Where Is The Malt?

[badlee]

So,I am new to the forum but not new to Thailand.Been here in CM for nearly 11 years now.

I LOVE REAL ALE!

Over the past year I have been making the odd Coopers kit,outstanding!

Now I have malted my own corn to make corn ale with and am getting ready to bottle a gallon of apple and snow pear wine.

BUT, I really want to have a go at extract brewing and have heard that MALT EXTRACT is on sale in Phuket. WHERE?

Does anyone know of a supplier in Bankok that will sent to Chiang mai?

Help me out please.

If anyone else want to have a go at an easy brew,give me a shout and I would be more than happy to share my little experience.

Lee.

[BWPattaya]

I am going to guess that you, or someone else, brought the Coopers Kit over from the UK. Home brew kits aren't on sale (as far as I know) because home brewing is illegal. A licence is needed to brew beer. There used to be some information on this subject on Bangkokchat.

I hope I am wrong as I used to brew my own and would do it againg if equipment was available.

[keeniau96]

I used malt extract for making batches of brews back home in Oklahoma about 40 years ago. Turned out quite well, tasty and with a major kick (don't know the alky level). Best if aged about a month or so.

[badlee]

I am going to guess that you, or someone else, brought the Coopers Kit over from the UK. Home brew kits aren't on sale (as far as I know) because home brewing is illegal. A licence is needed to brew beer. There used to be some information on this subject on Bangkokchat.

I hope I am wrong as I used to brew my own and would do it againg if equipment was available.

BWPattaya, not the UK mate,I had it sent up from Singapore! The guy who runs the shop(i-brew) is great and mega helpful.

It is well worth investing in even if you only make 4 batches a year!

My link

[chiliwasabi]

Hey badlee - Coopers is actually one of the largest malt suppliers to Thailand. You may be able to find someone willing to sell you some by tracking who Coopers sells to.

Extract is the way to go but you really need hops to make a great beer. Are you able to get them? I've had them sent to Thailand from Oz once and they got through but I don't know the legalities of sending them in the mail.

[badlee]

The receiving and owning of ingredients is not illegal,it's just the putting them together that's naughty!

How did you know about Coopers being one of the main suppliers of male to Thailand?Good tip mate,will try and follow it up!

[Kilgore Trout]

I am going to guess that you, or someone else, brought the Coopers Kit over from the UK. Home brew kits aren't on sale (as far as I know) because home brewing is illegal. A licence is needed to brew beer. There used to be some information on this subject on Bangkokchat.

I hope I am wrong as I used to brew my own and would do it againg if equipment was available.

BWPattaya, not the UK mate,I had it sent up from Singapore! The guy who runs the shop(i-brew) is great and mega helpful.

It is well worth investing in even if you only make 4 batches a year!

My link

How much was the cost of shipping and import duty etc. once it hit Thailand?

Would love to order but don't know if it is worth it.

[chiliwasabi]

The receiving and owning of ingredients is not illegal,it's just the putting them together that's naughty!

How did you know about Coopers being one of the main suppliers of male to Thailand?Good tip mate,will try and follow it up!

I can't find the article I read it in but here is a snippet from the Coopers website:

"Malt Extract is a natural flavouring and colouring, rich in protein and natural sugar, and recognised as a major natural energy source. Apart from its use in brewing, it's also widely used in baking, confectionery, breakfast cereals, malt beverages, dairy products, condiments and as a caramel substitute.

Coopers Brewery is Australia's largest producer of malt extract. Our malt extract styles are highly sought after by the food industries of the USA, Canada, Japan, China, Malaysia, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Thailand, Korea and India. They are also widely used here in Australia."

Source: http://www.coopers.com.au/corporate/malt-extract

So I can verify that they do at least sell malt to Thailand

[badlee]

I am going to guess that you, or someone else, brought the Coopers Kit over from the UK. Home brew kits aren't on sale (as far as I know) because home brewing is illegal. A licence is needed to brew beer. There used to be some information on this subject on Bangkokchat.

I hope I am wrong as I used to brew my own and would do it againg if equipment was available.

BWPattaya, not the UK mate,I had it sent up from Singapore! The guy who runs the shop(i-brew) is great and mega helpful.

It is well worth investing in even if you only make 4 batches a year!

My link

How much was the cost of shipping and import duty etc. once it hit Thailand?

Would love to order but don't know if it is worth it.

There was the postage which took two weeks and cost about B1000 and a surcharge for international orders 15SGD,than the cost of the gear.I only ordered the fermenter as I had my mum bring some cans fro Perth and that cost about B1000.I think that it was well worth it,'cause you can order up to (I think) 5KG of stoff and the postage stays the same!

Look at www.ibrew.com.sg.

The entire microbrew kit with a beer kit,bottles ane the kitchen sink isB4000 or 175 SGD.

