webfact Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Thai protesters to rally until deputy PM surrenders: leader BANGKOK (AFP) -- Thai anti-government protesters will keep up their rally in central Bangkok until the deputy premier surrenders to police over a deadly April 10 crackdown, one of their leaders said Monday. Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaungsuban was in charge of security when troops launched the unsuccessful operation to clear an area of the capital, leaving 25 people dead and hundreds injured in violent street clashes. "If Suthep refuses to surrender himself to police, we refuse to end the rally," a leader of the "Red Shirt" protest movement, Nattawut Saikuar, said from a stage in the demonstrators' sprawling encampment. "If Suthep surrenders to police, then we will go home," he added. -- ©Copyright AFP 2010-05-10 Published with written approval from AFP. [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted May 10, 2010 Author Share Posted May 10, 2010 Deputy PM to surrender to DSI on Tuesday. BANGKOK: -- Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban will surrender to Department of Special Investigation on Tuesday to testify against a complaint by victims of April 10 violence. The decision came as red shirts leaders announced that they would end the rally at Rajprasong if Suthep surrendered to face charge. Relatives and families of victims of the April 10 violence, led by opposition party Pheu Thai, filed a complaint with DSI against Suthep and PM Abhisit Vejjajiva for allegedly ordering the crackdown, resulting in death and injuries. -- The Nation 2010-05-10 [newsfooter][/newsfooter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiFun Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 So we wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Right, so Suthep will surrender tomorrow and then what? More demands? They are not going to leave tomorrow. Morons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherstuff1957 Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 (edited) I was just about to comment that "that will never happen" & then I saw the second post! Well, I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, but I'm going to bet that the Red leaders thought that Sutep would never do it. He's either called their bluff or he's obeying the law. Edited May 10, 2010 by otherstuff1957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 He is living up (so far) to his end, so now the reds must leave. That was the deal, or will UDD continue to be liars? Should be interesting to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheguevara Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Right, so Suthep will surrender tomorrow and then what? More demands?They are not going to leave tomorrow. Morons... Suthep will surrender and walk on bail after 30 minutes, with a trial never happening. Just like the yellow shirts surrendered and walked on bail after 30 minutes and 2 years later, a trial is still not visible on the horizon. However, when the red shirts surrender, they will not be able to walk on bail after 30 minutes. The strictly enforced double standards in Thailand prohibit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSterling Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Gimme a break.. surrender to the police...the PM of Thailand... that is totally hilarious Micky and Donald will love to hear the news.. Amazing what?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjaidee Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Interesting. He goes to the police. They decide there are no charges to face and tell him to go home. How will the "Red Shirts" feel then? Or...... do they really mean that they will go after he has been found guilty of something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nevermind...the reds are nothing but major liars. How can people here believe anything they say! They are a total disgrace to the Thai people. The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheguevara Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Gimme a break.. surrender to the police...the PM of Thailand... that is totally hilarious Micky and Donald will love to hear the news..Amazing what?? Deputy PM (aka. the puppet's puppet), not the PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Interesting. He goes to the police. They decide there are no charges to face and tell him to go home. How will the "Red Shirts" feel then? Or...... do they really mean that they will go after he has been found guilty of something? my thoughts exactly. Thaksin and his buddies try to make up excuses for the reds to continue disrupting the country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaggletooth Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 I was just about to comment that "that will never happen" & then I saw the second post! Well, I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, but I'm going to bet that the Red leaders thought that Sutep would never do it. He's either called their bluff or he's obeying the law. Calling their bluff. That's my bet. and they'll come up with a new demand because they've proven to be disengenous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheguevara Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Right, so Suthep will surrender tomorrow and then what? More demands?They are not going to leave tomorrow. Morons... Suthep will surrender and walk on bail after 30 minutes, with a trial never happening. Just like the yellow shirts surrendered and walked on bail after 30 minutes and 2 years later, a trial is still not visible on the horizon. However, when the red shirts surrender, they will not be able to walk on bail after 30 minutes. The strictly enforced double standards in Thailand prohibit that. so? what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigs Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 This is the tail wagging the dog! After reading countless posts from Cheguevara, and in particular the ones above I have come to the conclusion he is a sandwich short of a picnic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Red to the core, eh? Nuttawut stated clearly, remember, if he turns himself in, the reds will leave. He made arrangements, and Nuttawut suddenly changed his stance. It really stands to reason that everything the red leaders have said is nothing but lies and deception. The veil has been uncovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Well, reds said they will go home when he surrenders? If he surrenders tomorrow will the reds now man up and go home? You tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheguevara Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Red