studenttraveller Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) hi, everyone, hope you guys can help me with this Basically me and a university friend went to Thailand last summer and had the most amazing time We went to Bangkok, Phuket then Chiang-Mi, and loved everything about the country - the food, the culture, the climate - in short it was the best 2 months travelling I've had in my life! The friend I went with is busy this year, however I really want to go back and was planning to go with another friend (who hasn't been to Asia before) - however what I'm wondering is how serious is all the recent trouble in the news? Is Thailand still safe for backpackers/travellers? The thing is its hard to know - initially I dismissed it as media hype, however the British Foreign Office now say on their website that they advise against "all non-essential travel to Thailand" in light of the problems there, which is a bit worrying So my question is, how's Thailand changed in the 10 months or so since I was there? Is it just media hype and is everywhere still great, or are there areas to avoid (e.g. Bangkok?) I'm not just talking danger (though obviously that's the main thing!) has all the trouble actually affected the country, i.e. are there no tourists around these days etc? Will there still be lots of backpacker-types there in the summer? Appreciate this loads, thanks again guys! Edited May 9, 2010 by studenttraveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 It's mainly hype apart from a few of isolated incidents in very predictable areas which are easy to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I've never run into any problems, but I always stay out of the problem areas, and I never get drunk, either. It helps if you travel as a small group, or as a couple, and it deters the low-life creeps from looking at you as potential victim of a mugging. For the most part, the nature areas with beautiful scenery are pretty much free of all the turmoil. The popular bar scene areas (Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya, Patpong, Patong) are a different story and you takes your chances... even though I've never been bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWheelMan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) There has been a lot of publicity regarding the political troubles affecting Thailand at the moment. Most of this has been hyped up way out of proportion by the Western Media. The Thai capital, Bangkok is 5 times larger than London (I think). The rioting between the Red shirts and government forces has taken place within a one square mile area, about 10 streets. Outside of Bangkok, except for a few peaceful demonstrations outside a government building in Chiang Mai, all is as normal and not affected. For those of you that are considering visiting Thailand or know of someone who is visiting, there is absolutely no cause for concern. Caution should be taken if roaming and staying in and around Bangkok. Take advice on areas that should be avoided, otherwise there is no problem. If you are still concerned, please read the article below that explains how the political problems affects tourists: What Does it Mean for Tourists? Thailand’s political divide shows no sign of healing in the immediate future with the yellow-shirted protesters having now been replaced by the red-shirted protesters. The protests remain an internal political issue and are not aimed at tourists. The country remains welcoming to visitors and everyday life goes on as normal. The overwhelming majority of tourists are unlikely to see any signs of political strife other than what they may see on Thai television. With a worldwide credit-crunch and a domestic economy reliant on exports and tourism, Thailand can ill afford more airport closures. The government know that and, hopefully, so do the protesters. Logic and Thailand doesn’t always go hand-in-hand, but most local analysts are ruling out the prospect of any more disruption to Thailand’s airports. Nevertheless, there is no doubt that there will be more protests in one form or another by the red shirts against the newly formed government. Recent protests by the red shirts have mainly been around Government House in Bangkok with a few sporadic demonstrations in some provincial areas including Chiang Mai. Edit: From: Who are the Yellow Shirts and Red Shirts? By thaizer • February 1, 2009 http://www.thaizer.com/politics/who-are-th...and-red-shirts/ Edited May 13, 2010 by Mario2008 llink to article added - mario2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I think you posted in the wrong topic, bigwheelman. Your post needs a SEPARATE topic all on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigWheelMan Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 (edited) I think you posted in the wrong topic, bigwheelman. Your post needs a SEPARATE topic all on its own. I heard that by the time the OP finished reading my post, he missed his plane and won`t be visiting Thailand afterall. Ok, Ok, you`re right, so I shortened my post. Edited May 9, 2010 by BigWheelMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 The Thai capital, Bangkok is 5 times larger than London (I think). Guessed more like.. London and Bangkok are a very similar scale.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 if you have survived for 2 months the last year without any problems and situation hasn't changed dramatically since 2009, than you can plan your next holiday here. however, nobody knows, how the situation will develop in the future, so just in case, do have an alternative, a back up plan. Still Bangkok can be your travel base in the region. In even the worst scenario, the planes will fly, to escape to malaysia or some other country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiman Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 It's more dangerous for your pocketbook. That's all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdawson Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 very unsafe now especially for backpackers u better stay put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 (edited) OP, what you wrote is incorrect. The travel advisory has been updated last week: The overall level of the advice has changed; we no longer advise against all but essential travel to the whole country. We advise against all travel to specific parts of Thailand. We advise against all but essential travel to other specific parts of Thailand, including Bangkok. Source: http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-living...ceania/thailand Have fun. Edited May 10, 2010 by WinnieTheKhwai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
