Redshirt Protesters Force Immigration Bureau HQ To Close

[tb86]

These iddiots are going to far it is time they were charged and arrested. This is getting rediculous. i have no problem with rallies, even sit ins to a certain extent but disruption of the country is going to far how is cowtowing to a few tens of thousands of radical terrorist protesters democracy ot of a country of 60 some million.

The government also ought to charge Mr. T with sedition, terrorism and conspiracy and put out an international warrent for his arrest with interpol and any and all other international police organizations.

Were you as vocal when the Yellow shirts who brought the current government to power shut down the Airport. I would say that was major inconvenience compared to this. And Kasit the current Foreign minister was at the airport rooting them on. .

Not your business not your country we are just visitors- -I am sure there is plenty to bitch about in your home country alsobitch about your own country

The whole not your buisness comment is just plain stupid.... Not my buisness, i happen to disagree, my life is affected every day, my buisness suffers, my family looses money hate to break it too you it has serious ramifications for all of us currently living our lives in this country

[toybits]

Yes! But then, that would be double standard wouldn't it?

LOL... This has everything to do with the yellows and what they did at the airport. Watch uddthailand.com. The fact that the yellows seized the airport plays perfectly into the propaganda of a double standard for the elite and the commoners. The yellows were allowed to seize the airport, but they want to arrest us for sitting in an intersection...

As far as the yellows being brought to justice, they made one of the main instigators the Foreign Minister! Do you really think he is gong to jail??? Don't take it from me. New York Times today:

None of the yellow shirts have been convicted for shutting down the airport, including Kasit Piromya, the current foreign minister who took part and reportedly said the protest was “a lot of fun.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/world/as....html?ref=world

This is all one big joke. They should have brought in the tear gas and fire hoses at the airport from hour one and they should have done the same thing here with the reds. The fact that they failed to act on the yellows will simply fuel the resentment among UDD supporters if they act on the reds... What a mess.

Edited April 5, 2010 by toybits

[SabaiBKK]

Look, jdinasia the twister, is back!

Surely the PAD have reported to the police the next day, but they have been free ever since and their court cases basically "frozen", just like the "donation" case against the Democrat party. It's not going anywhere. People want justice. And if people don't get justice, these things happen. How about we get rid of the double standards? I'm sure that will improve things a lot.

Like there was no double standards under thaksin...yeah right. thaksin has done nothing but robbing thailand blind and put the poor in awe with smoke and mirrors.

Jatuporn and his thugs want nothing but bringing back a dictator to further their own agendas... they dont care about the poor, they dont care about justice, they care about elections just to whitewash thaksin and give him an amnesty ...

and dont get me started on rubbish like the 30 baht healthcare or the 1997 crisis recovery because anyone with more that one braincell knows that it is the chuan government who did all the work for recovery and that the 30 baht healthcare cannot be paid for .... well it could have been sustainable if thaksin did not evade taxes on the shincorps sale to themasek... 12 billion baht of taxes would have done the trick. and needless to say that thaksin would still be in power.

[moo9]

Arisman, Kwanchai, Suporn (E-saan Rambo) leading the attack.

All criminals, deserve to sit in jail due to the incidents at Pattaya and many other issues.

This is getting worse as they are getting desperate. Well, how nice was the period under the military government, quiet, and life went on as normal!

Do the yellow shirt criminals deserve to be in jail for laying siege to the airport?

1) Typical red diversionary tactic --- this is not about the PAD

2) When the arrest warrants went out for the PAD leadership they reported the next day to the police.

3) The court case against the PAD leadership is ongoing (unlike the Red fearless leader they are actually participating in the legal process, not hiding from it)

4) Arisman himself stated he would turn himself in on Apr1 when his last warrant was issued. That time has flown and he still is on the street.

So --- to sum up --- please feel free to address the issues of THIS thread!

LOL... This has everything to do with the yellows and what they did at the airport. Watch uddthailand.com. The fact that the yellows seized the airport plays perfectly into the propaganda of a double standard for the elite and the commoners. The yellows were allowed to seize the airport, but they want to arrest us for sitting in an intersection...

