Thai MP Jatuporn Threatens To Resume Red-Shirt Street Protest

[Phatcharanan]

Tourists stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take your families and money where the laws are enforced and rioters cannot threaten you and your loved ones every time they feel like it.

Farangs this is getting to look like the first signs of major civil unrest.

What can we all do as a group to help? Any ideas?

Stop being such a drama queen,

[IAMSOBAD]

Thanks for sharing.

Your comment is really on topic.

You red buttts are all alike.

Hit and run with snide personal attacks to fellow posters instead of staying on topic.

[moe666]

how many Thai politicians are graduates from a Technical School were they learned their politics and how to brawl for the name of the school.

[whybother]

Either you don't read Thai or you are deliberately being misleading for some obscure reason. The sound "S" is of course well represented in Thai and many names begin with one of the Thai alphabet "S" variants.

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But then I expect you already knew that.

Sorry for being obtuse. You are missing my point. The letter "S" only transliterates all of these sounds. So even if anyone took offence for being accused of having ill intent to the country, he didn't even name a letter that exists anywhere in their names. A very clever legal way of getting tongues wagging without defaming anyone.

Unless Simon, or Sam, or Steve have any ill intent to the country.

I wonder if his quote has be translated. Maybe he said (in Thai) "the letter S or the letter S or the letter S or the letter S" with the appropriate tones.

[Bagwan]

We should hand murderers, not give them amnesty.

You mean give them a 'happy ending'?  

[timekeeper]

''The red shirts will pour into the streets to oppose the amnesty, he said,''

we saw the reds pour onto the streets of Bangkok last Sunday

all 3,500 of them, a true representation of the proportion of red supporters left from the 60 million population in Thailand

Thaksin and the reds are a spent force represented by a noisy monkey like lunatic that is Jatuporn

just ignore them, they will fade away..............

[cyberia]

We should hand murderers, not give them amnesty.

and who is "We"?

Edited September 24, 2010 by cyberia

[slapout]

Another self proclaimed red shirt spokesman/leader, who may be a blessing in disguise for the country. He offers no alternatives to any proposal he disagrees with, no party platform to help the majority of the population, and seems to put foot in mouth quite often. His whole persona may have a lot to do with the decline active supporters for his cause. He would appear to not sacrifice meals while carrying on his various campaigns, he probably talks with a mouth full of food, another admiral characteristic to go with his other traits.

[basjke]

The red shirts will pour into the streets to oppose the amnesty, he said

I might be wrong but wasn't amnesty one of their demands not so long ago?

[Bagwan]

p.s. I don't think Chavalit and Benny Hill were ever photographed together...coincidence? OR... it just might indicate they are one and the same.

Benny Hill is dead. This other guy is dead only from the neck upwards. An Internet search coughed up this vignette.

General Chavalit Yongchaiyudh – Thailand's 22nd Prime Minister took office at the age of 64, after many failed bids during decades that he eyed the prime minister office. Chavalit has long been plagued with accusations of bribery and corruption. And regardless the fact that many educated Thais questioned his integrity to lead the country, he was often cited as the prime minister-in-waiting. 

Chavalit started his political career, as Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, during the term of General Chatichai Choonhavan in 1988. He was later appointed Minister of Interior, in 1992 to 1994, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, in 1995 to 1996.

In November 1993, the home of Newin Chidchob in Buriram was the recipient of two hand grenades. Unhurt by the blasts, Newin said that he had received the death threats following the no-confidence debate where he strongly criticized the commerce minister, and interior minister General Chavalit Yongchaiyudh.

A no-confidence vote in late 1996, following a political turmoil, resulted in the Parliament dissolution, which removed then Prime Minister Banharn Silpa-Archa. The General Election was held and on 17 November 1996, the New Aspiration Party led by General Chavalit won the most seats and its leader became Prime Minister, with the approval of six coalition parties: the New Aspiration, Chart Pattana, Social Action, Thai Citizen, Seri Dhamma and Mass Citizen.

Political commentators, at that time, told that it was the dirtiest campaign in modern history; widespread vote-buying and Chavalit's decision to virtually duplicate six-party coalition that was ousted in September (1996) amid charges of fraud and corruption has added to general cynicism about country's political system.

