Thai PM Abhisit Sued For Attempted Murder

[ThaksinKharma]

Nowhere in the article does it state that this reporter got hurt.

I'm awaiting word on a reporter that was hurt, by grenade-throwing reds, to file a lawsuit against the red leaders for attempted murder:

Canadian journalist wounded in Bangkok

Canadian freelance journalist Chandler Vandergrift has been seriously wounded in Bangkok, Thailand, by a grenade thrown at an anti-government protest site.

According to friend Ian Hinkle, Mr. Vandergrift, who was wearing a helmet, was injured by shrapnel from a grenade thrown by an anti-government protester. He is now in surgery.

National Post (Canada) - May 19, 2010

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/05/19/roundup-chandler-vandergrift-canadian-journalist-wounded-in-bangkok/#ixzz0uObVJbD8

So which news we should believe in then?

The one that says he was injured by a grenade thrown by a red shirt while the journalist was at the site where the red shirt protest was being held.

[ThaksinKharma]

Nowhere in the article does it state that this reporter got hurt.

I'm awaiting word on a reporter that was hurt, by grenade-throwing reds, to file a lawsuit against the red leaders for attempted murder:

Canadian journalist wounded in Bangkok

Canadian freelance journalist Chandler Vandergrift has been seriously wounded in Bangkok, Thailand, by a grenade thrown at an anti-government protest site.

According to friend Ian Hinkle, Mr. Vandergrift, who was wearing a helmet, was injured by shrapnel from a grenade thrown by an anti-government protester. He is now in surgery.

National Post (Canada) - May 19, 2010

http://news.nationalpost.com/2010/05/19/roundup-chandler-vandergrift-canadian-journalist-wounded-in-bangkok/#ixzz0uObVJbD8

So which news we should believe in then?

The one that says he was injured by a grenade thrown by a red shirt while the journalist was at the site where the red shirt protest was being held.

[thaibutty]

Imagine a western country, where armed anti-government protesters are allowed to block the main business district of the capital! How long would it take to dissolve the protest site? Probably less than 24 hours! Would the government use violence against the protesters, if a state of emergency was declared and it woule be necessary in order to get things back to normal? You can bet! And would the protesters stand any chance suing the government for their actions? Of course not!

The government had every right to to clear the protest site. They gave the protesters plenty of opportunities to leave. They gave in to their demand of new elections, but the Red Shirts did not want it.

The only mistake Abhisit made was to wait too long, before he ordered the clearance of the protest side!

[hyperdimension]

So much for reconciliation...

Anyone really believed Phua Thai wants that?

Has anyone seen out their "Seven days, seven pains" exhibition at their office? I'd like to see pictures of everything on display.

I am wondering whether the exhibition is displayed in a way that promotes reconciliation or attacks the government.

[Piengrudee]

This is a joke right?

[animatic]

Nowhere in the article does it state that this reporter got hurt.

I'm awaiting word on a reporter that was hurt, by grenade-throwing reds, to file a lawsuit against the red leaders for attempted murder:

Canadian journalist wounded in Bangkok

Canadian freelance journalist Chandler Vandergrift has been seriously wounded in Bangkok, Thailand, by a grenade thrown at an anti-government protest site.

According to friend Ian Hinkle, Mr. Vandergrift, who was wearing a helmet, was injured by shrapnel from a grenade thrown by an anti-government protester. He is now in surgery.

National Post (Canada) - May 19, 2010

http://news.national.../#ixzz0uObVJbD8

So which news we should believe in then?

Well, no one should be above the law and especially in the current economic situation of Thailand, Abhisit must step down because he is a complete failure on every front.

At a protest site, the grenade was thrown,

it doesn't say it was thrown AT the protest site.

And coupled with; 'by a grenade thrown by a protester'.

So combining the two,

'At the protest site, a grenade was thrown by a protester, that injured the Canadian reporter.'

[jayjay0]

GOOD

Maybe the truth will come out and the government shown for what they are

Abhisit will be the next fugitive

You red shirts are getting more desperate. Next you will be claiming that you had no weapons and no one received money and every one there paid a per die-um for there food.

You had some good things to say at the outset the problem being they were not the reason you were there. You wanted to cause trouble and you succeeded. Don't take your victory as a excuse to be stupid unless that is your natural state and in that sorry case carry on.

[jayjay0]

Independent reporter using Thaksins lawyer ????

Not sure if that fits my own definition of independent....

Maybe he is a good lawyer. Would be stupid not to take a lawyer because one of his other clients.

What is your definition of independent?

