Thousands Of Thai Protesters Defy Deadline To Leave

[Herm]

since there would be no such forum here anymore and any comment against the state would be punished by imprisonment or death - is that what you want? if the government does not take severe action now, this is what you are going to get

i admit that you possibly be right.

but if the government does take severe action now, that is almost surely what we are going to get.

disagree, at the moment the reds do not believe the government will crack down since Abhisit has been so hesitant to commit to force. Once they realize that they can not do as they please, they will think twice about rioting again.

Nobody would stop or attack a real peaceful protest in a park or a prearranged area but as we all know this is not the case here and by now you also have a very large criminal element that needs to be dealt with besides the terrorists and the instigators.

[MartinBKK]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

That's what a human shield is - "don't shoot at us behind standing behind the red barricades because we have brought our children here."

No - it's not.

[gragra]

I find it quite sad that the real brown shirts - the BIB - can happily stand by and watch some hoods create a fire out of a bunch of tires, wait for it to become completely ablaze - and then finally put it out with some extinguishers. I guess this is what we call finding the middle ground.

Let them muck up, then once they've had some fun, we can all be content in doing what we want to do.

And all this and they still have the time and temerity to extort motorcycle riders from money for riding in the wrong lane/without displaying tax sticker, blablabla...

Gotta eat, right...?

[eastlight]

The Red Shirt leaders remind me of Lord Farquaad in the movie "Shrek" who tells his soldiers as he send them on a mission: "Some of you may die, but that is a risk I'm willing to make."

I would also like to add that parents who have kept their children in the line of fire should receive a double sentence. If they want to be martyrs, that's fine, but they do not have the right to put their children in such danger for any reason. Let's hope there is little if any loss of life.

Do you think such people care about putting their children in danger - these are the same parents who put their children in danger every night when they're working in Nana or Soi Cowboy.

[hextac]

Wow you are truely of your rocker

Get a grip, people are detroying your country

and you support it, you are as bad as the people

burning the tires, trying to blow up a gas tanker.

They havent killed anyone as far as i know

If you get shot at with live bullets what would you do ?

There is madness on both sides , i grant it to you

You obviously know very little. Then again, if Jatuporn cut someones throat in front of 30 reporters, you would deny it. TROLL

Classic strawman argument. Do you actually have any proof?

Edited May 17, 2010 by hextac

[bf2002]

A real mess indeed. They must be really proud of themselves.

Are there bigger masses of Red protesters left anywhere else in the city?

This group is down to 5000 protesters. It is a mess, but this would seem to tell me that most protesters have gone home since the govt majorly cracked down.

Why can't the army just keep them contained and wait them out? It's a small group and they will eventually give up, if the army gives them no excuse to draw in more protesters.

[mommysboy]

Sticking to the thread question, what happens now?

Buxxer all as far as I can tell!

This is pathetic.

[SanSaiExPat]

If we decide to appease the international standard, talk will resume. But given the way that the UDD are behaving, should talk resume and only to be broken down by unbelievable demands again? The funny thing is how the international press (CNN and BBC) are portraying Thaksin as 'only' living abroad and not as a fugitive, what gives, are there too many definition of fugitive? It's these kind of press misinformation that gives Thaksin legitimacy to his claim of innocence.

Now that it's off my chest. Let's get back on topic.

since the govenrment gave the UDD a clear deadline to vacate the premises, then I believe that they are disobeying the law. There should be some punishment for that. The demand by UDD to withdraw the troop is totally outrageous, that would tantamount to 'red' victory. If only the leaders would take off their blindfold (or off any medications) then maybe they'll give realistic demands. But that's too late now. They have now given the gov't every right to use force to disperse the crowd, though I wish that they'll use 'less than lethal' force to do it.

I realize that not many know this, but does anybody realize that Thaksin pays every red shirt 500Baht per day to fight his war, which is why there are still 5000 reds fighting this battle. This is the only reason. Money. This civial war is all about money.

When Thaksin was in power he stole a large majority of the countries money, and then gives some to his supporters, which is why they love him, because he gives them money. He still has billions of dollars he stole from Thailand, and no one can find it or retrieve it, so he now uses this money to pay his "conscript" army to fight this war against the country who ousted him from power.

