is to convince or lead a few 'regular people',

to actually back up their story being sold, by posting things that appeal to 2-3 individuals pet peaves

and 'creating a tie-in' they can then run with.

Also a major component is belittling or denigrating the more lucid posters that go counter to message.

And of course make it appear a heart felt individuals response....

The WE I used was for 'those repeatedly telling facts' in the face of repeated short sound bite like lies.

Not that I am part of any organized team effort. I am an individual angry at the lies I see repeated

to help the criminal control Thailand, or take revenge at losing control of Thailand.

By taking this particular revenge and making Thailands leaders react to him, he is controlling it from afar.

The same power rush of being in control, making people, a nation, move to his tune. Heady stuff for an egomaniac.

Of course those in an obvious organized Team Thaksin effort,

will try and make it SEEM that this is just individuals doing it...

Some don't bother to hide it , just throw out the propaganda concept on schedual.

While others try to appear as 'real people' and back up the storyline.

Of course this then attracts assorted real people to back it up.

So it is a mix or PR shills, true believers and people manipulated to believe one line or the other.

The grand attempted 'Rebranding of the Red Shirts', has been one of the harder fought Perception Management battles of late.

Even got through to CNN today. His team did a fine job in Montenegro though, as shown in this thread.

But it hasn't worked as well in places that actually matter in the bigger picture.

But Thaksin has shot himself in the foot so many times, it is a losing battle in the long run.

Maybe you believed a real truth, or maybe you have just been played by experts.

Are you having a laugh or are you genuinely bonkers?

Also a major component is belittling or denigrating the more lucid posters that go counter to message.

And of course make it appear a heart felt individuals response....

Your mileage does vary.

[Siam Simon]

One of the hall marks of succesful Perception Management is to convince or lead a few 'regular people',

to actually back up their story being sold, by posting things that appeal to 2-3 individuals pet peaves

and 'creating a tie-in' they can then run with.

Also a major component is belittling or denigrating the more lucid posters that go counter to message.

And of course make it appear a heart felt individuals response....

The WE I used was for 'those repeatedly telling facts' in the face of repeated short sound bite like lies.

Not that I am part of any organized team effort. I am an individual angry at the lies I see repeated

to help the criminal control Thailand, or take revenge at losing control of Thailand.

By taking this particular revenge and making Thailands leaders react to him, he is controlling it from afar.

The same power rush of being in control, making people, a nation, move to his tune. Heady stuff for an egomaniac.

Of course those in an obvious organized Team Thaksin effort,

will try and make it SEEM that this is just individuals doing it...

Some don't bother to hide it , just throw out the propaganda concept on schedual.

While others try to appear as 'real people' and back up the storyline.

Of course this then attracts assorted real people to back it up.

So it is a mix or PR shills, true believers and people manipulated to believe one line or the other.

The grand attempted 'Rebranding of the Red Shirts', has been one of the harder fought Perception Management battles of late.

Even got through to CNN today. His team did a fine job in Montenegro though, as shown in this thread.

But it hasn't worked as well in places that actually matter in the bigger picture.

But Thaksin has shot himself in the foot so many times, it is a losing battle in the long run.

Maybe you believed a real truth, or maybe you have just been played by experts.

Are you having a laugh or are you genuinely bonkers?

Also a major component is belittling or denigrating the more lucid posters that go counter to message.

And of course make it appear a heart felt individuals response....

Your mileage does vary.

You're weird.

[ozterix]

You're weird.

no, intelligent! can't say the same for you...

and don't bother responding i put you on ignore, what you rightly deserve

[Jai Dee]

Jai yen yen folks... enough of the flames.

Please keep the discussion civil and on-topic.

[Publicus]

Montenegro kindly take notice as the US continues to support Turkey for membership of the EU...............

As if Europe will let the US decide whether Turkey will end up in the EU or not. They wish...