As far as the yellows being brought to justice, they made one of the main instigators the Foreign Minister! Do you really think he is gong to jail??? Don't take it from me. New York Times today:

None of the yellow shirts have been convicted for shutting down the airport, including Kasit Piromya, the current foreign minister who took part and reportedly said the protest was “a lot of fun.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/world/as....html?ref=world

This is all one big joke. They should have brought in the tear gas and fire hoses at the airport from hour one and they should have done the same thing here with the reds.

Not Thai style though. I agree, but Thais love to sit out problems, threatening until one side loses the face. At that stage stage however it can become very cruel and violent. I will never understand that really, why there is a Police / Army / Security Forces and they are not allowed to wear weapons. What can they do against storming Reds? They even would not use water canons or tear gas. This all has nothing to do anymore with the right to demonstrate. It is outrageous what some of the red leaders say on stage. They want to be democratic? For quite some expressions you would be in jail or heavily fined in adult democracies, not mentioning blocking the heart of the capital for 2 weekends!

[dobadoy]

Arisman, Kwanchai, Suporn (E-saan Rambo) leading the attack.

All criminals, deserve to sit in jail due to the incidents at Pattaya and many other issues.

This is getting worse as they are getting desperate. Well, how nice was the period under the military government, quiet, and life went on as normal!

Do the yellow shirt criminals deserve to be in jail for laying siege to the airport?

1) Typical red diversionary tactic --- this is not about the PAD

2) When the arrest warrants went out for the PAD leadership they reported the next day to the police.

3) The court case against the PAD leadership is ongoing (unlike the Red fearless leader they are actually participating in the legal process, not hiding from it)

4) Arisman himself stated he would turn himself in on Apr1 when his last warrant was issued. That time has flown and he still is on the street.

So --- to sum up --- please feel free to address the issues of THIS thread!

LOL... This has everything to do with the yellows and what they did at the airport. Watch uddthailand.com. The fact that the yellows seized the airport plays perfectly into the propaganda of a double standard for the elite and the commoners. The yellows were allowed to seize the airport, but they want to arrest us for sitting in an intersection...

As far as the yellows being brought to justice, they made one of the main instigators the Foreign Minister! Do you really think he is gong to jail??? Don't take it from me. New York Times today:

None of the yellow shirts have been convicted for shutting down the airport, including Kasit Piromya, the current foreign minister who took part and reportedly said the protest was “a lot of fun.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/world/as....html?ref=world

This is all one big joke. They should have brought in the tear gas and fire hoses at the airport from hour one and they should have done the same thing here with the reds. The fact that they failed to act on the yellows will simply fuel the resentment among UDD supporters if they act on the reds... What a mess.

maybe...but maybe not as much as it will fuel resentment if the gov't don't do anything this time. Everyone know why they didn't do it last time - they didn't have the phisyical means to do so, nt becasue of tolerance or worry about loss of life.

[pimay11]

These iddiots are going to far it is time they were charged and arrested. This is getting rediculous. i have no problem with rallies, even sit ins to a certain extent but disruption of the country is going to far how is cowtowing to a few tens of thousands of radical terrorist protesters democracy ot of a country of 60 some million.

The government also ought to charge Mr. T with sedition, terrorism and conspiracy and put out an international warrent for his arrest with interpol and any and all other international police organizations.

It looks as if you like the way democracy works, as long as it doesn't affect your circles. But would you like Thailand to be like Burma. Or are you just another angry american..?

"Angry American"? Do I detect a little racism here perhaps? Why not angry German, Aussi, Brit, Itilian, Greek, ect? Shame on you my friend.

Was just curious ... hoe is calling someone an angry American racist?

Maybe I missed or am missing something here ....

This is not tongue in cheek like 99% of my other post, someone

please clarify this for

Thanks

LL

I will clarify as it was my post> I was referring to the statement by C3C4 "are you just another anger American" which has been verified by his subsequnt post "Funny to read how a lot of retired old men, angry americans with their terrorist laws and Abisit fans seemes to think this is just something that has to be stopped - so they can go on doing - what ever". I don't know why he dislikes and singles out Americans and I don't give a hoot. Just making a point.