General Chavalit was appointed 22nd Prime Minister, by the Royal Decree of King Rama IX, on 25 November 1996. Once in office, he encountered pressure from many political factions which, coinciding with the increasing economic problems, forced him to resign, primarily due to the Asian Financial Crisis. Eventually, he stepped down on 6 November 1997, when the economic crisis had its final blow on Thailand and the unrest spread over.

Earlier, in the mid of May 1997, the Thai baht was hit by massive speculative attacks. On 30 June 1996, Prime Minister Chavalit Yongchaiyudh said that he would not devalue the baht. This was the spark that ignited the Asian Financial Crisis as the Thai government failed to defend its hard currency, which was pegged to the U.S. dollar.

Thailand's booming economy came to a halt amid massive layoffs in finance, real estate, and construction that resulted in huge numbers of workers returning to their villages in the countryside. Thai baht devalued swiftly and lost more than half of its value. Thai stock market dropped 75% in 1997.

Later on, on 7 October 2008, then Deputy Prime Minister Chavalit Yongchaiyudh resigned and admitted partial responsibility for violence due to police tear gas clearance of Parliament blockade, causing injuries to 116 protesters, 21, seriously. His resignation letter stated: "I want to show my responsibility for this operation."

A heck of a Christmas present this year (2008) would be for Chavalit to come back.

An ignoramus in many aspects, he resigned over the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis by telling the world he knew nothing about economics! When told that Thailand should not have prime ministers so ignorant that they know nothing about economics, the response was, "This is Thailand" (TiT). 

Have political dinosaurs not done enough damage? Chavallit belongs in a museum, stuffed and left to wallow in his own grandeur. His own light shines brightly enough for the global rest of us, and if he is ensconced in a museum, away from important matters, all the better to Thailand.

But there is a dearth in the "Land of Smiles" (LoS) of benevolent talent, and General Chavalit, in a twisted sense, fills that gap. Or is recruited to fill it. And time marches on...

[Robby nz]

What amazes me is that people actually voted for him, must have been a damm good sized parcel of money per voter for a retard to get elected.

Isnt he a list MP?

If that is the case then no one actually voted for him.

He would probably get about the same number next election.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Robby nz

[brahmburgers]

Did Chalerm have any kids out of wedlock? That might explain why Jatuporn is such a loose cannon and why Charlerm loves him like a love child.

[SomTumTiger]

If Jatuporn starts up protests again, look for him to go the way of Seh Deang

[Buchholz]

The red shirts will pour into the streets to oppose the amnesty, he said

I might be wrong but wasn't amnesty one of their demands not so long ago?

It was, but that was a very long time ago...

The Nation - September 21, 2010

Chalerm to seek Thaksin's approval on campaign platforms

Pheu Thai MP Chalerm Yoobamrung on Tuesday said he would soon meet with ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra to seek his approval for five campaign platforms at the next poll.

"Should Thaksin travel to the region, I will take a trip to meet and get his blessing for the Pheu Thai policies," he said.

The five platforms are:

- To bring back the suspended 1997 Constitution,

- To impose five-year debt moratorium for farmers owing less than Bt500,000 and loan refinance for those with higher debt but not exceeding Bt1 million.

- To carry on policies initiated by Thaksin.

- To grant amnesty for all political cases dating back to September 19, 2006 and to pardon the political convicts if Pheu Thai Party secures election victory with a simple majority.

- To promote Thaksin as the campaign's selling point.

Chalerm voiced confidence that Phue Thai could manage to form a single-party government.

[animatic]

In a separate interview, Pheu Thai chairman Chavalit Yongchaiyudh said he suspected the amnesty was designed to pave way for a barred politician, whose initial is S, to resume his political career and become the Bhum Jai Thai leader ahead of the next poll.

Are defamation laws in Thailand really so draconian that in many cases we see this ridiculous reference to 'whose initial is ...'. Or is this one of those really Thai things we farang do not need to understand ?

Puzzled

Both.

[animatic]

The red shirts will pour into the streets to oppose the amnesty, he said

I might be wrong but wasn't amnesty one of their demands not so long ago?

Yes, but Jatuporn is eating up most of their food,

so they suffer short term memory loss.

[animatic]

If Jatuporn starts up protests again, look for him to go the way of Seh Deang

Wouldn't surprise, but he would make a hel_l of a poor martyr to rally round.