[phuket Mike]

Malt extract is available in Phuket as a home baking ingredient. There is a shop in Phuket town that sells everything for baking and they have malt extract, I know because I bought some for making malt loaf.

[badlee]

Mike,what's the name of the shop? How much does it cost? Do they have a website?

I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed to get some:vampire:

[lomatopo]

The primary fermentation temperature range for ale yeast strains is 17°C – 24°C, and the secondary fermentation temperature (simulating cask conditioning) is the same. Higher temperatures will result in off tastes. You'll need to control the temperature, so be prepared to run the AC or fashion some sort of refrigerator (needs a better thermostat)-based system.

[Milo]

I am going to guess that you, or someone else, brought the Coopers Kit over from the UK. Home brew kits aren't on sale (as far as I know) because home brewing is illegal. A licence is needed to brew beer. There used to be some information on this subject on Bangkokchat.

I hope I am wrong as I used to brew my own and would do it againg if equipment was available.

Believe you're right, my missus went ape, worried about visits from the BiB when she saw what I was doing? Even in January without a temperature controlled room it was a little warm on occasion (I wasn't about to spend good money on a/c for it, lol!), turned out ok but not brilliant. The month I spent with her fretting wasn't worth repeating anyway. Anybody would have thought I'd an opium plantation/meth lab or similar running?

All the same, her reaction taught me they take it pretty seriously here? She's usually pretty laid back.

[badlee]

That's strange,'cause even new in my downstairs bathroom I'm at a nice 25degrees!

My wife seems to think it's ok and the rest of her family AND all the teachers I know are in awe of my mad skillz!

[badlee]

Malt extract is available in Phuket as a home baking ingredient. There is a shop in Phuket town that sells everything for baking and they have malt extract, I know because I bought some for making malt loaf.

Come on mate, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for word on the malt in Phuket:jap:

Just the name of the place would be a great help.

Cheers,Lee.

[phuket Mike]

Malt extract is available in Phuket as a home baking ingredient. There is a shop in Phuket town that sells everything for baking and they have malt extract, I know because I bought some for making malt loaf.

Come on mate, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for word on the malt in Phuket:jap:

Just the name of the place would be a great help.

Cheers,Lee.

Sorry I'd forgotten that I had posted on here. It's 3 year since I was at this shop but I'm fairly sure it's still there. Tried to do a Google map for you but two slow.

Coming into Phuket Town from Chalong end, second set of lights Gas station on your right, turn right. Up this road at the end traffic lights to straight on, or left towards the roundabout and one way system. Turn left towards the roundabout and one way system, on the left is a large shop that sells plates and general kitchen equipment. The bakery supplies shop is opposite, the name has something to do with coffee, but I can't remember. I believe the owner of this shop is the sister of the guy that owns Patong Deli.

Can't remember how much it was, but they had it in 1 litre and 5 litre bottles. Sorry only took a second to find on Google http://www.phuketindex.com/gerbera/

[badlee]

Malt extract is available in Phuket as a home baking ingredient. There is a shop in Phuket town that sells everything for baking and they have malt extract, I know because I bought some for making malt loaf.

Come on mate, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for word on the malt in Phuket:jap:

Just the name of the place would be a great help.

Cheers,Lee.

Sorry I'd forgotten that I had posted on here. It's 3 year since I was at this shop but I'm fairly sure it's still there. Tried to do a Google map for you but two slow.

Coming into Phuket Town from Chalong end, second set of lights Gas station on your right, turn right. Up this road at the end traffic lights to straight on, or left towards the roundabout and one way system. Turn left towards the roundabout and one way system, on the left is a large shop that sells plates and general kitchen equipment. The bakery supplies shop is opposite, the name has something to do with coffee, but I can't remember. I believe the owner of this shop is the sister of the guy that owns Patong Deli.

Can't remember how much it was, but they had it in 1 litre and 5 litre bottles. Sorry only took a second to find on Google http://www.phuketindex.com/gerbera/

Wow,that was great mike,thanks a lot.As I live in Chiang mai I can't just pop down,but am doing my best to contact the shop.Thanks for the help.

[soidogs]

Malt extract is available in Phuket as a home baking ingredient. There is a shop in Phuket town that sells everything for baking and they have malt extract, I know because I bought some for making malt loaf.

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Come on mate, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for word on the malt in Phuket:jap:

Just the name of the place would be a great help.

Cheers,Lee.

Sorry I'd forgotten that I had posted on here. It's 3 year since I was at this shop but I'm fairly sure it's still there. Tried to do a Google map for you but two slow.

Coming into Phuket Town from Chalong end, second set of lights Gas station on your right, turn right. Up this road at the end traffic lights to straight on, or left towards the roundabout and one way system. Turn left towards the roundabout and one way system, on the left is a large shop that sells plates and general kitchen equipment. The bakery supplies shop is opposite, the name has something to do with coffee, but I can't remember. I believe the owner of this shop is the sister of the guy that owns Patong Deli.

