Thaksin Slams Anupong For Crackdown On Red Shirts

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THAKSIN'S TWITTER

Thaksin slams Anupong for crackdown on red shirts

By THE NATION

Former premier Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday attacked the military for cracking down on the red shirts although his legal adviser Noppadon Patama called for peace talks by all sides as equals, without the government's domination.

In his Twitter message, Thaksin lashed out at Army chief Anupong Paochinda for serving Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban and causing much bloodshed.

"Just take good care of yourself before retirement by saving the money earned from the plight of the reds," he said, insinuating about Anupong's monetary rewards gained by crushing the red shirts.

He was critical of Anupong for turning his back on two administrations, under Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat, and choosing to back the Abhisit government.

Anupong tried to make shallow excuses for not dealing with the yellow shirts by saying Samak and Somchai did not involve the soldiers in crowd control even though he was fully in charge of the then state of emergency, he said.

He also said Anupong had no shame in trying to portray him [Thaksin] as not a royalist, arguing that as fellow graduates of Pre-Cadet Class 10, they ran together each day in the cadet formation shouting their loyalty to the nation, the religion and the monarchy.

In a related development, Noppadon held a press conference to criticise the government for paying lip service to the cause of reconciliation but having an ulterior motive to persecute its opponents before outlining plans for peace talks.

Thaksin and Noppadon timed to air their remarks just a day ahead of the government schedule to unveil details of how the reconciliation road map would be implemented.

Noppadon said the government was manipulating the emergency rule to frame its opponents by freezing more than 106 bank accounts.

Noppadon said the government alleged it had detected Bt60 billion in suspicious financial transactions linked to the red shirts but this was impossible because no one could have been that rich or would have spent that much money to finance political activities, he said.

He said Abhisit appeared insincere to bring about reconciliation because he was trying to frame Thaksin on a terrorism charge.

"The arrest warrant issued for Thaksin might cause some problems but not a deterrence for travelling and in the end, the press and the international community would understand the litigation was just a political game," he said.

He urged the government to enter into the peace talks with Thaksin instead of trying to persecute him, which he said would be in vain.

Thaksin was genuinely interested in mending fences and had no intention to harm Thailand even though he might not like the government, he said.

He rejected the allegation that Thaksin was hiring a number of international lawyers aimed at inflicting damage on the country, arguing the legal battle was directed at the government and not the state.

The five-point road map for reconciliation was a gimmick, he said, noting the point on media reform was just a pretext to gag critical views against the government.

"I still believe peace talks can happen if the prime minister will stop dominating and allow a truly neutral panel to take charge," he said.

He called for the government to directly make an overture to Thaksin in order to convince him to take part in the reconciliation process.

The government's one-sided efforts to bring about reconciliation would not be successful, he said, demanding the government step aside instead of taking the lead role in the process.

Vice Foreign Minister Panich Vikitsreth had a meeting with United Arab Emirates Ambassador Mohammed Ali Ahmed Omran Ali Shamsi.

Speaking following the meeting, Panich said the UAE repeated its pledge not to allow Thaksin to use its territory for any political activities.

Thaksin's whereabouts are presently unconfirmed and the authorities are moving ahead to try and bring him back to face the legal proceedings, he said. He is known to travel around several countries, including the UAE and Montenegro.

He said he thanked the UAE for lifting its travel restriction to Thailand following the end of the unrest.

-- The Nation 2010-06-10

[mazeltov]

stop the press

OMFG!!! Thaksin send a twitter message with a snide remark.

[MikeyIdea]

Who cares... Internationally Thaksin is history, rice farmers don't read twitter anyway

[lannarebirth]

One could almost feel sorry for Thaksin. Most Thais believe, or at least discuss on their websites, that Thaksin funded Anupong's daughter's education in England and purchased her/him a home there. Imagine all the different people Thaksin will have done similar "kindnesses" for in order for them to do the right thing as Thaksin sees it. Pretty poor return on investment so far.

[ozzieman05]

How dare you do your job

After all I have done for you behind the scenes

[givenall]

Who cares... Internationally Thaksin is history, rice farmers don't read twitter anyway

It is so funny to read this then see all the U-Tube video about what a scam artist he really is. He and his family and friend (if he has any left) have shamed themselves and Thailand for generation. He should crawl under a rock and disappear

[Who, me ?]