For the time being most EU countries are not in a hurry to let a country like Turkey join the EU. The dangers are multiple and it will be a long time before Turkey can adapt to the rules in the EU.

Apart from that, there is quite a large resistance within Turkey itself to join the EU. Proud people who say they can manage themselves but their economy would benefit enormously but if the EU will remains to be seen.

Turkey is not Montenegro and vv.

LaoPo

How could Turkey be a member of the EU? You pass the Bosporus and you're in Asia. Then it would be an ASIAN/EUROPEAN country, or what? All they want is the currency called EURO. Try to buy a Mercedes with Turkish Lira........

Anyways, lots of Euros are already being delivered to Turkey, by people who're working in European countries, or in Asylum. Call it what you want.

Montenegro and Thaksin have their own particular problems relative to candidacy to EU membership as does Turkey (will we see Thaksin in Turkey anytime soon or eventually? With all due respect to the country, Thaksin's already a turkey but that wouldn't necessarily make him Turkish, would it?).

Montenegro is Balkan-Adriatic so geographically it's well within the orbit, or sphere of influence of the EU especially culturally to include political system and structure. Turkey under a comprehensive set of significant conditions could become a member state of the EU but only if many serious conditions were met. As you know and reference, there are "dangers" well recognized by Europeans to a Turkish membership of the EU that don't exist in Montenegro, perhaps chief among them is that Turkey shares its southern border with Syria and Iraq. As a prerequisite those two countries would need to become 'normal' states for Turkey to have a more viable position reletative to an EU membership candidacy.

Thaksin anyway is unable to relate to Muslims as evidenced by his heavy-handed and murderous policies in the southern provinces while he was PM. Even the insurgent Muslims of the three most stricken southern provinces self-identify primarily as southeast Asian and have little if any connection to or interest in the culture and societies of the Arab Muslim world. In the Muslim province of Satun the population are closed to the insurgent militants, historically have relocated from places such as Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka and have a high regard of Abhisit, his government and policies towards the southern Muslim provinces.

Edited April 21, 2010 by Publicus

[ThaksinKharma]

Ex-Thai PM Thaksin spotted in Montenegro

04/26/2010 | 08:37 PM

GMA News

PODGORICA, Montenegro — Former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says his supporters protesting in Bangkok "just fight for democracy."

Thaksin said in Montenegro Monday that he is in contact with the demonstrators who have been camped in a shopping area of the Thai capital for 24 days.

Thaksin says that "we just fight for democracy, let them fight for democracy and justice."

Thaksin is a billionaire businessman who fled Thailand in 2008 on a conflict of interest charge. He has acquired a Montenegrin passport.

Thaksin says that "this is my country ... I am now Montenegrin." He says he is looking for investment opportunities in the Adriatic country.

Britain, Germany and other states have barred Thaksin, but Montenegro says there is no international warrant for his arrest.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/189437/ex-thai...d-in-montenegro

Edited April 27, 2010 by ThaksinKharma

[seri thai]

Jai yen yen folks... enough of the flames.

Please keep the discussion civil and on-topic.

Is it time for a photo competition then?

A friend of mine sent me this picture from the moon this morning. As you can see Thaksin is in perfect health and not dead as some people have tried to suggest. I understand he had a meeting with the lunar president and is being co-opted by the lunar government to increase lunar wealth and social welfare amongst lunar citizens. I understand Mr Thaksin has also applied for a lunar passport. A spokesman for the lunar government said that the lunar people have no problem with Mr Thaksin and since the moon has no extradition treaty with Thailand he is welcome to stay as long as he wishes.

There have been some scurillous rumours put out by persons of influence that this picture has some strange features and may have been artificially manipulated. The smile on his face appears to be healthy and incongruous. The shadows on the lunar lanscape indicate that the picture may really have been taken in the NASA museum or at the recently opened "Space Cadet" experience in LunaWorld, Vanuatu. These suggestions have been hotly denied by Thaksin supporters.

[ThaksinKharma]

Is it time for a photo competition then?