Can't remember how much it was, but they had it in 1 litre and 5 litre bottles. Sorry only took a second to find on Google http://www.phuketindex.com/gerbera/

Wow,that was great mike,thanks a lot.As I live in Chiang mai I can't just pop down,but am doing my best to contact the shop.Thanks for the help.

Spoke to the shop today and they will ship.

[badlee]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet:D

How much do they charge for the malt?

[phuket Mike]

The next time I'm in Chiang Mai I will be expecting to try this Real Ale

[badlee]

When it's done Mike,you will be welcome to a drop!

I have to clear all my school work before I can start but.

[badlee]

So,I was in Carefour and saw,near the milk,with the tea ROASTED BARLEY for making Korean or Japanese tea with.

I bought some,took it home and did a micro-mash with it.

Upon taking a reading with my hydrometer,it has lots of sugar,I can make beer from it!

It will taste a bit smokey,but with aggressive hops it should come out great!

[Kilgore Trout]

So,I was in Carefour and saw,near the milk,with the tea ROASTED BARLEY for making Korean or Japanese tea with.

I bought some,took it home and did a micro-mash with it.

Upon taking a reading with my hydrometer,it has lots of sugar,I can make beer from it!

It will taste a bit smokey,but with aggressive hops it should come out great!

what kind of yeast are you planning on using?

[badlee]

So,I was in Carefour and saw,near the milk,with the tea ROASTED BARLEY for making Korean or Japanese tea with.

I bought some,took it home and did a micro-mash with it.

Upon taking a reading with my hydrometer,it has lots of sugar,I can make beer from it!

It will taste a bit smokey,but with aggressive hops it should come out great!

what kind of yeast are you planning on using?

I have some Australian ale yeast in my freezer.I believe it is pretty much the same as Coopers ale yeast.SO,it should do the trick,as Ausie ale yeasts work well at higher temperatures.

[lomatopo]

Roasted barley is un-malted and is used as an adjunct grain in all-grain recipes for stout (~ 15% of the total) and porter (less than 10% of the total).

You might be better off maintaining yeast starters in the refrigerator. You should use a starter to pitch as this will get the fermentation process off to a faster start.

[Kilgore Trout]

Roasted barley is un-malted and is used as an adjunct grain in all-grain recipes for stout (~ 15% of the total) and porter (less than 10% of the total).

You might be better off maintaining yeast starters in the refrigerator. You should use a starter to pitch as this will get the fermentation process off to a faster start.

I know you are right and everyone says that but I have never had a problem just pitching straight into the primary, using activator or dry.

[badlee]

Roasted barley is un-malted and is used as an adjunct grain in all-grain recipes for stout (~ 15% of the total) and porter (less than 10% of the total).

You might be better off maintaining yeast starters in the refrigerator. You should use a starter to pitch as this will get the fermentation process off to a faster start.

It is malted I reckon,otherwise I wouldn't get a hydrometer reading of 1020 after a short mash.

[Kilgore Trout]

Roasted barley is un-malted and is used as an adjunct grain in all-grain recipes for stout (~ 15% of the total) and porter (less than 10% of the total).

You might be better off maintaining yeast starters in the refrigerator. You should use a starter to pitch as this will get the fermentation process off to a faster start.

It is malted I reckon,otherwise I wouldn't get a hydrometer reading of 1020 after a short mash.

I think he's saying it might be like trying to make wort with carapils or something similar, just because it is malt does not mean it will ferment in the right way to produce alcohol.

Give it a try though; I am certainly interested to see what happens

[chiliwasabi]

I wouldn't be keeping my yeast in the freezer if I was you Badlee - Hops yes, yeast no.

Grab a few bottles of Coopers Pale Ale and culture up the yeast it'll be heaps better than the stuff they put in their kits. Just find the youngest bottles you can find.

I'd also recommend setting up a fermenting fridge or box to control the temps - you really want to keep your ales at around 18-20 and it'll taste a lot better.

[badlee]

I wouldn't be keeping my yeast in the freezer if I was you Badlee - Hops yes, yeast no.

Grab a few bottles of Coopers Pale Ale and culture up the yeast it'll be heaps better than the stuff they put in their kits. Just find the youngest bottles you can find.

I'd also recommend setting up a fermenting fridge or box to control the temps - you really want to keep your ales at around 18-20 and it'll taste a lot better.

Got one mate! A big washing machine box lined with foam and sealed.In the summer I kept my Coopers English Bitter at an even 23c when it was 41c outside.

As for the yeast,it's something my great uncle in Aus told me he has been doing with his for the past 20 years,so I thought I would go with it.