to the core, eh? Nuttawut stated clearly, remember, if he turns himself in, the reds will leave. He made arrangements, and Nuttawut suddenly changed his stance. It really stands to reason that everything the red leaders have said is nothing but lies and deception. The veil has been uncovered. Not at all. Suthep surrendering to his own department ..are you serious? It is like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Or Michael Jackson surrendering to Neverland. They should arrest Seh Daeng if they want to make any progress. But the army is standing 10 feet away from him and isn't doing anything. Maybe they don't want this to end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsunset Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Precisely! It is a silly game.... he will surrender to "himself" then he will free "himself." The red shirts are grasping at straws.... they need to be dispersed.... I say close all the McDonald's in the area and starve the likes of Kwanchai.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granuaile Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Right, so Suthep will surrender tomorrow and then what? More demands?They are not going to leave tomorrow. Morons... Suthep will surrender and walk on bail after 30 minutes, with a trial never happening. Just like the yellow shirts surrendered and walked on bail after 30 minutes and 2 years later, a trial is still not visible on the horizon. However, when the red shirts surrender, they will not be able to walk on bail after 30 minutes. The strictly enforced double standards in Thailand prohibit that. So? The redshirt charges are spurious, an attempt to throw up a smokescreen around their guilt. They attacked the military. they have been responsible for all deaths . The government and its officials committed no crimes. Frankly seems like the reds are stalling, the government should see that they have to be crushed by whatever means including aggressive actions in those regions where they are strongest. It is two bad the factionalism this afternoon didn't lead to the reds saving the government the trouble of undertaking a course that seems unavoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 They demanded ... he surrenders tomorrow. THAT was too easy. Will be interesting to see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkspeaker Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 (I think)-He's not being charged with anything, someone (phua thai) files a complaint against him, so he is only going there to file his response, a public prosecutor or DA or whatever they call it here is not prosecuting him, and the complaint is frevilous unlike the redshirt leaders and earlier the yellow shirt leaders who are up on charges that were filed by a prosecutor.. people keep saying there is a double standard but it's overstated-the yellow shirt occupation of the airport lasted only 8 days and they didn't have these grenade launching thugs mixed in with the protestors..the yellowshirt occupation of government house was more serious but ultimately that doesn't inconvenience anyone except the MPs and their staff that work there.. but i definently think the yellowshirt leaders are getting off way too lightly-they should at least be forced to coff up some money for the economic damage they caused with their airport outrage.. but i think you'll see the redshirt leaders will not do any jail time either..except for that former army guy(i forget his name)-that is being accused of being behind the greneade attacks-that guy is in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDrSomkid Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nevermind...the reds are nothing but major liars. How can people here believe anything they say! They are a total disgrace to the Thai people.The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Regarding your first part. Totally agree. Regarding the second part, PLEASE tell me you are joking... please... I got this word on my tongue. Now , that was it, ai h... something Oh yeah! this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almavro Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Luv the comments re the "double standard" at work... No standard at all, more like it. Neither Reds nor Yellows in jail, last time I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedeflonga Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Oh another reason to go on demonstrate. Next reason might be that some politician choose the wrong color for his suit Zzzz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CockneyGit Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Well, reds said they will go home when he surrenders? If he surrenders tomorrow will the reds now man up and go home? You tell me If he surrenders to the POLICE, not the DSI which is full of all his mates..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 So let me get this straight. The entire red shirt movement now hinges on the fact that they think it was 'unlawful' for the prime minister to order police and soldiers to disperse a protest. The PM has every right. That's his job, the deaths, whilst unfortunate in the extreme, were a consequence of individuals deciding to confront the 'legal forces' assembled to disperse them. There is no double standard here, the PM is empowered to take these decisions, especially as a state of emergency was in force. This is without a doubt the most stupid thing i have ever heard in Thailand. A classic. Ordering a protest to be dispersed does not equal ordering the murder of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurath Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 The Nation: here's latest twist. Nuttawut said Reds won't accept Suthep surrendering to DSI. "Conflict of interest", Nuttawut said. Of course not, Suthep is basically the guy who runs the DSI. It's like Mickey Mouse surrendering to Disneyland. Red to the core, eh? Nuttawut stated clearly, remember, if he turns himself in, the reds will leave. He made arrangements, and Nuttawut suddenly changed his stance. It really stands to reason that everything the red leaders have said is nothing but lies and deception. The veil has been uncovered. Yeah, Che is an absolute scream! To whom would he have Suthep surrender? Seh Daeng? Oak? Pintongta? Weng? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted May 10, 2010 Share Posted May 10, 2010 Doesn't Suthep need to have broken some laws and be charged with something to surrender to police? And if they don't accept him surrendering to the DSI, just who is he supposed to surrender to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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