I just can not understand why this guy is still making comments about Thai politics.....If he wants to be involved, then he should come back, as a man, and stop being a coward in exile......

He is anyway a fugitive, and his advice should be treated as used toilet paper.

[Rucharee]

Twitter vs M16.

I it obvious where will I put my bet on.

[Motoon]

Someone heard some dogs barking?...

Edited June 10, 2010 by Motoon

[lazygourmet]

One could almost feel sorry for Thaksin. Most Thais believe, or at least discuss on their websites, that Thaksin funded Anupong's daughter's education in England and purchased her/him a home there. Imagine all the different people Thaksin will have done similar "kindnesses" for in order for them to do the right thing as Thaksin sees it. Pretty poor return on investment so far.

Talking on poor return on investment:

The Crown bureau sponsored Thaksin lavish studies in Texas

source: Pasuk Phongpaichit and Chris Baker: Thaksin: The Business of Politics in Thailand

[mazeltov]

I just can not understand why this guy is still making comments about Thai politics.....If he wants to be involved, then he should come back, as a man, and stop being a coward in exile......

He is anyway a fugitive, and his advice should be treated as used toilet paper.

Let him make his comments, the question is WHY PAY ATTENTION?

A:These "Thaksin said something" topics at thaivisa board are mostly used by the Thaksin obsessed mob to throw in their used sanitary items and upload other verbal BS.

[rabo]

Much of the message sounds like the ranting of a hurt child."You helped him but you didn't help me, you are not my friend! I hate you". Also a clear admission that the Samak and Somchai government was a Thaksin puppet regime, often denied here on TV.

One could almost feel sorry for the man and his money, until you consider the untold damage to a wonderful nation for which he is responsible.

Sad, sad, sad.

Edited June 10, 2010 by rabo

[chainarong]

THASKINS opinions are like arsoles everyone has one.

[Arjay]

THAKSIN'S TWITTER

Thaksin slams Anupong for crackdown on red shirts

By THE NATION

Former premier Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday attacked the military for cracking down on the red shirts although his legal adviser Noppadon Patama called for peace talks by all sides as equals, without the government's domination.

In his Twitter message, Thaksin lashed out at Army chief Anupong Paochinda for serving Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban and causing much bloodshed.

"Just take good care of yourself before retirement by saving the money earned from the plight of the reds," he said, insinuating about Anupong's monetary rewards gained by crushing the red shirts.

He was critical of Anupong for turning his back on two administrations, under Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat, and choosing to back the Abhisit government.

Anupong tried to make shallow excuses for not dealing with the yellow shirts by saying Samak and Somchai did not involve the soldiers in crowd control even though he was fully in charge of the then state of emergency, he said.

He also said Anupong had no shame in trying to portray him [Thaksin] as not a royalist, arguing that as fellow graduates of Pre-Cadet Class 10, they ran together each day in the cadet formation shouting their loyalty to the nation, the religion and the monarchy.

In a related development, Noppadon held a press conference to criticise the government for paying lip service to the cause of reconciliation but having an ulterior motive to persecute its opponents before outlining plans for peace talks.

Thaksin and Noppadon timed to air their remarks just a day ahead of the government schedule to unveil details of how the reconciliation road map would be implemented.

Noppadon said the government was manipulating the emergency rule to frame its opponents by freezing more than 106 bank accounts.

Noppadon said the government alleged it had detected Bt60 billion in suspicious financial transactions linked to the red shirts but this was impossible because no one could have been that rich or would have spent that much money to finance political activities, he said.

He said Abhisit appeared insincere to bring about reconciliation because he was trying to frame Thaksin on a terrorism charge.

"The arrest warrant issued for Thaksin might cause some problems but not a deterrence for travelling and in the end, the press and the international community would understand the litigation was just a political game," he said.

He urged the government to enter into the peace talks with Thaksin instead of trying to persecute him, which he said would be in vain.

Thaksin was genuinely interested in mending fences and had no intention to harm Thailand even though he might not like the government, he said.

He rejected the allegation that Thaksin was hiring a number of international lawyers aimed at inflicting damage on the country, arguing the legal battle was directed at the government and not the state.