Makes sense to me provided you don't mind every one know you are working for Thaksin

[givenall]

what idiots......... with the fugitive never stop? he can call it self defense on behalf of Bangkok

This is a normal thing all over the world. When you have money everybody wants a piece. Unfortunately Thaksin took a lot of money out so wishing he can run out of money soon will not come true

[kuffki]

In country where you can hardly get paid any money for injury's or death caused by 3rd party, one seem to be able to file any lawsuits they wish even as ridiculous as this one.

So for being killed by a speed boat, family gets 300 000 baht, but something like this will get how much??????

[Zzinged]

Can someone enlighten me on this please. Can you sue someone for murder? Isn't murder (or attempted murder) a criminal case, not a civil one?

[kuffki]

Can someone enlighten me on this please. Can you sue someone for murder? Isn't murder (or attempted murder) a criminal case, not a civil one?

This is Thailand-can do everything as long as you happy to pay the lawyer and legal court fees

Although you may not win but other side will have to stress and spend money to defend, so kind of like having a money throwing competition and see who gives up first. then can also always appeal.

Amazing Thailand

Edited July 22, 2010 by kuffki

[RKASA]

Can someone enlighten me on this please. Can you sue someone for murder? Isn't murder (or attempted murder) a criminal case, not a civil one?

Wrongful death or injury i.e. O.J. Simpson found not guilty of murder, but found guilty of wrongful death of ex., a different standard of proof required. He can still make a pretty good case for wrongful injury if it applied in Thailand.

[monkfish]

GOOD

Maybe the truth will come out and the government shown for what they are

Abhisit will be the next fugitive

You red shirts are getting more desperate. Next you will be claiming that you had no weapons and no one received money and every one there paid a per die-um for there food.

You had some good things to say at the outset the problem being they were not the reason you were there. You wanted to cause trouble and you succeeded. Don't take your victory as a excuse to be stupid unless that is your natural state and in that sorry case carry on.

You Yellow shirts lol!

Sure go ahead and shoot the protesters who are carrying weapons but how many of those killed had weapons?

Answer = 0

[jayjay0]

Nowhere in the article does it state that this reporter got hurt.

I'm awaiting word on a reporter that was hurt, by grenade-throwing reds, to file a lawsuit against the red leaders for attempted murder:

Canadian journalist wounded in Bangkok

Canadian freelance journalist Chandler Vandergrift has been seriously wounded in Bangkok, Thailand, by a grenade thrown at an anti-government protest site.

According to friend Ian Hinkle, Mr. Vandergrift, who was wearing a helmet, was injured by shrapnel from a grenade thrown by an anti-government protester. He is now in surgery.

National Post (Canada) - May 19, 2010

http://news.national.../#ixzz0uObVJbD8

So which news we should believe in then?

The one that says he was injured by a grenade thrown by a red shirt while the journalist was at the site where the red shirt protest was being held.

Canadian freelance journalist Chandler Vandergrift has been seriously wounded in Bangkok, Thailand, by a grenade thrown at an anti-government protest site.

Here is part of the article

According to friend Ian Hinkle, Mr. Vandergrift, who was wearing a helmet, was injured by shrapnel from a grenade thrown by an anti-government protester. He is now in surgery. A Thai soldier was also seriously wounded in the explosion.

What kind of a idiot puts on a helmet and no vest when he walks into a area where they are throwing bombs shooting guns and yes even sling shots. A vest would have saved him a lot of trouble. JMO

Read more: http://news.national.../#ixzz0uQLLaBY3

Edited July 22, 2010 by jayjay0

[jayjay0]

This is a joke right?

No it is a sign of Thaksin's desperation

[whybother]

Canadian freelance journalist Chandler Vandergrift has been seriously wounded in Bangkok, Thailand, by a grenade thrown at an anti-government protest site.

Here is part of the article

According to friend Ian Hinkle, Mr. Vandergrift, who was wearing a helmet, was injured by shrapnel from a grenade thrown by an anti-government protester. He is now in surgery. A Thai soldier was also seriously wounded in the explosion.

What kind of a idiot puts on a helmet and no vest when he walks into a area where they are throwing bombs shooting guns and yes even sling shots. A vest would have saved him a lot of trouble. JMO

Read more: http://news.national.../#ixzz0uQLLaBY3

Does it say he WASN'T wearing a vest? The pic doesn't show any chest/abdomen injuries, so I assume he was wearing a vest.

[jayjay0]

GOOD

Maybe the truth will come out and the government shown for what they are

Abhisit will be the next fugitive

You red shirts are getting more desperate. Next you will be claiming that you had no weapons and no one received money and every one there paid a per die-um for there food.

You had some good things to say at the outset the problem being they were not the reason you were there. You wanted to cause trouble and you succeeded. Don't take your victory as a excuse to be stupid unless that is your natural state and in that sorry case carry on.