A friend of mine sent me this picture from the moon this morning. As you can see Thaksin is in perfect health and not dead as some people have tried to suggest. I understand he had a meeting with the lunar president and is being co-opted by the lunar government to increase lunar wealth and social welfare amongst lunar citizens. I understand Mr Thaksin has also applied for a lunar passport. A spokesman for the lunar government said that the lunar people have no problem with Mr Thaksin and since the moon has no extradition treaty with Thailand he is welcome to stay as long as he wishes.

There have been some scurillous rumours put out by persons of influence that this picture has some strange features and may have been artificially manipulated. The smile on his face appears to be healthy and incongruous. The shadows on the lunar lanscape indicate that the picture may really have been taken in the NASA museum or at the recently opened "Space Cadet" experience in LunaWorld, Vanuatu. These suggestions have been hotly denied by Thaksin supporters.

That's odd, because a friend of mine sent me this picture from Montenegro. It was a display photo in front of a box and in the photo, he didn't look too good.

[seri thai]

Ex-Thai PM Thaksin spotted in Montenegro

04/26/2010 | 08:37 PM

GMA News

PODGORICA, Montenegro — Former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra says his supporters protesting in Bangkok "just fight for democracy."

Thaksin said in Montenegro Monday that he is in contact with the demonstrators who have been camped in a shopping area of the Thai capital for 24 days.

Thaksin says that "we just fight for democracy, let them fight for democracy and justice."

Thaksin is a billionaire businessman who fled Thailand in 2008 on a conflict of interest charge. He has acquired a Montenegrin passport.

Thaksin says that "this is my country ... I am now Montenegrin." He says he is looking for investment opportunities in the Adriatic country.

Britain, Germany and other states have barred Thaksin, but Montenegro says there is no international warrant for his arrest.

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/189437/ex-thai...d-in-montenegro

A home form home then?:

Corruption Perception Index

Corruption is perceived as significant. Montenegro ranks 85th out of 179 countries in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index for 2008. There is a widespread perception of government corruption, particularly in the executive and judicial branches and especially with regard to the privatization of state-owned firms. Conflict-of-interest legislation requiring the disclosure of government officials’ salaries and property has not been fully implemented, and many officials refuse to comply. Organized crime, especially the smuggling of gasoline and cigarettes, is well established. In the past two years, Montenegro has implemented 16 of 24 compulsory anti-corruption recommendations adopted by the Council of Europe Group of States (GRECO).

http://www.heritage.org/index/country/montenegro

Today, the Montenegrin government faces a different set of allegations. Nebojsa Medojevic, along with many other opposition politicians, has repeatedly accused high-ranking government figures of corruption and nepotism. Criticism relates in particular to privatisation deals, the business of Milo Djukanovic's brother Aco Djukanovic, and the origin of the capital that Milo Djukanovic has invested in Prva Crnogorska Banka.

Most recently, on 6 September 2007, Medojevic told the news agency MINA that the Montenegrin state and its society is taken captive "by private connections of the highest government circles and organised criminals". He maintains that

"they should reform the police and clean it of criminal members who possess property worth millions without documentation; to clean the judiciary of judges who make decisions under instruction from the centres of organised crime and protect them from prosecution."

http://www.esiweb.org/index.php?lang=en&id=270

[Publicus]

Implementation by Montenegro of 16 of 24 GRECO mandatory corruption controls of risky business isn't bad, but it just isn't good enough for Princeton now is it Joel? Montenegro is content to do risky business with Thaksin but the heat already is on the full Monty government about Thaksin having to disconnect from any overthrow of the Thai state. This Thaksin-Montenegro business can give us some indication of what the EU is made of as the Council of Europe continues to consider Montenegro"s curently pending submission to become a candidate for EU membership. If Montenegro might be declared to be in good standing and on track to be admitted to the EU, perhaps Thaksin can be elected a MEP from the full Monty and wreck Europe too.