With all this money, Thaksin has many "friends" around the world who will help him and harbour this fugitive. All about the money.

How much would it cost do you think, to have this man tracked down and "delt with"? If there is no Thaksin, and no one to pay the reds to fight, then wouldn't this whole situation dissolve?

An international hitman was rumoured to have been hired to shoot the most radical red leader, a rebel general of the Thai army, in a live interview on TV on Thursday, conveniently when the army was deployed, along with many snipers, to surround and contain the reds. So most people don't know who the shooter was. This was obviously an attempt at dissolving the reds morale and hopefully end the conflict, but unfortunately this is not the root of the problem, as we can still see they are happy to fight to the death for Thaksin, and bring their whole families along to die with them.

The reds are also being supplied with weapons from somewhere, weapons not used by the Thai army, and they don't know where the weapons are coming from or who is supplying. These are things that the Thai government want to keep quiet from the world because it brings up a lot of questions which they are still trying to find the answers for themselves.

In my opinion, the reds mentality is completely money driven, and without care for any lives, be they innocent or not. They are also clearly not Buddhist people, who believe in peace, non-violence, amongst many other things that the red "army" is completely ignorant of. I am completely and utterly shocked and appauled by this whole thing and pray that this all ends peacefully and quickly.

Blessed be all who walk the earth and may their hearts be filled with love and peace for all.

Ms, you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact. You attack you enemy's religious beliefs in an attempt to make yourself seem more virtuous than your enemy. Let me ask you this. If all Red Shirts are "Not Buddhist people” what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

[gragra]

since there would be no such forum here anymore and any comment against the state would be punished by imprisonment or death - is that what you want? if the government does not take severe action now, this is what you are going to get

i admit that you possibly be right.

but if the government does take severe action now, that is almost surely what we are going to get.

disagree, at the moment the reds do not believe the government will crack down since Abhisit has been so hesitant to commit to force. Once they realize that they can not do as they please, they will think twice about rioting again.

Nobody would stop or attack a real peaceful protest in a park or a prearranged area but as we all know this is not the case here and by now you also have a very large criminal element that needs to be dealt with besides the terrorists and the instigators.

+1

blow em or hose em. Don't matter. Clean the shit up for fuc_k's sake.

And if all the forces started doing their jobs, then it would be a great help.

How is it that a group of <deleted> taxi drivers can block off the Rama3/Asoke overpass by parking their cars, and putting a few tires and bamboo poles there?

But i guess the cops have already been through there, have the licence plates etc and will be pulling them out of business and into Jail over the coming days.

[Phuket Stan]

Interestingly there are some non-racist Westerners prepared to call this masssacre precisely what it is - an act of outright mass murder against unarmed or grossly underarmed (catapults!) civilians. From New Mandala today:

"The definition of massacre is: “The act or an instance of killing a large number of humans indiscriminately and cruelly.” Let’s be clear about what is happening on the streets of Bangkok: this is a massacre. Perhaps not a single act or instance, but when taken as a whole, the military and police operations against the red shirt protesters have killed up to this point more than any crackdown by previous Thai military regimes in the past 50 years. "

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2...-is-a-massacre/

Note that the "author" of the piece in The New Mandala is anonymous.

'nuff said.

Sateev

A lot of the stuff in New Mandala is so far left wing that it needs propped up....once again all the goodly life long scholars telling us all how we should live whilst they live off the taxes that we pay...never got their hands dirty or worked up a sweat in their lives.....

Dont bother to flame me....I have a huge fire hose on standby

[earthpig]

I mean th4e mob has to be eliminated - removed - structure broken - dispersed -

it wont work Herm. look what TV reports elsewhere:

"Map showing new Red Shirt Rally Stage in Khlong Toei http://bit.ly/cBideG - 1000's of Reds there already! /via @richardBarrow "

close down ratchaP and you will enerigize lots more Reds, and they will simply set up stages elselwhere. in fact, i wouldnt be entirely surprised if Red Central closes down RatchaP on their own accord. in not expecting it, but they might

sure, they may have to move to poor neighborhoods where they wont affect you buying your prada for the missus

[Herm]

If we decide to appease the international standard, talk will resume. But given the way that the UDD are behaving, should talk resume and only to be broken down by unbelievable demands again? The funny thing is how the international press (CNN and BBC) are portraying Thaksin as 'only' living abroad and not as a fugitive, what gives, are there too many definition of fugitive? It's these kind of press misinformation that gives Thaksin legitimacy to his claim of innocence.

