Dog Meat Mafia

[WarpSpeed]

I posted this info regarding the Dog Meat Mafia in response to another posters inquiry on another thread and he suggested it was material for a topic of it's own.. I was lambasted for mentioning in another thread that this was how many stray dogs and unfortunately pets alike disappear over night or seemingly so. Though that thread was about Samui I endeavored to explain that it is not exclusive to the north and just like any other 'in demand' meat it could be shipped anywhere, not necessarily limited to where it's been acquired and as well they can/do transport the live dogs to other locations for slaughter..

I also said that while being a dog lover myself, Western sensitivities aside, I see more use for this practice then the common Western practice of euthanasia where the body is then disposed of with no useful purpose whatsoever and less costly too. Not my preference for a meal of course but there are numerous culinary delights in this region of the world that I don't fancy for myself and I do of course draw the line at taking peoples clearly identifiable pets and also suggest that expat pet owners take heed and be aware of the potential hazards of letting your pet roam freely especially if there is no way to easily identify it as a pet.

Anyway flame on, but just try to bare in mind that personal opinion aside I'm just the messenger and not a practitioner of the deed..

[sharking]

Seen these pickups once every two weeks around korat,allways full with dogs.

[canuckamuck]

Why should you get flamed, it happens. Your not the dog trader.

[astral]

potential hazards of letting your pet roam freely especially if there is no way to easily identify it as a pet.

I would expect a pet to have a collar with a name tag, or at the very least a vaccination tag??

[boblunch]

It's all true about the buckets and dog meat. They do it here in Sakon. I occasionally see huge trucks with steel cages stacked fifteen to twenty deep on the bed. The barking and yapping will break your heart.

On long walks, I carry a bb gun pistol for protection from attacking, stray dogs. It works perfectly and the dogs don't get hurt, just surprised as hel_l.

[Lite Beer]

When the bucket man comes I tell our Cocker Spaniel that his taxi is here.

Yes it is sad and I could never give a pet to them.

[terrier123]

Should be posted in Isaan Forum. WE all know it's going on but it's prudent not to voice opinion or publish links.

The life of a human up here is on a par (or lower if foreigner) with the dogs to which you refer. Bon appetite

[surayu]

Should be posted in Isaan Forum. WE all know it's going on but it's prudent not to voice opinion or publish links.

The life of a human up here is on a par (or lower if foreigner) with the dogs to which you refer. Bon appetite

Honestly i din't know about it until the OP came out with a great informative post and link and i am so glad and thankfull he did, i certainly had some suspects and knew about some other countries culinary customs(plus a neighbour and some other local stories), however it doesn't seem to be an illegal activity in this country and people just limit themself to not openly talk about it, if we had to shut up about all injustices legal/illegal aroud here or just pretend they do not exists, we will all end up putting gold chains to lock our front gates (any reference is purely casual and just a coincidence) with the comsequencies this might (eventually)lead to.

[WarpSpeed]

Why should you get flamed, it happens. Your not the dog trader.

Yeah, well sometimes people don't need a reason, but also as I stated my opinion on my belief that it is an affordable and efficient way (if not sad and disappointing) to an endless problem of culling the strays and provide for some hungry people that generally goes against Western mentality and norms where the faithful dog comes into play..

My feeling though is that the current problem needs to be gotten under some semblance of control before it's possible to spay, neuter and otherwise the future generations to bring down the population as a whole which is obviously not a feasible concept under the current circumstances after decades of ignoring the issue..

The stray dog issue is large around my community too and I have children and the diseases carried go way beyond just rabies. My wife is afraid to go to work early in the morning as they all congregate around the entrances to the community in a sense guarding their turf and one or 2 are not so brave but in packs of 3 or more they get real brazen and to make matters worse the locals feed them every night so they defecate and hang around, not to mention bark, fight and yelp...

[zzaa09]

Seen these pickups once every two weeks around korat,allways full with dogs.

Yes, yes. Common practice throughout the country. Mind you....they're just collectors for the mutts. Certainly doesn't reflect the canine diet of those districts, which has historically been reserved for a handful of locals throughout Isaan.

[WarpSpeed]

potential hazards of letting your pet roam freely especially if there is no way to easily identify it as a pet.

