Addicted?

[chiang mai]

Does posting more than a few times each day on any forum indicate that perhaps some ex-pats in Thailand are not making the most of their time in Thailand/retirement years and/or becoming addicted to forums as a way of life as a substitute for other things?

[MrRichard2009]

I think so yes, but it's not just Thai related, many people in the world have this internet problem. Most of the time it's because of a social disorder, they have trouble in social situations, making friends, keeping friends, thinking people are out to get them so they can't get the interactions all humans need. So they find a captive group like the internet where even the most extreme person can have a friend to get the social interactions they need. Interestingly negative responses feed the same need, so often times those kinds of people become pestering or harassing and say people are picking on them. They often create controversy so it can be all about them. What happens in the end studies show is that other like minded people come along and some chat room becomes dominated by these types of people in the end and those who speak out against them get run off or banned.

I am not sure if it is good or bad .... I am glad these people have" places to go " but studies show that the behavior and the disorder actually becomes worse, in real life people would walk away or maybe punch someone, so the person would have to change his personality disorder, on the internet they end up actually taking a large amount of control of the situation and that feeds and increases the ego and disorder making the people falsely believe it's everyone else who is "crazy". They may dominate a chat room and make numerous complaints over the years about numerous things and people and rather than being made to know that they are the root of all these problems and the cause they mistakenly feel like the chat room hero and the problem worsens.

It is very rare for this type of person without actually getting medical help to be able to overcome this. Over time it gets worse and worse and harder and harder to cure, the patent will without proper help almost never be able to reenter a world of human interaction with ease. This is because people face to face don't have moderators and you can't ban john from the local coffee shop because he used a racial slur in the grocery store, and people face to face don't tolerate sarcasm or or other rude behaviors that they are in the habit of doing, just because it falls within the chat room rules.

The real problem is that the reason people spend each and evey day in a chat room is because they were already a failure outside of it so going back when your habits, behaviors and expectations are now worsened is very hard. ..... Saying all that I think keeping people like that or at least giving them, an opportunity to have these "places to go" is better for everyone outside of the chat rooms so as to not have to deal with them. And since they will probably never be all that happy anyplace else I am glad they have somewhere to go.

The bottom line is the normal or non addicted person only comes and goes and can take it or leave it so it's no big thing to them ........Sso lets not belittle the disabled person who has very few other options barring medical help

[chiang mai]

Interesting, I saw an orthopaedic surgeon last week at Bumrungrad who told me that the number of cases he sees of people with neck problems has increased several hundred fold in the past year, mostly all as a result of computer related addiction. The problem is therefore not only physiological but has physical implications also.

[StreetCowboy]

I think so yes, but it's not just Thai related, many people in the world have this internet problem. Most of the time it's because of a social disorder, they have trouble in social situations, making friends, keeping friends, thinking people are out to get them so they can't get the interactions all humans need. So they find a captive group like the internet where even the most extreme person can have a friend to get the social interactions they need. Interestingly negative responses feed the same need, so often times those kinds of people become pestering or harassing and say people are picking on them. They often create controversy so it can be all about them. What happens in the end studies show is that other like minded people come along and some chat room becomes dominated by these types of people in the end and those who speak out against them get run off or banned.

I am not sure if it is good or bad .... I am glad these people have" places to go " but studies show that the behavior and the disorder actually becomes worse, in real life people would walk away or maybe punch someone, so the person would have to change his personality disorder, on the internet they end up actually taking a large amount of control of the situation and that feeds and increases the ego and disorder making the people falsely believe it's everyone else who is "crazy". They may dominate a chat room and make numerous complaints over the years about numerous things and people and rather than being made to know that they are the root of all these problems and the cause they mistakenly feel like the chat room hero and the problem worsens.

It is very rare for this type of person without actually getting medical help to be able to overcome this. Over time it gets worse and worse and harder and harder to cure, the patent will without proper help almost never be able to reenter a world of human interaction with ease. This is because people face to face don't have moderators and you can't ban john from the local coffee shop because he used a racial slur in the grocery store, and people face to face don't tolerate sarcasm or or other rude behaviors that they are in the habit of doing, just because it falls within the chat room rules.