The five-point road map for reconciliation was a gimmick, he said, noting the point on media reform was just a pretext to gag critical views against the government.

"I still believe peace talks can happen if the prime minister will stop dominating and allow a truly neutral panel to take charge," he said.

He called for the government to directly make an overture to Thaksin in order to convince him to take part in the reconciliation process.

The government's one-sided efforts to bring about reconciliation would not be successful, he said, demanding the government step aside instead of taking the lead role in the process.

Vice Foreign Minister Panich Vikitsreth had a meeting with United Arab Emirates Ambassador Mohammed Ali Ahmed Omran Ali Shamsi.

Speaking following the meeting, Panich said the UAE repeated its pledge not to allow Thaksin to use its territory for any political activities.

Thaksin's whereabouts are presently unconfirmed and the authorities are moving ahead to try and bring him back to face the legal proceedings, he said. He is known to travel around several countries, including the UAE and Montenegro.

He said he thanked the UAE for lifting its travel restriction to Thailand following the end of the unrest.

-- The Nation 2010-06-10

This guy Thaksin wont stop. He needs to suffer the same fate as Seh Daeng. He's crying for international intervention something he shrugged off a premier. "The U.N. is not my father". He slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated thousands of "suspected" drug suspects. Now he wants a "neutral" panel to investigate. The man is desperate to regain money and power at any costs.

[lannarebirth]

How dare you do your job

After all I have done for you behind the scenes

My sense of it is Anupong must have carried out his duties fairly well as both the Reds and the Yellows want his head.

[rabo]

I just can not understand why this guy is still making comments about Thai politics.....If he wants to be involved, then he should come back, as a man, and stop being a coward in exile......

He is anyway a fugitive, and his advice should be treated as used toilet paper.

Let him make his comments, the question is WHY PAY ATTENTION?

Please, lets all look the other way, nothing here to see, that's it, good, just keep walking, mind your way. You, madam! I told you to look away!

This one is about 7.3 on the mazeltov scale.

Edited June 10, 2010 by rabo

[Hirsch]

Another NEWSFLASH --> Our neighbours’ cat has eaten

[Samuian]

Who cares... Internationally Thaksin is history, rice farmers don't read twitter anyway

It is so funny to read this then see all the U-Tube video about what a scam artist he really is. He and his family and friend (if he has any left) have shamed themselves and Thailand for generation. He should crawl under a rock and disappear

A very good example what ego can do!

pure and plain evil if not .... absolute nuts!

[SpoliaOpima]

his legal adviser Noppadon Patama called for peace talks by all sides as equals, without the government's domination.

Yeah it's not fair the state is allowed to use violence to combat crime and thuggery.

Twitter back:

Takbai Kreuse Drug Wars

[MikeyIdea]

I hear rumours that Thaksin is trying to buy democrat MPs to vote to not approve budget. That could work - if someone has more money than he should have and prepared to spend a small amount of it

How about the legal possibility of - if Thaksin is sentenced on terrorism charges - confiscate his assets and use it to pay for some of the damage that the countrys economy has suffered? Would that be legally possible? Internationally valid? Internationallt accepted?

[chainarong]

THAKSIN'S TWITTER

Thaksin slams Anupong for crackdown on red shirts

By THE NATION

Former premier Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday attacked the military for cracking down on the red shirts although his legal adviser Noppadon Patama called for peace talks by all sides as equals, without the government's domination.

In his Twitter message, Thaksin lashed out at Army chief Anupong Paochinda for serving Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban and causing much bloodshed.

"Just take good care of yourself before retirement by saving the money earned from the plight of the reds," he said, insinuating about Anupong's monetary rewards gained by crushing the red shirts.

He was critical of Anupong for turning his back on two administrations, under Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat, and choosing to back the Abhisit government.

Anupong tried to make shallow excuses for not dealing with the yellow shirts by saying Samak and Somchai did not involve the soldiers in crowd control even though he was fully in charge of the then state of emergency, he said.

He also said Anupong had no shame in trying to portray him [Thaksin] as not a royalist, arguing that as fellow graduates of Pre-Cadet Class 10, they ran together each day in the cadet formation shouting their loyalty to the nation, the religion and the monarchy.

