Ex-Thai PM Thaksin Hires War Crimes Lawyer

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Nobody reads what Mazeltov writes anymore - just ignore him and move on lol

OK, I can rest.

Please folks don't feed the troll.

Thanks for the tips.

Don't tip the trolls either, they tend to fall easily

and it makes too much of a mess. And the sounds, oh my!

[geeky]

What few marbles he hasn't already lost are surely cracked. The man responsible for mass murder during the war on drugs, Tak Bai, Krue Sae, the bird flu cover up, the disappearance of opposing lawyers, the murder of key witnesses against him, the puppet master behind the proxy government responsible for the Rohingya and Hmong repatriation policies, the caller for revolution, the pay master behind the threats to burn Bangkok down, decides to open a can of worms by investigating the current government of human rights abuses? Let's hope the government stop pussy footing about and abandon the Thai way of leaving your opponent some face. Let's hope they counter attack and show the world the real face of this monster before removing it completely.

true, but the part that you're missing is this; why are people willing to follow him?

because the list of atrocities by the hands of the army and the democrats is much, much longer, that's why!

millions of people have lost all their livelihood the last decade due to illegal wood cutting by the army and democrats, that's what this is really about, and knowing what happened the last few years, i was very surprised they didn't turn violent much faster ... they have a whole lot of very good reasons to be angry!

[geeky]

How much of the 1.56 billion will reach actual victims? Could this be construed as vote buying? Is it not the responsibility of individuals and businesses to insure their interests? Why would not insurance and unemployment cover these issues?

I am sure that Jatuporn would consider this as vote buying. First you terorize a city to a practical stand still and then you claim that very effort of the grovernment to resolve its citizens problems as forms of vote buying!

the red shirt are just trying to stop the democrats and the army robbing this country ... ow, you didn't know about the floods then ... of course not, they only have been going on for a decade, have affected about 25 million people - as in; the biggest problem for the country

ow, and wasn't the project to stop the illegal wood cutting the last piece of legislation Thaksin got to sign? did you ever thought that maybe that's why the army took over ... to protect their interest in the illegal wood cutting, which has caused the floods (in case you didn't get that) ... or do you really think when the army took over they actually did that purely out of duty and for the country, do you really, really believe that? really?

Edited June 3, 2010 by geeky

[gl9999]

How much of the 1.56 billion will reach actual victims? Could this be construed as vote buying? Is it not the responsibility of individuals and businesses to insure their interests? Why would not insurance and unemployment cover these issues?

I am sure that Jatuporn would consider this as vote buying. First you terorize a city to a practical stand still and then you claim that very effort of the grovernment to resolve its citizens problems as forms of vote buying!

the red shirt are just trying to stop the democrats and the army robbing this country ... ow, you didn't know about the floods then ... of course not, they only have been going on for a decade, have affected about 25 million people - as in; the biggest problem for the country

ow, and wasn't the project to stop the illegal wood cutting the last piece of legislation Thaksin got to sign? did you ever thought that maybe that's why the army took over ... to protect their interest in the illegal wood cutting, which has caused the floods (in case you didn't get that) ... or do you really think when the army took over they actually did that purely out of duty and for the country, do you really, really believe that? really?

Yes Thaksin was a great guy trying to save Thailand and protect it from illegal wood cutting!

[Kilgore Trout]

How much of the 1.56 billion will reach actual victims? Could this be construed as vote buying? Is it not the responsibility of individuals and businesses to insure their interests? Why would not insurance and unemployment cover these issues?

I am sure that Jatuporn would consider this as vote buying. First you terorize a city to a practical stand still and then you claim that very effort of the grovernment to resolve its citizens problems as forms of vote buying!

the red shirt are just trying to stop the democrats and the army robbing this country ... ow, you didn't know about the floods then ... of course not, they only have been going on for a decade, have affected about 25 million people - as in; the biggest problem for the country

ow, and wasn't the project to stop the illegal wood cutting the last piece of legislation Thaksin got to sign? did you ever thought that maybe that's why the army took over ... to protect their interest in the illegal wood cutting, which has caused the floods (in case you didn't get that) ... or do you really think when the army took over they actually did that purely out of duty and for the country, do you really, really believe that? really?

Yes Thaksin was a great guy trying to save Thailand and protect it from illegal wood cutting!

Ha, yes, Thaksin the environmentalist. I'm sure he'd make a great Greenpeace member, I could see him out on a skiff battling a Japanese whaling boat

[Robby nz]

In light of the above can you tell me how much the Reds or PTP have put aside to compensate those nearly 30,000 people who their rally, riots, whatever caused to lose their source of income?

Have the reds PTP paid out anything to those unfortunate enough to be injured or the families of the dead?

The two questions associated with my previous post were as above quote, so far neither have received an answer from the red supporters all we have are a couple of comments trying to divert and cause argument.

Come on reds tell us how much the PTP and UDD really care about those who they have caused to lose income, jobs, businesses and of course their families some of whom will undoubtedly come from Issan and are the people the reds were supposed to be fighting for.

[KireB]

Of course some believe that, they are true believers. The hate of Thaksin is their religion.

Don't expect to much or any knowledge of details of what is going on in thai politics or thai history. and don't expect any intelligent reply from the simple minded Thaksin haters. Intelligence, knowledge, education and logic is not their stronghold.

I am smelling a rather arrogant undertone here. Next thing you will tell is that the' Thaksin-haters' is are less educated than the foreigners supporting his Red Movement. Or something like:' those that write post supportive of the Abhisit government, are foreigners that frequent the bars!'.