[kuffki]

anyway, not yet the airports

bad luck for those which want to extend their visas today...or good luck for those who are to late anyway

Do not jinx it about the airport

[rainman]

well it could have been sustainable if thaksin did not evade taxes on the shincorps sale to themasek... 12 billion baht of taxes would have done the trick. and needless to say that thaksin would still be in power.

Uhhh, no. Thaksin wasn't ousted about the Shincorp sale. This is about something very different. But few people here know that, I guess.

[Wolfie]

hmmmm if I remember correct it was the yellow shirts and Abhisits ppl which made all Airports in Thailand shut down.....let me know when I am wrong, but whats the difference in red and yellow shirt rallies yet?

Abhisit came to power after weeks of rallies in Bkk, if this is Thaistyle so be it but same rights for everybody then.

Guess we will see much more red shirts when Songkran starts

I'd go look back over some older news threads if i were you, Abhisit was very outspoken and against the Airport closure... its very well documented.

But just so you can understand it, i will spell it out for you "The Democrat Party is not the same thing as PAD" - infact PAD have since set up their own political party - New Politics Party or something like that (i'm not 100% on the name, im sure someone will correct me if i am wrong) - Not that i think PAD will get much support as a Political party.

[thaibkk]

free visa extentions for a year for everybody would sound good, right ?

[molsey]

I was there this morning just before 10am for my 90 day reporting, and parked the car directly opposite the entrance on the wide approach road in. Dunno why I didn't fancy driving down to the carparks, but glad I didn't now....

As, stupidly, there is no footlink straight across here, you have to walk around, (the road approach), and there was a lot of commotion at the actual entrance. Police everywhere, lots of people leaving, and others erecting mobile crowd barriers.

I wasn't sure if they were expecting a bigwig, or the redshirts, but headed on in against the flow of folk in any case.

Wow, first time for 90 days there, and total chaos. Seems like half the staff were missing. One girl was sitting playing computer games in a side office on the way into the room especially allocated for the 90 day reports.... in full view.... no shame.... but I digress.

They have a sign there apologising for the delays due to testing of a computerised ticketing system, and there was a large crowd waiting already, maybe seventy or eighty people. I think that the counter was on 188 or thereabouts when I arrived, and I was no. 222, so I was expecting to be there for maybe 20 minutes or so, much like Suan Plu.

The place seemed to be getting fuller & fuller, maybe because of it being a holiday tomorrow; so much so, that the two girls at the desk started calling out numbers ahead of the computer, and asking the people to queue in a line in order, to try to speed things supposedly.

However, now full staff concentration was on collecting passports & forms, and there didn't seem to be much in the way of actually returning those completed ones to the people who had already submitted theirs.

This went all the way up to no. 270, when one of the staff announced that anyone from 271 onwards, would have to take a seat and wait, due to the large number of passports that they had.... T.I.T.

It was now 11.10 am, and I thought, anyone after ticket 270 will be coming 'back after lunch', or rather having to wait while the entire staff leave for their lunch at noon & don't return til 1pm.

And there were a lot of them! Maybe twice as many people packed into the room as when I got there.

My passport arrived back about 11.30, and when I walked out I and towards the exit that I had used to come in, I could see there were a few people kind of hanging back from there & some police.

As I got closer, you could hear the amplified rhetoric, and the policemen stationed there wouldn't let me out. There seemed to be a couple of hundred redshirts directly outside, and a couple of trucks with their speakers on.

One girl inside was kind enough to point me towards the North exit, and gesturing that I would have to make my way right around the building to get back to where I told her my car was parked.

So, off I went, and walked around the building, much to the surprise of some local workers, until I came to the actual barriers, police & redshirts. It was obvious that I wasn't getting through there, so had to retrace my steps a bit, and climb through some planters to get beyond those assembling right at the entrance.... then to the road beyond.

I'd estimate there were several hundreds there by now, and more arriving all the time on motorcycles & pickups.

All in all, I was lucky to get out, (with my reporting done), when I did, especially as my car was in the middle of where they were all parked / parking. Maybe another 30 minutes, and I'd have been hemmed in.... who knows!