Now that it's off my chest. Let's get back on topic.

since the govenrment gave the UDD a clear deadline to vacate the premises, then I believe that they are disobeying the law. There should be some punishment for that. The demand by UDD to withdraw the troop is totally outrageous, that would tantamount to 'red' victory. If only the leaders would take off their blindfold (or off any medications) then maybe they'll give realistic demands. But that's too late now. They have now given the gov't every right to use force to disperse the crowd, though I wish that they'll use 'less than lethal' force to do it.

I realize that not many know this, but does anybody realize that Thaksin pays every red shirt 500Baht per day to fight his war, which is why there are still 5000 reds fighting this battle. This is the only reason. Money. This civial war is all about money.

When Thaksin was in power he stole a large majority of the countries money, and then gives some to his supporters, which is why they love him, because he gives them money. He still has billions of dollars he stole from Thailand, and no one can find it or retrieve it, so he now uses this money to pay his "conscript" army to fight this war against the country who ousted him from power.

With all this money, Thaksin has many "friends" around the world who will help him and harbour this fugitive. All about the money.

How much would it cost do you think, to have this man tracked down and "delt with"? If there is no Thaksin, and no one to pay the reds to fight, then wouldn't this whole situation dissolve?

An international hitman was rumoured to have been hired to shoot the most radical red leader, a rebel general of the Thai army, in a live interview on TV on Thursday, conveniently when the army was deployed, along with many snipers, to surround and contain the reds. So most people don't know who the shooter was. This was obviously an attempt at dissolving the reds morale and hopefully end the conflict, but unfortunately this is not the root of the problem, as we can still see they are happy to fight to the death for Thaksin, and bring their whole families along to die with them.

The reds are also being supplied with weapons from somewhere, weapons not used by the Thai army, and they don't know where the weapons are coming from or who is supplying. These are things that the Thai government want to keep quiet from the world because it brings up a lot of questions which they are still trying to find the answers for themselves.

In my opinion, the reds mentality is completely money driven, and without care for any lives, be they innocent or not. They are also clearly not Buddhist people, who believe in peace, non-violence, amongst many other things that the red "army" is completely ignorant of. I am completely and utterly shocked and appauled by this whole thing and pray that this all ends peacefully and quickly.

Blessed be all who walk the earth and may their hearts be filled with love and peace for all.

Ms, you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact. You attack you enemy's religious beliefs in an attempt to make yourself seem more virtuous than your enemy. Let me ask you this. If all Red Shirts are "Not Buddhist people" what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

who is making assumptions here right now about things you can not know - do you have any proof that he was killed on orders of the government or the army - you are a muppet red and full of it

Edited May 17, 2010 by Herm

[Ulysses G.]

what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

If you are talking about Seh Daeng, maybe.

Edited May 17, 2010 by Ulysses G.

[Livinginexile]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

Agreed

[Herm]

what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

If you are talking about Seh Daeng, maybe.

second that

[Livinginexile]

If we decide to appease the international standard, talk will resume. But given the way that the UDD are behaving, should talk resume and only to be broken down by unbelievable demands again? The funny thing is how the international press (CNN and BBC) are portraying Thaksin as 'only' living abroad and not as a fugitive, what gives, are there too many definition of fugitive? It's these kind of press misinformation that gives Thaksin legitimacy to his claim of innocence.

Now that it's off my chest. Let's get back on topic.

since the govenrment gave the UDD a clear deadline to vacate the premises, then I believe that they are disobeying the law. There should be some punishment for that. The demand by UDD to withdraw the troop is totally outrageous, that would tantamount to 'red' victory. If only the leaders would take off their blindfold (or off any medications) then maybe they'll give realistic demands. But that's too late now. They have now given the gov't every right to use force to disperse the crowd, though I wish that they'll use 'less than lethal' force to do it.