You Yellow shirts lol!

Sure go ahead and shoot the protesters who are carrying weapons but how many of those killed had weapons?

Answer = 0

Sorry not a yellow shirt either more like pink. Don't really care for Abhisit but he is the best of the lot.

Can you imagine a red shirt leader in there. Can just see it now law changed to if you don't like us take over three square kilometers of down town Bangkok deprive honest hard working citizens of there means of earning a living. If you think there is a soldier in a hospital invade it and if you don't get your way burn it down. And above all else make no effort to clean up your mess or apologize to the innocent people you have hurt. Oh and one last thing never negotiate just continue to demand the same thing over and over.

[monkfish]

GOOD

Maybe the truth will come out and the government shown for what they are

Abhisit will be the next fugitive

You red shirts are getting more desperate. Next you will be claiming that you had no weapons and no one received money and every one there paid a per die-um for there food.

You had some good things to say at the outset the problem being they were not the reason you were there. You wanted to cause trouble and you succeeded. Don't take your victory as a excuse to be stupid unless that is your natural state and in that sorry case carry on.

You Yellow shirts lol!

Sure go ahead and shoot the protesters who are carrying weapons but how many of those killed had weapons?

Answer = 0

Sorry not a yellow shirt either more like pink. Don't really care for Abhisit but he is the best of the lot.

Can you imagine a red shirt leader in there. Can just see it now law changed to if you don't like us take over three square kilometers of down town Bangkok deprive honest hard working citizens of there means of earning a living. If you think there is a soldier in a hospital invade it and if you don't get your way burn it down. And above all else make no effort to clean up your mess or apologize to the innocent people you have hurt. Oh and one last thing never negotiate just continue to demand the same thing over and over.

Yes they were breaking the law but do think they deserved to be executed?

[mazeltov]

Chandler Vandergrift the injured canadian journalist co-directed a documentary about the unrest in southern Thailand. Chandler also run a interesting blog: The Nation's State

[whybother]

Yes they were breaking the law but do think they deserved to be executed?

The ones shooting at the army probably did. I don't think any protesters sitting at the stage were killed. Just the ones standing behind fuel soaked tyre barricades with firecrackers, slingshots, and often, guns.

[mazeltov]

Yes they were breaking the law but do think they deserved to be executed?

The ones shooting at the army probably did. I don't think any protesters sitting at the stage were killed. Just the ones standing behind fuel soaked tyre barricades with firecrackers, slingshots, and often, guns.

You know it or you just assume it? How you come to that conclusion?

I don't believe you. Neither that 'execution' were justified nor that only those with guns got killed. Have you any evidence for it? If not, please stop posting lies.

[TAWP]

Mazeltov>> You come with accusations that the government shot innocent unarmed people. How about YOU post the evidence for that?

[stepenwolf1958]

Of course he has to prove anything was intentionally done to him,

and that it was under orders, and officially directed at him,

and actually done by soldiers and not men in black or persons unknown.

Noting the lawyers doing the accusing, like political ambulance chasers,

this is another avenue of harassment and political mudslinging.

Right on schedule.

Sad the guy got hurt of course, but he chose to enter

essentially a war zone, or live fire zone and did so anyway.

Nowhere in the article does it state that this reporter got hurt. This is the allegation:

attempted killing of demonstrators and of mayhem which led to a number of deaths and injuries from the army operation on Ratchadamnoen Avenue's Khow Wua intersection and at Satriwittaya School on April 10.

So who is paying for this law suit? Probably not the reporter. Filing law suits do cost money.

I'm surprised that it wasn't Jatuporn Promphan who filed it (but who knows whether he is behind it?), as he seems to be doing and saying absolutely anything he can think of to discredit the government regardless of truth and facts. It is apparent that being charged with terrorism means nothing to him.

PLEASE read again and you can see this words:

Mr Udom Prongfa, a lawyer representing Mr Bodin Watcharobol, a freelance reporter, filed the lawsuit against 13 plaintiffs with the court. The suit claimed the reporter was injured in May 2010, when the army under the order of the Premier sealed off Ratchaprasong Intersection, the main protest site of the UDD in May 2010.

Sorry but don't be so"yellow", please. Doesn't fit to the colour of your eyes.

[David006]

Can someone enlighten me on this please. Can you sue someone for murder? Isn't murder (or attempted murder) a criminal case, not a civil one?

This is Thailand-can do everything as long as you happy to pay the lawyer and legal court fees

Although you may not win but other side will have to stress and spend money to defend, so kind of like having a money throwing competition and see who gives up first. then can also always appeal.