I wonder about all the other people there that will definitely not have been so fortunate. Americans, Brits, Asians, Dutch, mothers & babies, young, old & some infirm..... and quite a few Thai's with bunches of passports in their hands that count on this as their livelihood.

One old dear spoke to me as we were stood waiting for the passports to be returned, she might have been Burmese, or Chinese, and was probably in her 70's. She was wondering why it was taking so long, and noted that she had to come today, as it was the last day for her, and as she said, "I'll be fined 5,000 Baht if I come tomorrow".

She didn't know that it was a holiday tomorrow, til I told her..... And neither of us knew what was outside when we were casually chatting.

She was number 248 I think....... I wonder how she got on?

[SabaiBKK]

As far as the yellows being brought to justice, they made one of the main instigators the Foreign Minister! Do you really think he is gong to jail??? Don't take it from me. New York Times today:

What utter bullshit !!! the foreign minister went on stage at the airport 1 time just to say that the ambiance was nice ... no subtle but far away from " instigating" the airport seizure ...

anyway red or yellow both have one common thing : a total lack of brains and they are just being used by the elite which ever side they are on.

[rainman]

hmmmm if I remember correct it was the yellow shirts and Abhisits ppl which made all Airports in Thailand shut down.....let me know when I am wrong, but whats the difference in red and yellow shirt rallies yet?

Abhisit came to power after weeks of rallies in Bkk, if this is Thaistyle so be it but same rights for everybody then.

Guess we will see much more red shirts when Songkran starts

I'd go look back over some older news threads if i were you, Abhisit was very outspoken and against the Airport closure... its very well documented.

But just so you can understand it, i will spell it out for you "The Democrat Party is not the same thing as PAD" - infact PAD have since set up their own political party - New Politics Party or something like that (i'm not 100% on the name, im sure someone will correct me if i am wrong) - Not that i think PAD will get much support as a Political party.

I'm sure he was completely against the airport closure. That's why he made Kasit, one of the PAD leaders, his Foreign Minister. And Abhisit's father serves on the board of 2 companies that financed the PAD airport seizure.

[SabaiBKK]

well it could have been sustainable if thaksin did not evade taxes on the shincorps sale to themasek... 12 billion baht of taxes would have done the trick. and needless to say that thaksin would still be in power.

Uhhh, no. Thaksin wasn't ousted about the Shincorp sale. This is about something very different. But few people here know that, I guess.

I know what you are referring to , but the shincorp sale gave the army the excuse to oust him with the support of the people. read between the lines as i know you can.

[Xonax]

I guess that the reds again will donate some blood, but this time in the non-clinical way.

If the government continue to allow the red shirts to violate the laws, they might as well step down and let the population vote for a new government.

[DickFarang]

I certainly hope this doesn't reflect some kind of anti-foreigner sentiment.

Would sure be ironic if it did!

I think it highly unlikely that more than 5% of the country bumkin redshirts even know that foreigners have to renew their re-entry permits or visas or whatever let alone consider that by their actions they might be inconveniencing a few farangs.

this looks like a typical example of painting local people (shirt colour doesnt matter) as stupid/dumm.

I guess most Thais do not know, “lo so” and “hi so” as well.

[gemini81]

These iddiots are going to far it is time they were charged and arrested. This is getting rediculous. i have no problem with rallies, even sit ins to a certain extent but disruption of the country is going to far how is cowtowing to a few tens of thousands of radical terrorist protesters democracy ot of a country of 60 some million.

The government also ought to charge Mr. T with sedition, terrorism and conspiracy and put out an international warrent for his arrest with interpol and any and all other international police organizations.

not to mention the bribes they receive. yet they put up signs that say, "stop corruption."

Its pretty clear, if they did respect (or have any regard) for foreigners then they wouldn't foce immigration to close. So I think their actions speak rather clearly.

It's time to stop this monkey business, literally: monkey business.

[Garry9999]

Nice excuse to close and knock off early really.