In a related development, Noppadon held a press conference to criticise the government for paying lip service to the cause of reconciliation but having an ulterior motive to persecute its opponents before outlining plans for peace talks.

Thaksin and Noppadon timed to air their remarks just a day ahead of the government schedule to unveil details of how the reconciliation road map would be implemented.

Noppadon said the government was manipulating the emergency rule to frame its opponents by freezing more than 106 bank accounts.

Noppadon said the government alleged it had detected Bt60 billion in suspicious financial transactions linked to the red shirts but this was impossible because no one could have been that rich or would have spent that much money to finance political activities, he said.

He said Abhisit appeared insincere to bring about reconciliation because he was trying to frame Thaksin on a terrorism charge.

"The arrest warrant issued for Thaksin might cause some problems but not a deterrence for travelling and in the end, the press and the international community would understand the litigation was just a political game," he said.

He urged the government to enter into the peace talks with Thaksin instead of trying to persecute him, which he said would be in vain.

Thaksin was genuinely interested in mending fences and had no intention to harm Thailand even though he might not like the government, he said.

He rejected the allegation that Thaksin was hiring a number of international lawyers aimed at inflicting damage on the country, arguing the legal battle was directed at the government and not the state.

The five-point road map for reconciliation was a gimmick, he said, noting the point on media reform was just a pretext to gag critical views against the government.

"I still believe peace talks can happen if the prime minister will stop dominating and allow a truly neutral panel to take charge," he said.

He called for the government to directly make an overture to Thaksin in order to convince him to take part in the reconciliation process.

The government's one-sided efforts to bring about reconciliation would not be successful, he said, demanding the government step aside instead of taking the lead role in the process.

Vice Foreign Minister Panich Vikitsreth had a meeting with United Arab Emirates Ambassador Mohammed Ali Ahmed Omran Ali Shamsi.

Speaking following the meeting, Panich said the UAE repeated its pledge not to allow Thaksin to use its territory for any political activities.

Thaksin's whereabouts are presently unconfirmed and the authorities are moving ahead to try and bring him back to face the legal proceedings, he said. He is known to travel around several countries, including the UAE and Montenegro.

He said he thanked the UAE for lifting its travel restriction to Thailand following the end of the unrest.

-- The Nation 2010-06-10

This guy Thaksin wont stop. He needs to suffer the same fate as Seh Daeng. He's crying for international intervention something he shrugged off a premier. "The U.N. is not my father". He slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated thousands of "suspected" drug suspects. Now he wants a "neutral" panel to investigate. The man is desperate to regain money and power at any costs.

U got the money part right , money is power , he lost 2 billion and it's driving him nuts.

[MikeyIdea]

I don't think it's the money, it's the power driving him, and ego

[mazeltov]

This guy Thaksin wont stop. He needs to suffer the same fate as Seh Daeng. He's crying for international intervention something he shrugged off a premier. "The U.N. is not my father". He slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated thousands of "suspected" drug suspects. Now he wants a "neutral" panel to investigate. The man is desperate to regain money and power at any costs.

When Thaksin said "the UN is not my father" he meant that he isn't worried about when the UN comes to Thailand and does an independent investigation.

Thaksin "slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated [sic] thousands of "suspected" drug suspects." - that isn't true and nothing more than a very stupid propaganda lie.

sticking to the facts not a stronghold of the Thaksin haters.

Guess it is their different education that separates Thaksin haters at this board from other members.

[koosdeboer]

This guy Thaksin wont stop. He needs to suffer the same fate as Seh Daeng. He's crying for international intervention something he shrugged off a premier. "The U.N. is not my father". He slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated thousands of "suspected" drug suspects. Now he wants a "neutral" panel to investigate. The man is desperate to regain money and power at any costs.

When Thaksin said "the UN is not my father" he meant that he isn't worried about when the UN comes to Thailand and does an independent investigation.

Thaksin "slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated [sic] thousands of "suspected" drug suspects." - that isn't true and nothing more than a very stupid propaganda lie.

sticking to the facts not a stronghold of the Thaksin haters.