Amazing Thailand

I too would have thought that a criminal case (as stated in report) has to be brought by the authorities? Interestingly the police ignored initial complaint..not surprising though...I don't think we have the full story somehow..

and...don't forget the inevitable counter suit....the usual defense and water muddier...

Suspect this will drag on forever and become a yawn news item on a slow day in paradise....

[mazeltov]

Mazeltov>> You come with accusations that the government shot innocent unarmed people. How about YOU post the evidence for that?

I did already wrote long entries to support my claim that the killed were unarmed and innocent civilians, killed by terrorists. Have i now to repeat me again?

I asked you many times to bring some evidence that the dead civilians were armed, but you never came up with a proof nor anyone else. nor i read somewhere in the newspaper that all or most of the killed were armed. If you have links to such articles - post them.

[hyperdimension]

PLEASE read again and you can see this words:

Mr Udom Prongfa, a lawyer representing Mr Bodin Watcharobol, a freelance reporter, filed the lawsuit against 13 plaintiffs with the court. The suit claimed the reporter was injured in May 2010, when the army under the order of the Premier sealed off Ratchaprasong Intersection, the main protest site of the UDD in May 2010.

Sorry but don't be so"yellow", please. Doesn't fit to the colour of your eyes.

Read the original article at the beginning of this thread: Where does it say that the reporter was injured? I'm not saying that he didn't actually get injured, but the article did not state it. If he did actually get injured, then it's a case of very bad reporting, as it left out a critical piece of information.

I am not a "yellow shirt" supporter, but anti-UDD, anti-Pheu Thai and anti-terrorist.

[jayjay0]

Mazeltov>> You come with accusations that the government shot innocent unarmed people. How about YOU post the evidence for that?

I did already wrote long entries to support my claim that the killed were unarmed and innocent civilians, killed by terrorists. Have i now to repeat me again?

I asked you many times to bring some evidence that the dead civilians were armed, but you never came up with a proof nor anyone else. nor i read somewhere in the newspaper that all or most of the killed were armed. If you have links to such articles - post them.

Yes you have rambled on and on and on. But you have yet to show any proof that a soldier was taking aim at a unarmed red shirt. You display the typical red shirt mentality. Take no credit for your part accuse every one else show no proof of your allegations. I am sorry but a picture of a soldier aiming a gun into a area where there is armed red shirts is not proof of killing innocent citizens. If they were innocent what where they doing there. All the innocent people where at home and sad to say thousands of them should have been there earning there living. But you red shirts having no concience just ignored that. As long as Thaksins money continued to flow into your pockets that was OK.

[tonywebster]

Mazeltov>> You come with accusations that the government shot innocent unarmed people. How about YOU post the evidence for that?

I did already wrote long entries to support my claim that the killed were unarmed and innocent civilians, killed by terrorists. Have i now to repeat me again?

I asked you many times to bring some evidence that the dead civilians were armed, but you never came up with a proof nor anyone else. nor i read somewhere in the newspaper that all or most of the killed were armed. If you have links to such articles - post them.

Yes you have rambled on and on and on. But you have yet to show any proof that a soldier was taking aim at a unarmed red shirt. You display the typical red shirt mentality. Take no credit for your part accuse every one else show no proof of your allegations. I am sorry but a picture of a soldier aiming a gun into a area where there is armed red shirts is not proof of killing innocent citizens. If they were innocent what where they doing there. All the innocent people where at home and sad to say thousands of them should have been there earning there living. But you red shirts having no concience just ignored that. As long as Thaksins money continued to flow into your pockets that was OK.

How many soldiers died and how many protesters/reporters died or were injured by gunfire?

work it out for yourself who was doing all the shooting, it's not rocket science is it?

[jayjay0]

PLEASE read again and you can see this words:

Mr Udom Prongfa, a lawyer representing Mr Bodin Watcharobol, a freelance reporter, filed the lawsuit against 13 plaintiffs with the court. The suit claimed the reporter was injured in May 2010, when the army under the order of the Premier sealed off Ratchaprasong Intersection, the main protest site of the UDD in May 2010.

Sorry but don't be so"yellow", please. Doesn't fit to the colour of your eyes.

Read the original article at the beginning of this thread: http://www.thaivisa....st__p__3765342. Where does it say that the reporter was injured? I'm not saying that he didn't actually get injured, but the article did not state it. If he did actually get injured, then it's a case of very bad reporting, as it left out a critical piece of information.

I am not a "yellow shirt" supporter, but anti-UDD, anti-Pheu Thai and anti-terrorist.

Well said now if we could get the rest of Thailand on that line of thinking Thailand could become the paradise it is meant to be.