The real problem is that the reason people spend each and evey day in a chat room is because they were already a failure outside of it so going back when your habits, behaviors and expectations are now worsened is very hard. ..... Saying all that I think keeping people like that or at least giving them, an opportunity to have these "places to go" is better for everyone outside of the chat rooms so as to not have to deal with them. And since they will probably never be all that happy anyplace else I am glad they have somewhere to go.

The bottom line is the normal or non addicted person only comes and goes and can take it or leave it so it's no big thing to them ........Sso lets not belittle the disabled person who has very few other options barring medical help

You are a cruel and heartless man.

As Vic Reeves would say "Let it lie!"

SC

I use it as a substitute for drinking and television. My right arm is withering, as well, and my eye-sight improving.

[gotlost]

You had me worried I only average 16 post per day.

[geriatrickid]

What if a hot babe is involved? I don't think there should be any limits when it comes to affairs of the heart (or wallet).

[mojo80]

I think so yes, but it's not just Thai related, many people in the world have this internet problem. Most of the time it's because of a social disorder, they have trouble in social situations, making friends, keeping friends, thinking people are out to get them so they can't get the interactions all humans need. So they find a captive group like the internet where even the most extreme person can have a friend to get the social interactions they need. Interestingly negative responses feed the same need, so often times those kinds of people become pestering or harassing and say people are picking on them. They often create controversy so it can be all about them. What happens in the end studies show is that other like minded people come along and some chat room becomes dominated by these types of people in the end and those who speak out against them get run off or banned.

I am not sure if it is good or bad .... I am glad these people have" places to go " but studies show that the behavior and the disorder actually becomes worse, in real life people would walk away or maybe punch someone, so the person would have to change his personality disorder, on the internet they end up actually taking a large amount of control of the situation and that feeds and increases the ego and disorder making the people falsely believe it's everyone else who is "crazy". They may dominate a chat room and make numerous complaints over the years about numerous things and people and rather than being made to know that they are the root of all these problems and the cause they mistakenly feel like the chat room hero and the problem worsens.

It is very rare for this type of person without actually getting medical help to be able to overcome this. Over time it gets worse and worse and harder and harder to cure, the patent will without proper help almost never be able to reenter a world of human interaction with ease. This is because people face to face don't have moderators and you can't ban john from the local coffee shop because he used a racial slur in the grocery store, and people face to face don't tolerate sarcasm or or other rude behaviors that they are in the habit of doing, just because it falls within the chat room rules.

The real problem is that the reason people spend each and evey day in a chat room is because they were already a failure outside of it so going back when your habits, behaviors and expectations are now worsened is very hard. ..... Saying all that I think keeping people like that or at least giving them, an opportunity to have these "places to go" is better for everyone outside of the chat rooms so as to not have to deal with them. And since they will probably never be all that happy anyplace else I am glad they have somewhere to go.

The bottom line is the normal or non addicted person only comes and goes and can take it or leave it so it's no big thing to them ........Sso lets not belittle the disabled person who has very few other options barring medical help

Fantastic post, very accurate, it reminds me of a couple of members 1 more than most. i almost feel sorry for them!

[Thules]

An interesting and well constructed post, MrRichard.

Is there a name for the specific therapy such addicts would be advised to undertake, and is any particular form of medication prescribed ?

[gotlost]

Wait tell Classified and Webfact see this thread they will go nuts. They go over 50 on most days. I'm only up to 33 for today.

[StreetCowboy]

What if a hot babe is involved? I don't think there should be any limits when it comes to affairs of the heart (or wallet).

you mean 'heart and wallet'.

Not quite sure what the difference is, anyway. Maybe it should be heartandwallet

SC

[Loz]

Forums are awesome!

I got into them through car forums in the past. Made friends with whom I would meet regularly. Take trips abroad, go to festivals, have dinner parties and have "spirited drives in the country" as well as dedicated track days.

The real friendships that arose from the online owners club forums were great. There were of course, fall outs and black sheeps of the family. By and large though, it opened good doors. When I decided to explore THailand I happened upon a couple of forums that were informative and since moving here I have found them "entertaining". Nothing wrong with lively discussion. Every now and then some real gems emerge. I pity the folk who don't really understand or accept how they work. If you got peeved and walked out on this forum amonth ago over some silly post you might have missed Mark45y's inspired posts of the last few weeks. People like him keep the spark alive and if he posts prolifically, I enjoy sifting through to find something that appeals to me in which I might want to participate.