I would expect a pet to have a collar with a name tag, or at the very least a vaccination tag??

Yes one would expect that but that's not necessarily the case anywhere let alone in the boonies and as for vaccination tags they aren't required and the ones they provide are worthless and thin and mine broke off my cats collar about 2 weeks later, imagine a dog...

Even still with all of that there is no guarantee that even ID will be respected, many domesticated dogs are even easier for them to catch as they are more desensitized to humans where as the usual stray is fearful of us and usually gives us a wide birth.

I saw a picture of one of those bucket trucks but couldn't find it to post and it was certain that some of the dogs were not strays as they were pure breed and looking in good condition and obviously well cared for unless they pissed off some owner and became worthy of a new bucket for trade..

[WarpSpeed]

When the bucket man comes I tell our Cocker Spaniel that his taxi is here.

Yes it is sad and I could never give a pet to them.

Cocker Spaniel?? I sympathize and know exactly why you tell him that.......

[terrier123]

Should be posted in Isaan Forum. WE all know it's going on but it's prudent not to voice opinion or publish links.

The life of a human up here is on a par (or lower if foreigner) with the dogs to which you refer. Bon appetite

Honestly i din't know about it until the OP came out with a great informative post and link and i am so glad and thankfull he did, i certainly had some suspects and knew about some other countries culinary customs(plus a neighbour and some other local stories), however it doesn't seem to be an illegal activity in this country and people just limit themself to not openly talk about it, if we had to shut up about all injustices legal/illegal aroud here or just pretend they do not exists, we will all end up putting gold chains to lock our front gates (any reference is purely casual and just a coincidence) with the comsequencies this might (eventually)lead to.

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The only "Legal" Thai dog-market is just outside Kusaman, 40 kms east of Sakhom Nakhon. Locals to that area can give you the precise location. Many traders have the small bbq pots at the side of the road enjoying this local delicasy?.

[WarpSpeed]

Should be posted in Isaan Forum. WE all know it's going on but it's prudent not to voice opinion or publish links.

The life of a human up here is on a par (or lower if foreigner) with the dogs to which you refer. Bon appetite

Why's that?? So why do humans live where they are thought less of then the surrounding fauna especially educated expats? I know I wouldn't....

[WarpSpeed]

Seen these pickups once every two weeks around korat,allways full with dogs.

Yes, yes. Common practice throughout the country. Mind you....they're just collectors for the mutts. Certainly doesn't reflect the canine diet of those districts, which has historically been reserved for a handful of locals throughout Isaan.

I agree it is not nearly as common to eat dog here as it is in Cambo and China for example and it's well known that is where most of these are destined for...

[zzaa09]

Seen these pickups once every two weeks around korat,allways full with dogs.

Yes, yes. Common practice throughout the country. Mind you....they're just collectors for the mutts. Certainly doesn't reflect the canine diet of those districts, which has historically been reserved for a handful of locals throughout Isaan.

I agree it is not nearly as common to eat dog here as it is in Cambo and China for example and it's well known that is where most of these are destined for...

The Lao speaking regions of Isaan are known for their canine specialties.

[Lite Beer]

When the bucket man comes I tell our Cocker Spaniel that his taxi is here.

Yes it is sad and I could never give a pet to them.

Cocker Spaniel?? I sympathize and know exactly why you tell him that.......

Ha Ha. Yes they are crazy but lovable.

[PattayaParent]

The only "Legal" Thai dog-market is just outside Kusaman, 40 kms east of Sakhom Nakhon. Locals to that area can give you the precise location. Many traders have the small bbq pots at the side of the road enjoying this local delicasy?.

Didn't there used to be a dog meat market in Chaing Mai? I remember reading that it was removed after tourists complained of seeing dogs heads hanging on hooks identifying the dog meat sellers. Mind I think it was in Lonely Planet I read this so it's probably complete BS.

And by the looks of some of the mangy mutt soi dogs you see around Pattaya I defineitely wouldn't fancy eating one of them.

[bdenner]

As far as I'm concerned the dog traders do a great job the only thing that disturbs me is the reported method of slaughter and miss treatment whilst awaiting their demise. These reports come out of Sakon Nakhon which is just 100km down the road from us.