I realize that not many know this, but does anybody realize that Thaksin pays every red shirt 500Baht per day to fight his war, which is why there are still 5000 reds fighting this battle. This is the only reason. Money. This civial war is all about money.

When Thaksin was in power he stole a large majority of the countries money, and then gives some to his supporters, which is why they love him, because he gives them money. He still has billions of dollars he stole from Thailand, and no one can find it or retrieve it, so he now uses this money to pay his "conscript" army to fight this war against the country who ousted him from power.

With all this money, Thaksin has many "friends" around the world who will help him and harbour this fugitive. All about the money.

How much would it cost do you think, to have this man tracked down and "delt with"? If there is no Thaksin, and no one to pay the reds to fight, then wouldn't this whole situation dissolve?

An international hitman was rumoured to have been hired to shoot the most radical red leader, a rebel general of the Thai army, in a live interview on TV on Thursday, conveniently when the army was deployed, along with many snipers, to surround and contain the reds. So most people don't know who the shooter was. This was obviously an attempt at dissolving the reds morale and hopefully end the conflict, but unfortunately this is not the root of the problem, as we can still see they are happy to fight to the death for Thaksin, and bring their whole families along to die with them.

The reds are also being supplied with weapons from somewhere, weapons not used by the Thai army, and they don't know where the weapons are coming from or who is supplying. These are things that the Thai government want to keep quiet from the world because it brings up a lot of questions which they are still trying to find the answers for themselves.

In my opinion, the reds mentality is completely money driven, and without care for any lives, be they innocent or not. They are also clearly not Buddhist people, who believe in peace, non-violence, amongst many other things that the red "army" is completely ignorant of. I am completely and utterly shocked and appauled by this whole thing and pray that this all ends peacefully and quickly.

Blessed be all who walk the earth and may their hearts be filled with love and peace for all.

Ms, you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact. You attack you enemy's religious beliefs in an attempt to make yourself seem more virtuous than your enemy. Let me ask you this. If all Red Shirts are "Not Buddhist people" what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

who is making assumptions here right now about things you can not know - do you have any proof that he was killed on orders of the government or the army - you are a muppet red and full of it

The Robin Hood of Thailand perhaps?

Maybe this is why the rural poor love and support him so much

[ritch]

I'd think the news would deserve more tolerant posts from the majority of you

Do not feed the trolls.

On topic.

people who apply western ideology to eastern premise will get caughtup in saving poor orfans

and would go to the opening of an envelope only to polish one's own hat.

wherever your from it's biggoted to apply everything you know to everything you see.

I don;t understand why everyone has jumped on the kid human shield thing, it seems you've probably

turned something whereas a guy took his kid to see how cruel his government was making him hate that government.

Coming from the hills it's unlikely he will have seen that mass of military in one area instilling a hatred for the military into the kid.

The westernised world is in a fascist state where everyone is deemed equal where those who are now equal

actually get more that those who are not.

but maybe i've said to much

[pornsasi]

If we decide to appease the international standard, talk will resume. But given the way that the UDD are behaving, should talk resume and only to be broken down by unbelievable demands again? The funny thing is how the international press (CNN and BBC) are portraying Thaksin as 'only' living abroad and not as a fugitive, what gives, are there too many definition of fugitive? It's these kind of press misinformation that gives Thaksin legitimacy to his claim of innocence.

Now that it's off my chest. Let's get back on topic.

since the govenrment gave the UDD a clear deadline to vacate the premises, then I believe that they are disobeying the law. There should be some punishment for that. The demand by UDD to withdraw the troop is totally outrageous, that would tantamount to 'red' victory. If only the leaders would take off their blindfold (or off any medications) then maybe they'll give realistic demands. But that's too late now. They have now given the gov't every right to use force to disperse the crowd, though I wish that they'll use 'less than lethal' force to do it.

I realize that not many know this, but does anybody realize that Thaksin pays every red shirt 500Baht per day to fight his war, which is why there are still 5000 reds fighting this battle. This is the only reason. Money. This civial war is all about money.