321niti123 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. Non expensive is not quite true, hotel prices are going down in bangkok because of the political situation. Most of thailand should be safe, not sure about Bangkok, we're still waiting for the end of the red protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. Non expensive is not quite true, hotel prices are going down in bangkok because of the political situation. Most of thailand should be safe, not sure about Bangkok, we're still waiting for the end of the red protest. It is true because the pound has weakened. Hotels may be cheaper, it is low season, but not by enough to mitigate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. Non expensive is not quite true, hotel prices are going down in bangkok because of the political situation. Most of thailand should be safe, not sure about Bangkok, we're still waiting for the end of the red protest. It is true because the pound has weakened. Hotels may be cheaper, it is low season, but not by enough to mitigate it. The hotels are not more expensive, your money is cheaper. I think you should stay at home in the first few days of July. Or at least stay away from Bangkok. If you do go to Bangkok, I can PM you a list of bars I'd like you to stay away from. Thanks very much SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw25rw Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The hotels are not more expensive, your money is cheaper. From his point of view, it's more expensive regardless of why. There's no need to turn this into another currency debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawndoc Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 I think for all non-backpackers when I say, "No, Thailand is not safe for backpackers. Please find another country to visit." For everyone else its perfectly safe provided you avoid the protest areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sid1967 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. about 60 bombs in the recent months, can happen all over thailand today the first one in phuket, but it did not explode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 I think for all non-backpackers when I say, "No, Thailand is not safe for backpackers. Please find another country to visit."For everyone else its perfectly safe provided you avoid the protest areas. Interesting response from someone who seems unaware that package tourists and family holiday makers have cancelled their travel plans in droves while the backpackers still come and contribute to the economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisaketmike Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. A lot has changed. Don't come to bangkok with a yellow or a red shirt. Wear pink, better some gays are buying you a beer than a bullet in your mouth. Beer is healthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiEye Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Nothing has changed. It's just more expensive and harder to get travel insurance. A lot has changed. Don't come to bangkok with a yellow or a red shirt. Wear pink, better some gays are buying you a beer than a bullet in your mouth. Beer is healthier. You can come to Thailand and wear what ever color shirt you wish, and especially if you are a foreigner. No foreigner outside of any 'danger' zone has been hurt due to the 'chaos' going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 still reasonable safe for foreigners, but who knows what the situation will be summer time. Travel agencies will give money back or offer an alternative for holidays, but only a very few airlines will do the same. Thai airways will be the most flexible, because they the national carrier and have as well many flights in the region. I have booked already my air fare and was reasurred by the travel agent, that thai air will be allowing free changes of dates or destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonQuest Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 not now no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calsarah12 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Oh no. I was planning on traveling to thailand mid July. Should I just avoid Thailand altogether? Is anyone on this forum in Bangkok now that can give me more detailed advice on whether I should go and where to specifically avoid? Im going to travel all over SE Asia, first flying into bangkok. Should I fly in elsewhere? I really wanted to stay in bangkok for only 2 or 3 days anyway, and then head up north to Chiang Mai/ Chiang Rai. How's the north looking? Thank you for all your advice, whoever replies to this. I'm really undecided about what to do :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crudy21 Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I for one will certainly be giving Thailand a wide birth this year (first time in 15 years), its being reported now on Twitter that Dusit Thani Hotel in Sala Daeng is under attack. Then theres the report of the foriegner in KK being attacked. Think i will still go to Cambodia, not sure which route though, who knows what could happend at BKK. Sad situation indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigar7 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I was planning to book a flight to come to BKK next week, then travel by road/bus/car to Ratchaburi, and Pattaya. Is this area safe? Are there any travel restrictions? Your advice and recommendations are appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crudy21 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I was planning to book a flight to come to BKK next week, then travel by road/bus/car to Ratchaburi, and Pattaya. Is this area safe? Are there any travel restrictions? Your advice and recommendations are appreciated. Who knows, im guessing Pattaya is safe right now but by next week the whole country could be in civil war. I would seriously be looking at changing my plans if i were you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevozman1 Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Backpackers like it all a bit dangerous dont they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Im going to travel all over SE Asia, first flying into bangkok. Should I fly in elsewhere? I really wanted to stay in bangkok for only 2 or 3 days anyway, and then head up north to Chiang Mai/ Chiang Rai. How's the north looking? if you are going to travel the south east asia, than bangkok is the best base, because has many national and regional connections and air fare is reasonable. Whatever happens, airports will still be safe. You can always do bangkok as a transit from one destination to another. north is fine, but it's the hotbed for the reds - in chiang mai and chiang rai there is a state of emergency, but not much happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler1973 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I was planning to come next month or so, after the World Cup, escape the heat of Dubai but not feeling confident at the moment, can always get in and get out to the beach but I like hanging about in Bangkok for a few days (seriously!). Thai friends being evacuated from offices in the 'city' and now she's working from home so will keep her eyes to the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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