[SabaiBKK]

You guys crack me up, you all sound like you're in support of this government, do you not know the way they came to power. Perhaps you side with them cos you think this is elite versus lower classes (and as you are all so high class, you think you should take sides with the elite). Thailand was ruled by the King of Thailand until 1932, when the Royal house was overthrown by a military coup, and a democracy was formed, Until 1946, (when the present King took the thrown) the king had little to no power. The present King with the royal courtiers were able to push political buttons again, and shortly after had full control of the country again albeit in the guise of a democratically elected government. In 2001 they finally lost to a party that they had no control over (a real democracy) his name was Taksin. The Royalists and the elite decided it was best to leave it run its course (4yrs) and they would regain control, but it didn't happen and 2005 Taksin took a second term. So out came the knives and the mighty power of the elite was seen with the Military generals on side, and later the highest judges in the land. They crushed Taksin and all his cronies. Yes the charges against Taksin are real, yes he is a thief, no he should never be allowed to practice politics again, but this government was not fairly elected.

Many of the red shirts just want a fair election, and will happily accept the next PM, most are not pro Taksin, most even like Abasit, but he must be elected fairly.

Really if you think you're up there with the elite you are almost definitely dreaming, 10m-20m in the bank doesn't do it, we're working class to these guys, and we're not fit to clean their shoes, let alone run a country (reference to Taksin and his cronies)

Oh and by-the-way, Taksin was not the first corrupt polititian to run this country, they've been corrupt from the start. Keep the working classes working and as much money in my pocket as possible (hey - that should be their party slogan)

the way they came to power? lets see ....

thai rak thai is disbanded for electoral fraud, they morph into PPP samak is elected with massive vote buying , abhisit came second in number of votes , samak is demoted for a technicality , thy put somchai in his place , then PPP is disbanded for another electoral fraud ..... you won the election? The runner up abhisit .....

its like sports win a gold medal by doping , you get caught and disqualified , the runner up gets the medal .... sorry for simplifying but you have to use simple images for simple minds...

[ozzieman05]

Arisman, Kwanchai, Suporn (E-saan Rambo) leading the attack.

All criminals, deserve to sit in jail due to the incidents at Pattaya and many other issues.

This is getting worse as they are getting desperate. Well, how nice was the period under the military government, quiet, and life went on as normal!

Funny my wife said more or less the same thing last night, enough with the proxy governments and so forth just let the Generals rule openly oddly enough she said that right after she expressed happiness we are moving to the West soon she has had all she can take of her own country.. can't say I blame her watching the actions and inactions of late

It seems saddly this idea is spreading. listening to my Thai wife talking to her 2 friends on Saturday night she surprised me with

"Hope the army take over soon so we can live peaceably again"

[davee58]

Not your business not your country we are just visitors- -I am sure there is plenty to bitch about in your home country alsobitch about your own country

EXCUSE ME? not my country yes, but its my business they are affecting and i pay my taxes, i m not just a visitor. So far the red shirts useless call to reinstate a dictator and his mafia has cost my company ( a Thai company) a net loss of 7 million baht growing into 10.5 Million as I speak....

I'm sorry but i feel that i m rightly entitled to bitch about the mess the red shirts are bringing upon Thailand even thought I'm a farang.

I agree Sabai.

The "Not My Business...", "I am not important because I am just a visitor..." attitude is idiotic.

If anybody does feel it is not their business, it is easy enough to just stop posting in this forum.

If your views are unimportant why post in Large Bold letters

[traderjm]

I doubt that Siam Paragon being closed will affect the tourists that much. Every time I'm in Siam Paragon, I see maybe 30-40 Thais per 1 foreigner. And while I agree that the working class "red shirt" Thais do work there, I'm also sure that the 30-40 "high class" Thais per foreigner will also return whenever the red shirts leave to buy whatever they wanted to buy when it was closed. Or they will just go to another shopping center elsewhere in the city which is open and also owned by the same group, so it's not really money lost. If you've been to The Mall Bangkapi this past weekend, you'll notice there's about twice as many people there as usually.