[Ricardo]

Jatuporn is willing to lead street-protests against a possible amnesty, which would (amongst other things) pardon some of the ordinary-people who followed his/UDD's leadership over-the-cliff, and are often still paying-the-price, unlike himself.

So much for his caring about the ordinary people. He has completely 'lost the plot'.

If he fears that the Bill might be used, to pardon the 'wrong people', as an MP he would surely have the chance to speak out about this, or have try to have the Bill modified, when it came before Parliament ? Or would this be too democratic and peaceful for him ?

So he throws the baby, helping some of his mis-led poor supporters, out with the bath-water, trying to blame the government for all the wrongs during the Bloody Red-Shirt riots peaceful-protests.

[Motoon]

Either you don't read Thai or you are deliberately being misleading for some obscure reason. The sound "S" is of course well represented in Thai and many names begin with one of the Thai alphabet "S" variants.

ซอ

ศอ

ษอ

สอ

But then I expect you already knew that.

Sorry for being obtuse. You are missing my point. The letter "S" only transliterates all of these sounds. So even if anyone took offence for being accused of having ill intent to the country, he didn't even name a letter that exists anywhere in their names. A very clever legal way of getting tongues wagging without defaming anyone.

Unless Simon, or Sam, or Steve have any ill intent to the country.

Obscure, but I see what you mean.

Best.

The original Chavalit statement was made in Thai refering directly to a Thai letter. Therefore one has to assume that "Thai at heart's" statement is not obscure but illogical...

[IAMSOBAD]

Top Ten List of Politicians in Thailand That Are Not Corrupt

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Never mind ...couldnt think of any

[SamritT]

If you don't look into Chuan's brother, and Chuan's son bank account, Chuan is clean. However, if you do, . . . .

[somo]

We should hand murderers, not give them amnesty.

I didn't think they hand murderers in Thailand but foot them.

[hoaker]

Why is he free to terrorize Thailand?

He should be stripped naked...humiliated...searched and put in jail with his fellow red leaders until trial.

Strip his MP status before he starts a civil war.

I say let him start it. Something good will come out of this. "Once on the brink, people will change".

[hoaker]

Tourists stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take your families and money where the laws are enforced and rioters cannot threaten you and your loved ones every time they feel like it.

Farangs this is getting to look like the first signs of major civil unrest.

What can we all do as a group to help? Any ideas?

There is nothing anyone can do. It has become an embedded culture of Thailand to start a protest when the minority doesn't like something, itis the way of life, and will continue without a doubt.

[hyperdimension]

The imbecile is crying and making threats like a spoiled brat because there is nothing in it for him or his friends in jail or on the run (including Thaksin). (The Bill says the "masterminds" (which I assume are the core leaders) get no amnesty).

Edited September 24, 2010 by hyperdimension

[SamritT]

Posted Today, 14:20 -- DSI Looks for More Clues About Red-Shirt Protesters' Deaths at Temple -- Tan Network 2010-09-24. . . . . . .Better late than never. All DNA stain will be degraded under the sun/rain by now. More than 4 months have pass.

[siampolee]

With all the confusion concerning the letters of the Thai alphabet my theory is that the letter "S" for Social change has got confused with the letter "T" for Toby A.K.A. Thaksin hence the dilemma.

Please see the video link below for clarification as the the make up of the Red Shirt style of leadership and judgement in the event that they should happen to assume power

[IAMSOBAD]

I would love to read a headline that said:

Jatuporn spoke again but nobody listened. His rants have made his family claim he was adopted by a pack of wild monkeys! His godfather Thaksin has disowned him.

[rubl]

I would love to read a headline that said:

Jatuporn spoke again but nobody listened. His rants have made his family claim he was adopted by a pack of wild monkeys! His godfather Thaksin has disowned him.

I'm sure if you look past the big mouth, he has a kind, big heart, is friendly with children and his mother still tells proudly to anyone who listens (and a few who don't) 'that's my boy'. Mothers, you have to love them. Some kids should have been thrown away with the bathwater though

Edited September 24, 2010 by rubl

[IAMSOBAD]

Rubl you always make a quality post. Hows the BP?

Reading this news all the time could give us all a stroke.