Guess it is their different education that separates Thaksin haters at this board from other members.

So you know what Thaksin meant? You are clever or are you Thaksin himself?

[TAWP]

When Thaksin said "the UN is not my father" he meant that he isn't worried about when the UN comes to Thailand and does an independent investigation.

No, he didn't, he meant that they had no say over him and he did not have to listen to their opinion as if it had any value.

Thaksin "slaughtered 100's of muslims and assainated [sic] thousands of "suspected" drug suspects." - that isn't true and nothing more than a very stupid propaganda lie.

Well, no, what he is referring to is the policy in the South and then the policy against small-time drug-dealers that ended up getting a lot of people killed. Now if you want to blame Abhisit for the death of the boat-people, when the military was following Samak's policy, then surely Thaksin is guilty for everything the army and police did during his reign...cannot have it both ways.

sticking to the facts not a stronghold of the Thaksin haters.

Guess it is their different education that separates Thaksin haters at this board from other members.

Funny, the outright denies of obvious things have usually been a trademark by many red shirts (and one or two yellow shirts) on this forum.

But as per usual you think the hate or dislike for Thaksin has anything to do with education. Guess that tells us more about you than anything else...

[rixalex]

When Thaksin said "the UN is not my father" he meant that he isn't worried about when the UN comes to Thailand and does an independent investigation.

Interesting interpretation.

Would have thought that had Thaksin wished to send the message to the UN that they were welcome and that he nothing to fear from any investigation they might conduct, he could have chosen more friendly and welcoming words. Telling them that they were not his father sounds pretty hostile and gave the impression that he felt he was not answerable to them and that they weren't welcome.

sticking to the facts not a stronghold of the Thaksin haters.

Guess it is their different education that separates Thaksin haters at this board from other members.

This "i'm more educated than you and that makes my opinion more important" nonsense is strange considering you claim to be fighting for the rights of the uneducated poor.

[yoshiwara]

"Just take good care of yourself before retirement by saving the money earned from the plight of the reds,"

A Thaksin mafia threat: We paid for you, we know where you live.

[MikeyIdea]

sticking to the facts not a stronghold of the Thaksin haters.

Guess it is their different education that separates Thaksin haters at this board from other members.

mazeltof - I would like to hear your opinion about the facts around if Thaksin did call in to the stage at Ratchaprasong or not, the facts around if the red leaders at Ratchaprasong did instigate burning or not, the facts around if the red leaders at Ratchaprasong planned burning or not

I work at Central World, I heard it: Did you also hear that?

What about the facts around if the reds had stock piled cooking cas tanks in strategic locations around Ratchaprasong so that they could make sure the fires they planned to light really took off. Perhaps that's an education issue...

[yoshiwara]

When Thaksin said "the UN is not my father" he meant that he isn't worried about when the UN comes to Thailand and does an independent investigation.

A desperate misinterpretation.

It actually meant that when Thaksin was running the show, as far as he was concerned the UN could drop dead.

Now that Thaksin wants to drum up some international support, there is a need to distort and lie about the previous position held.

That Thaksin apologists fall quickly into line is a sight to behold.

[mazeltov]

sticking to the facts not a stronghold of the Thaksin haters.

Guess it is their different education that separates Thaksin haters at this board from other members.

mazeltof - I would like to hear your opinion about the facts around if Thaksin did call in to the stage at Ratchaprasong or not, the facts around if the red leaders at Ratchaprasong did instigate burning or not, the facts around if the red leaders at Ratchaprasong planned burning or not

I work at Central World, I heard it: Did you also hear that?

What about the facts around if the reds had stock piled cooking cas tanks in strategic locations around Ratchaprasong so that they could make sure the fires they planned to light really took off. Perhaps that's an education issue...

why not discussing the 'facts i was referring to, instead of removing the context of my reply and quoting me only partly?

FACT: people have different education.

FACT: Thaksin did phone-ins, yes. that is true. nobody denies that. but does that put central world on fire?

FACT: The red shirts hold a rally for around two month without much burning and much arson happened.

FACT: According to Abhisit the red shirts were ordinary citizens, innocent people demanding democracy.

FACT: plenty of cooking gas everywhere in Thailand and not only a specialty of the red shirts.