From what I've read of your posts can't say I care at all for your tone or politics, but in the interest of being balanced my family and I were in Seacon Square yesterday and it was at least twice a busy as it normally would be on a Sunday line ups for everything my wife said it was the first time ever she had to queue up to have her hair cut... the open spaces were simply covered with people it was quite a sight and the increased traffic..... fun all the way round

[bkkjames]

Not your business not your country we are just visitors- -I am sure there is plenty to bitch about in your home country alsobitch about your own country

EXCUSE ME? not my country yes, but its my business they are affecting and i pay my taxes, i m not just a visitor. So far the red shirts useless call to reinstate a dictator and his mafia has cost my company ( a Thai company) a net loss of 7 million baht growing into 10.5 Million as I speak....

I'm sorry but i feel that i m rightly entitled to bitch about the mess the red shirts are bringing upon Thailand even thought I'm a farang.

I agree Sabai.

The "Not My Business...", "I am not important because I am just a visitor..." attitude is idiotic.

If anybody does feel it is not their business, it is easy enough to just stop posting in this forum.

If your views are unimportant why post in Large Bold letters

Agree. I have a Thai wife and son and it is my business. For Cap / others, what isn't anyone's business is the fact my business or not is not any of yours.

[aussimike]

Arisman, Kwanchai, Suporn (E-saan Rambo) leading the attack.

All criminals, deserve to sit in jail due to the incidents at Pattaya and many other issues.

This is getting worse as they are getting desperate. Well, how nice was the period under the military government, quiet, and life went on as normal!

ya this is really terrible - the destruction to govt property = closing airports - oh sorry - think I must have got them mixed up with the PAD yellow shirts -- we seems to be still waiting for the court cases of the leaders of this mob to be tried and convicted in court - but i guess if the military are backing u and certain MP were supporting u fully to the extent of addressing protesters at the airport its ok --- lets lock up all the poor folk in the country -- that might solve all problems - fact remains -- the only real solution to this is another election -- not one controlled by the armed forces -- but one that is for the people -

[JackSterling]

Wonderful...

[moo9]

Arisman, Kwanchai, Suporn (E-saan Rambo) leading the attack.

All criminals, deserve to sit in jail due to the incidents at Pattaya and many other issues.

This is getting worse as they are getting desperate. Well, how nice was the period under the military government, quiet, and life went on as normal!

Funny my wife said more or less the same thing last night, enough with the proxy governments and so forth just let the Generals rule openly oddly enough she said that right after she expressed happiness we are moving to the West soon she has had all she can take of her own country.. can't say I blame her watching the actions and inactions of late

It seems saddly this idea is spreading. listening to my Thai wife talking to her 2 friends on Saturday night she surprised me with

"Hope the army take over soon so we can live peaceably again"

Fully understand it (although not fully like it, but with every day it is becoming a more logical solution).

[ozzieman05]

Look, jdinasia the twister, is back!

Surely the PAD have reported to the police the next day, but they have been free ever since and their court cases basically "frozen", just like the "donation" case against the Democrat party. It's not going anywhere. People want justice. And if people don't get justice, these things happen. How about we get rid of the double standards? I'm sure that will improve things a lot.

Like there was no double standards under thaksin...yeah right. thaksin has done nothing but robbing thailand blind and put the poor in awe with smoke and mirrors.

Jatuporn and his thugs want nothing but bringing back a dictator to further their own agendas... they dont care about the poor, they dont care about justice, they care about elections just to whitewash thaksin and give him an amnesty ...

and dont get me started on rubbish like the 30 baht healthcare or the 1997 crisis recovery because anyone with more that one braincell knows that it is the chuan government who did all the work for recovery and that the 30 baht healthcare cannot be paid for .... well it could have been sustainable if thaksin did not evade taxes on the shincorps sale to themasek... 12 billion baht of taxes would have done the trick. and needless to say that thaksin would still be in power.