Up till now all intelligence and knowledge you have shown us, were links and articles you found through google! Even a primary 4 student could do that Mazeltov!

You will probably replyu this with your favorite response, the handclap!

[rixalex]

the red shirt are just trying to stop the democrats and the army robbing this country ... ow, you didn't know about the floods then ... of course not, they only have been going on for a decade, have affected about 25 million people - as in; the biggest problem for the country

ow, and wasn't the project to stop the illegal wood cutting the last piece of legislation Thaksin got to sign? did you ever thought that maybe that's why the army took over ... to protect their interest in the illegal wood cutting, which has caused the floods (in case you didn't get that) ... or do you really think when the army took over they actually did that purely out of duty and for the country, do you really, really believe that? really?

I'll tell you what i believe. The army defends the King. The red shirts defend Thaksin.

Do you really, really believe that the red shirts give a hoot about anyone robbing this country when they are employed by a convicted robber themselves? Really?

[slapout]

Thaksin's legal team is quite a diverse group, those that served their jail time for attempted bribery, those so called international lawyers (one of whom has falsely claimed to have passed the New York bar exam), a few who had the art of filing multi million baht lawsuits against various individuals/companies, etc, down to a printing press procedure, those who give the latest rumors gleamed from heaven knows where, and those who spout the same pro Thaksin bs propaganda on saving Thailand. There are probably others out there whose job it is to hire pr propaganda groups and individuals for specific programs/forums. Then you have those who seem to have a question/irrelevant comparative to real matters, plus the name calling as well as their self proclaimed judgment ability on all matters intellectual and personal.

As I know none of the people involved personally but have read a bit of their printed and in some cases listened to the verbal bs, I have come to the conclusion that the old adage' believe half of what you see and a much less proportion of what you hear', is true. I do wonder how many of the legal team can even practice law in Thaksin's various lairs.

[Dodobird]

the red shirt are just trying to stop the democrats and the army robbing this country ... ow, you didn't know about the floods then ... of course not, they only have been going on for a decade, have affected about 25 million people - as in; the biggest problem for the country

ow, and wasn't the project to stop the illegal wood cutting the last piece of legislation Thaksin got to sign? did you ever thought that maybe that's why the army took over ... to protect their interest in the illegal wood cutting, which has caused the floods (in case you didn't get that) ... or do you really think when the army took over they actually did that purely out of duty and for the country, do you really, really believe that? really?

I'll tell you what i believe. The army defends the King. The red shirts defend Thaksin.

Do you really, really believe that the red shirts give a hoot about anyone robbing this country when they are employed by a convicted robber themselves? Really?

employ to be killed?

Edited June 4, 2010 by Dodobird

[Samuian]

What few marbles he hasn't already lost are surely cracked. The man responsible for mass murder during the war on drugs, Tak Bai, Krue Sae, the bird flu cover up, the disappearance of opposing lawyers, the murder of key witnesses against him, the puppet master behind the proxy government responsible for the Rohingya and Hmong repatriation policies, the caller for revolution, the pay master behind the threats to burn Bangkok down, decides to open a can of worms by investigating the current government of human rights abuses? Let's hope the government stop pussy footing about and abandon the Thai way of leaving your opponent some face. Let's hope they counter attack and show the world the real face of this monster before removing it completely.

true, but the part that you're missing is this; why are people willing to follow him?

because the list of atrocities by the hands of the army and the democrats is much, much longer, that's why!

millions of people have lost all their livelihood the last decade due to illegal wood cutting by the army and democrats, that's what this is really about, and knowing what happened the last few years, i was very surprised they didn't turn violent much faster ... they have a whole lot of very good reasons to be angry!

had all been written in Ballpoints post, a few post's further up:

.."these people are content to sit around all day, taking handouts every election, making no effort to improve themselves, and now they take money from Thaksin to come here and ruin the lives of those who did make the effort to do something". The reds gave no policy, no idea of what they ultimately wanted if they had have gotten their demands, no suggestions as to how they would have improved the lives of those supporting them (and certainly not how they'd improve the lives of the many poor who didn't support them). They were a sham. A facade. A veneer thinly coated over the backdrop of one man and supported by his arrogance and the money he has stolen from the very same poor people they profess to be for...

Your answer, suggesting "the army and the Democrats" is pointing in the same direction in which the followers of the red hooligans have mislead them for their very own cause - those are standing for the people looting the resources of this country on EVERY imaginable level and this is what their "protests" really are for - to be able to return to power - ONCE and FOREVER - forgotten that the ousted PM - promoting "genuine Democracy" so much - once openly expressed his wild dreams about being in office as long as he lives or at least the next 20 years!

Very, very democratic thoughts - thanks heaven his tenure is over and as the looks of it - forever!

[rixalex]

I'll tell you what i believe. The army defends the King. The red shirts defend Thaksin.

Do you really, really believe that the red shirts give a hoot about anyone robbing this country when they are employed by a convicted robber themselves? Really?

employ to be killed?

Might as well have been. They were employed to take the country - by force if necessary.

Do i think the possibility of death would be sufficient to dissuade some possibly very poor people with few prospects in life the chance of earning two, three, four times what they would normally earn in a day? Sadly, no.

[cdnvic]

Posts with name calling and baiting deleted.

[TAWP]

millions of people have lost all their livelihood the last decade due to illegal wood cutting by the army and democrats, that's what this is really about, and knowing what happened the last few years, i was very surprised they didn't turn violent much faster ... they have a whole lot of very good reasons to be angry!

Millions? Due to 'wood cutting'? Really?

And you came to the conclusion of this number...how?

That millions of people own or cut wood and now lost their jobs?