When Thaksin was in power he stole a large majority of the countries money, and then gives some to his supporters, which is why they love him, because he gives them money. He still has billions of dollars he stole from Thailand, and no one can find it or retrieve it, so he now uses this money to pay his "conscript" army to fight this war against the country who ousted him from power.

With all this money, Thaksin has many "friends" around the world who will help him and harbour this fugitive. All about the money.

How much would it cost do you think, to have this man tracked down and "delt with"? If there is no Thaksin, and no one to pay the reds to fight, then wouldn't this whole situation dissolve?

An international hitman was rumoured to have been hired to shoot the most radical red leader, a rebel general of the Thai army, in a live interview on TV on Thursday, conveniently when the army was deployed, along with many snipers, to surround and contain the reds. So most people don't know who the shooter was. This was obviously an attempt at dissolving the reds morale and hopefully end the conflict, but unfortunately this is not the root of the problem, as we can still see they are happy to fight to the death for Thaksin, and bring their whole families along to die with them.

The reds are also being supplied with weapons from somewhere, weapons not used by the Thai army, and they don't know where the weapons are coming from or who is supplying. These are things that the Thai government want to keep quiet from the world because it brings up a lot of questions which they are still trying to find the answers for themselves.

In my opinion, the reds mentality is completely money driven, and without care for any lives, be they innocent or not. They are also clearly not Buddhist people, who believe in peace, non-violence, amongst many other things that the red "army" is completely ignorant of. I am completely and utterly shocked and appauled by this whole thing and pray that this all ends peacefully and quickly.

Blessed be all who walk the earth and may their hearts be filled with love and peace for all.

Ms, you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact. You attack you enemy's religious beliefs in an attempt to make yourself seem more virtuous than your enemy. Let me ask you this. If all Red Shirts are "Not Buddhist people" what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

My friend dont reply to the fanatic flammer . Not worth it .

He dont care about spilling thai blood from his own admission

[proto]

Does Thailand actually have water canons? - If they have, who are charge of when water canons are to be put into use? Surely, if the Abhisit government had brought the current - seemingly constantly towards the abyss spiralling situation - to and end without much bloodshed and within a few hours after the ultimatum ended at 3.00 pm - we would have a great (and seemingly strong  )winner in the opinion of that vast majority of Thais who are more mai-ben-lai than confrontation minded. Water canons - in a sufficiant number - could have accomplished that. So, seek those who control the water canons - if such exists in thailand - and you'll have pinpointed one partee that doesn't wan't the current government to come out strong.

In lack of water canons - may i suggest some responsible partee gets hold of, buy, confiscate, borrow or whatever - of a bunch of construction bulldozers that must exist by the plenty in Downtown BKK but now being idle. Ever seen that Hollywood movie with some Hero single handledly demolish a stronghold with about 1000 guys heavily armed with uncountable numbers of just about each and every kind of heavy duty weapons that has ever existed - with rocketlaunchers, mortars etc, - seems to be no match for a standard construction bulldozer.

UPS, now I've probably given a hint that only boozed  out crackhead mobsters would have brains and organization skills to effectuate.

[kimincm]

Indiscriminate killing of civilians is the definition of terrorism .

Who are the terrorists ?

1) Who is killing civilians?

2) Who is being indiscriminate?

3) We all know the terrorists are the ones burning the tyres, throwing grenades, and firing RPGs.

1) The army

2) the army

3) No , we dont ALL know ..

An off topic question Pornsasi,are you hiding a carrot in your rectum, and if not I'm confused about the the pressure on your brain and the subsequent <deleted> I read everytime you post.

This will light it up,I'll slink back to the shadows and leave the thrust and parody to those who love being 'seen and not heard' or is 'heard and not seen',anonymity,what a bonus of the 'new'age.Try this on.

[Herm]

Would you call that boy looking over the tyres a human shield.I suggest you print something factual.My thioughts would have been,he is showing the boy to the soldiers to show that he is there.

NOW

If someone had said the boy should not be there i would have agreed but dont spout crap on here

Agreed

You guys must be raving mad ?

Human shield is a military and political term describing the deliberate placement of civilians in or around combat targets to deter an enemy from attacking those targets. f the other party attacks these targets anyway, the resulting civilian casualties have propaganda value.