Please post your proof of this

is is it just your opinion

The law is know through out the western world to be slow as legal lawyers can appeal cases to drag them out

Now the red shirts would never do this would they

[moresomekl]

You guys crack me up, you all sound like you're in support of this government, do you not know the way they came to power. Perhaps you side with them cos you think this is elite versus lower classes (and as you are all so high class, you think you should take sides with the elite). Thailand was ruled by the King of Thailand until 1932, when the Royal house was overthrown by a military coup, and a democracy was formed, Until 1946, (when the present King took the thrown) the king had little to no power. The present King with the royal courtiers were able to push political buttons again, and shortly after had full control of the country again albeit in the guise of a democratically elected government. In 2001 they finally lost to a party that they had no control over (a real democracy) his name was Taksin. The Royalists and the elite decided it was best to leave it run its course (4yrs) and they would regain control, but it didn't happen and 2005 Taksin took a second term. So out came the knives and the mighty power of the elite was seen with the Military generals on side, and later the highest judges in the land. They crushed Taksin and all his cronies. Yes the charges against Taksin are real, yes he is a thief, no he should never be allowed to practice politics again, but this government was not fairly elected.

Many of the red shirts just want a fair election, and will happily accept the next PM, most are not pro Taksin, most even like Abasit, but he must be elected fairly.

Really if you think you're up there with the elite you are almost definitely dreaming, 10m-20m in the bank doesn't do it, we're working class to these guys, and we're not fit to clean their shoes, let alone run a country (reference to Taksin and his cronies)

Oh and by-the-way, Taksin was not the first corrupt polititian to run this country, they've been corrupt from the start. Keep the working classes working and as much money in my pocket as possible (hey - that should be their party slogan)

the way they came to power? lets see ....

thai rak thai is disbanded for electoral fraud, they morph into PPP samak is elected with massive vote buying , abhisit came second in number of votes , samak is demoted for a technicality , thy put somchai in his place , then PPP is disbanded for another electoral fraud ..... you won the election? The runner up abhisit .....

its like sports win a gold medal by doping , you get caught and disqualified , the runner up gets the medal .... sorry for simplifying but you have to use simple images for simple minds...

Samak was ousted for getting paid in cooking shows not for electoral fraud as far as i know

[aussimike]

These iddiots are going to far it is time they were charged and arrested. This is getting rediculous. i have no problem with rallies, even sit ins to a certain extent but disruption of the country is going to far how is cowtowing to a few tens of thousands of radical terrorist protesters democracy ot of a country of 60 some million.

The government also ought to charge Mr. T with sedition, terrorism and conspiracy and put out an international warrent for his arrest with interpol and any and all other international police organizations.

not to mention the bribes they receive. yet they put up signs that say, "stop corruption."

Its pretty clear, if they did respect (or have any regard) for foreigners then they wouldn't foce immigration to close. So I think their actions speak rather clearly.

It's time to stop this monkey business, literally: monkey business.

nothing at all to do with anti farang -- all govt departments in that area have closed - EC is just around the corner from the Imm Bureau and so they have decided to close all govt facilities in that new area --- not anti farang -- so think again ---

[NinjaGladiator]

For your simple picture - for simple minds, Man really wanted Gold medal, but didn't win, so uses power through mammy, daddy, best friends to finds the best judge in the land who will be on-side, judge forms a kangaroo court, and quickly come up with an easy charge, so the winner is stripped of his medal, but the bronze man realised he was still not good enough to take 1st place so calls mammy and daddy again to rally around and sort this other guy out (who now has Gold medal), Judge - kangaroo court, etc. etc. and hey presto he's stripped and bronze man finally gets what he wants, however this is not a good example cos we're not dealing with individuals here we're dealing with the wealthiest people in the nation, and there's a lot of them, with a lot of clout. Vote buying has been going on for generations, up here in Dumb&Dumber land, where us country bumkins live, we is all so stupid up 'ere, we avn't got a clue.

So I asked my misses how it all works - Man comes along with lots of 100bt notes, passes them around, and says "now you promise you will vote for______", and they all nod their heads like good children, 2 days later another man passes through, he's only got 50bt notes, but that doesn't matter, they all take his money and nod like good children (kop-chun-Ka), "So who do they vote for on election day" I asked with a surprised look, "They vote for whoever they like" replied the wife.

SabaiBKK - I do hope you weren't referring to me when you talked of simple minds, seems to me you're a little clueless yourself.

Glyn