Girlfriend Has A Drug Problem?

[buddy]

hard thing man, gotta try and help, but at the end of the day you need to draw the line, and be ready to change the locks and walk away.... unfortunatly this is how it works out sometimes, no matter how much you love them

Concur, guillotine the relationship, shes cheated/cheating on you, disappearing till the next afternoon (cheated/cheating on you), on drugs (and you are at serious risk here in Thailand)...your a doormat man!

Plenty of nice Girls out there, good luck, go get em!

[bjoe97]

If you use it once in while not much harm is done but ice is so powerful that a lot of people can't control their use and become addicted.

Once addicted it's probably the worst drug to be addicted to in the way it fvk's up your brain and deteriorates your body.

ice is non addictive, fact

[bjoe97]

Dosnt have to be hard drugs that destroy, take lives. Had a brotherinlaw who hung himself while full of canabas and another cousin who killed himself sniffing petrol.

All drugs are bad.

Dump the lady before you get implicated or how does time in the BKK Hilton sound

booze fags too? why is a human need them? by the way medicine are drugs- are they bad too?

i would say the mindbogglingly boring 9-5pm is much worse and apply to 90% of the us, hence we seek release

nice to see some compassion

do we not all have some problems at time?

[bjoe97]

BjoE, can you explain the relevance to what you have written in relation to what has been posted?

to explain that there are many types of meth and the one often called here "ice" aka shabu is not really it, and not really dangerous when done correctly

things should be called what they are

instead of all this misinformation about drugs, the governments should have program which people who take, and always will can go to

[bjoe97]

What's the Downside?

The "benefits" of meth are more than matched by the drug's ill effects-both immediately and over time. Methamphetamine is an addictive drug that causes physical harm throughout the body. In addition to that physical damage, some people looking for temporary relief from long-term conditions like depression and AIDS-related fatigue may try meth and ignore their prescribed treatments.

After the initial rush, individuals typically experience a state of great agitation that can lead to violent behavior. As the drug leaves their systems, users can experience:

· Irritability/aggressiveness/frustration

· Anxiety

· Depression

· Fatigue

· Paranoia (sometimes extreme, leading to thoughts of homicide or suicide)

· Hallucinations or delusions (e.g., sensation of insects crawling on the skin) Intense cravings for the drug.

The pleasurable effects of the drug vanish even before it disappears in the blood. As a result, meth users often follow a "binge and crash" pattern and may continue taking the drug over several days. They may go without food and sleep and inject the drug every 2 to 3 hours to prolong the high and postpone the inevitable crash.

The crash phase, commonly referred to as "tweaking," often overwhelms the user with feelings of anxiety and emptiness. When tweaking, people can be extremely irritable and paranoid. They may exhibit unpredictable and dangerous behavior when startled, confused, or confronted. To reduce or counter withdrawal, meth users frequently resort to alcohol, heroin, or marijuana.

The length of time before long-term effects become noticeable and the severity of those effects vary from person to person. People who report control of the drug at first may lose that control over time and become addicted. Meth addiction is caused by the changes in the brain produced by the drug. People addicted to meth experience a powerful physical and emotional withdrawal. The user's lifestyle changes to focus on getting and using meth. Even after chronic use has stopped, the meth user may experience depression, anxiety, fatigue, paranoia, aggression, and an intense craving for the drug.

Damaging effects of methamphetamine include physical, emotional, and mental destruction, including:

· Memory problems

· Insomnia

· Decreased appetite and anorexia

· Increased heart rate, blood pressure, and body temperature

· Tremors or convulsions

· Breathing problems

· Lung, kidney, and liver damage

· Irreversible damage to blood vessels in the brain, which can produce strokes

· Increased risk of getting or transmitting HIV/AIDS, hepatitis B and C, and other diseases for users who inject meth and share needles

Meth's effect on the brain and the brain's ability to recover are not entirely clear. However, injury to brain cells can be seen months after a person quits using meth. This damage affects the supply of chemicals important to physical and mental well-being. Whether addicted or not, meth users risk brain damage that may be permanent.

Research is continuing, but studies also have connected prolonged use of meth with symptoms similar to those experienced by people with Parkinson's disease. Another outcome may be brain damage that appears similar to that caused by Alzheimer's disease, stroke, and epilepsy.

http://www.4therapy.com/consumer/condition...ighly+Dangerous

my friend say this is by and large completely wrong when refering to the Japanese version- so please be more specific when you say meth

you see, what you say falls flat on its face by the very fact that these people do not abuse it, know when to stop( ice is not addictive)

call something what it is at least

none of them say they have experienced what you describe.These are professional people.

[mrtoad]

BjoE, can you explain the relevance to what you have written in relation to what has been posted?

to explain that there are many types of meth and the one often called here "ice" aka shabu is not really it, and not really dangerous when done correctly

things should be called what they are

instead of all this misinformation about drugs, the governments should have program which people who take, and always will can go to

Well the professional body that I belong to, have suggested that as a pilot in the UK for Heroin - it will be interesting to see how it plays out, but it is quite clear to me that the Methadone programmes are pretty much a waste of time in their current format.

However, any such programme needs to be closely monitored, and with clear criteria in respect to those that it is given to IMO.

[mrtoad]

my friend say this is by and large completely wrong when refering to the Japanese version- so please be more specific when you say meth

you see, what you say falls flat on its face by the very fact that these people do not abuse it, know when to stop( ice is not addictive)

call something what it is at least

none of them say they have experienced what you describe.These are professional people.

The point is that the drug available in Thailand is vastly different. e are going back into the "apples" and "oranges" debate - however the names may be the same the product that you are referring to is different, as is Desoxyn which has been mentioned earlier.

[meom]

That depends how you define addictive.

In general I guess if people feel a physical or psychological craving for a substance and can’t normally (define normally?) function without it you could argue they’re addicted to that substance.

Crystal meth which in Thailand goes by the name of Ice (Ya-Ice) has a high potential for addiction but that doesn’t mean that everybody that uses it becomes automatically addicted. People’s brains are not exactly wired the same so drugs have a different effect on different people.

Regarding the apples and oranges analogy and difference between Desoxyn and Ice is that there is not much difference chemically. It’s the same basically since the active ingredient in both is methamphetamine.

The main difference is how people (ab)use it and you can’t really compare medical use with recreational use.

Desoxyn is used in 5mg or 10mg doses while a recreational user of Ice will easily go through a gram of the product in a two day timespan.

In addition to that Desoxyn is swallowed in which case the bioavailability is something like 60% while Ice is usually smoked where it has a bioavailability of over 90%.

Sure the purity of methamphetamine in Desoxyn is much higher at 100% while Ice on the street nowadays has a purity of 40%-70% but that doesn’t really matter if you compare the use of a gram versus a 5mg pill..

[sbk]

Seeing as how this has gone completely off topic about the OP's girlfriends drug problem and into a discussion of the use of illegal drugs

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