What else would you call what your accomplices are doing?

[larrylujak]

Where is Sukumvit closed?

[gemini81]

Interestingly there are some non-racist Westerners prepared to call this masssacre precisely what it is - an act of outright mass murder against unarmed or grossly underarmed (catapults!) civilians. From New Mandala today:

"The definition of massacre is: "The act or an instance of killing a large number of humans indiscriminately and cruelly." Let's be clear about what is happening on the streets of Bangkok: this is a massacre. Perhaps not a single act or instance, but when taken as a whole, the military and police operations against the red shirt protesters have killed up to this point more than any crackdown by previous Thai military regimes in the past 50 years. "

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2...-is-a-massacre/

unarmed civilians?! what COUNTRY are you talking about?!

[janderton]

sorry for the OT but is the first time i notice: what means "smelly member"?

[LuckyLew]

Ms, you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact. You attack you enemy's religious beliefs in an attempt to make yourself seem more virtuous than your enemy. Let me ask you this. If all Red Shirts are "Not Buddhist people" what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

Got any proof that a prime minister ordered his army snipers

to shoot an unarmed red shirts leader?

I doubt you do so you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact.

[Rucharee]

The Robin Hood of Thailand; ha ha ha. I cannot stop laughing.

[bweirdo]

reds jerking themselves off

Since you will not vote at next election , your views are unimportant

hey I think you are wrong about the vote thing. Can't i just pay someone to vote for me? isn't that how it works? how much are votes going for these days?

[jdinasia]

Wow you are truely of your rocker

Get a grip, people are detroying your country

and you support it, you are as bad as the people

burning the tires, trying to blow up a gas tanker.

They havent killed anyone as far as i know

If you get shot at with live bullets what would you do ?

There is madness on both sides , i grant it to you

You obviously know very little. Then again, if Jatuporn cut someones throat in front of 30 reporters, you would deny it. TROLL

I know what i see . Not soldiers has been killed in the latest protests .

Stick to the facts

Air Force officer killed in Saldaeng clash

An Air Force officer was fatally injured during a clash at the Saladaeng Intersection late Sunday night, Thai PBS reported.

A pick-up truck was trying to break through the security checkpoint at Saladaeng heading to Silom Road while gunfire was heard continually.

Troops also fired at the truck, causing it to crash into another vehicle in front of Bangkok Bank.

At the end of the gunfire, Leading Aircraftman Jatuporn Pittayananthakarn was found shot at his head. He died at the Bangkok Christian Hospital.

Pol Captain Apichart Saiyong was also injured in the incident.

-- The Nation 2010-05-17

Posted at 0942 this morning -----

Fact

I personally believe that the government is not announcing the deaths of soldiers and are instead saving all the data and evidence to support the terrorism chages against the Red Shirt leaders. That again --- is my opinion.

what I expect from this is pornsasi to say "show me proof that a red killed him" --- then again he turns a blind eye to any evidence of the reds doing wrong....

[Herm]

Ms, you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact. You attack you enemy's religious beliefs in an attempt to make yourself seem more virtuous than your enemy. Let me ask you this. If all Red Shirts are "Not Buddhist people" what would you call a Prime Minister who orders his Army snipers to shoot an unarmed Red Shirt leader giving an interview to the free press? Is that what Buddha would do?

Got any proof that a prime minister ordered his army snipers

to shoot an unarmed red shirts leader?

I doubt you do so you are misguided, poorly informed and full of misinformation. If that weren't enough you make assumptions about things that you do not and cannot know and you present them here as if they were fact.

He is not, he is just paid to write this crap here - there are still some reds here who call their action an unarmed protest despite overwhelming photographic and video evidence = they are paid propaganda artists - Hitler used them,

[ETatBKK]

Korbsak Reveals Nuthawut Asking for Ceasefire

PM Secretary General Korbsak Sapavasu reveals that he has recieved a telephone call from red shirt leader Nuthawut Saikua, requesting a ceasefire. Korbsak claims that Nuthawut offered to call back all smaller groups of protesters creating disturbances around the city back to the Ratchprasong stage.

TAN 2010-05-17, 20.55

any more details ?