I'm SURE there are far more passive members than active members. Same in every forum. If you ever don't like a forum, I think you have to look first at your contribution to it and then see if your critism is justified. So often the stone throwers have barely offered any meaningful contribution and are just "takers".

But like the Murphy's, I'm not bitter.

[Thules]

Yes, Loz, forums can be very enjoyable for all the reasons you stated and maybe a few more. However OP's pole directly related to those who would be to the far right in a forum posting bell curve.

I spend a fair amount of time online, and therefore, I can only imagine how much time those posters spend if they post 20 + times the average rate. (and I don't think it's necessarily because they have super fast brains, fingers, or even faster internet connections )

[britmaveric]

Moderation in everything one does - however if someone is happy posting 50x a day then up to them.

[StreetCowboy]

Moderation in everything one does - however if someone is happy posting 50x a day then up to them.

You'll get us all closed down! You know full well that is a prohibited topic

SC

[Loz]

Agreed, Thules

I should add then then Thailand's climate probably promotes indoor activities and social animals that we are. if we can't socialise out and about, the next best thing is to do it on the PC. I suspect that is why some prolific posters exist without suffering from any kind of "dissorder".

I'd say content of posts is more telling than the ammount of posts.

As someone who beat me at poker said recently, "Stupid is as stupid does!"

[MrRichard2009]

I think so yes, but it's not just Thai related, many people in the world have this internet problem. Most of the time it's because of a social disorder, they have trouble in social situations, making friends, keeping friends, thinking people are out to get them so they can't get the interactions all humans need. So they find a captive group like the internet where even the most extreme person can have a friend to get the social interactions they need. Interestingly negative responses feed the same need, so often times those kinds of people become pestering or harassing and say people are picking on them. They often create controversy so it can be all about them. What happens in the end studies show is that other like minded people come along and some chat room becomes dominated by these types of people in the end and those who speak out against them get run off or banned.

I am not sure if it is good or bad .... I am glad these people have" places to go " but studies show that the behavior and the disorder actually becomes worse, in real life people would walk away or maybe punch someone, so the person would have to change his personality disorder, on the internet they end up actually taking a large amount of control of the situation and that feeds and increases the ego and disorder making the people falsely believe it's everyone else who is "crazy". They may dominate a chat room and make numerous complaints over the years about numerous things and people and rather than being made to know that they are the root of all these problems and the cause they mistakenly feel like the chat room hero and the problem worsens.

It is very rare for this type of person without actually getting medical help to be able to overcome this. Over time it gets worse and worse and harder and harder to cure, the patent will without proper help almost never be able to reenter a world of human interaction with ease. This is because people face to face don't have moderators and you can't ban john from the local coffee shop because he used a racial slur in the grocery store, and people face to face don't tolerate sarcasm or or other rude behaviors that they are in the habit of doing, just because it falls within the chat room rules.

The real problem is that the reason people spend each and evey day in a chat room is because they were already a failure outside of it so going back when your habits, behaviors and expectations are now worsened is very hard. ..... Saying all that I think keeping people like that or at least giving them, an opportunity to have these "places to go" is better for everyone outside of the chat rooms so as to not have to deal with them. And since they will probably never be all that happy anyplace else I am glad they have somewhere to go.

The bottom line is the normal or non addicted person only comes and goes and can take it or leave it so it's no big thing to them ........Sso lets not belittle the disabled person who has very few other options barring medical help

Fantastic post, very accurate, it reminds me of a couple of members 1 more than most. i almost feel sorry for them!

I was am a bit of an expert in this ....... I have always wondered how chat rooms would effect the shut in's or anti social which of course gravitate to them in great numbers, Mentally ill people with very little money or friends use chat rooms in great numbers ...... The studies and results are pretty clear at this point.

One note I would make is it's not the number of posts a person makes, someone who posted 10000 posts might only spend 20 min a day over years, it's a matter of TIME and how much internet time vs time spent in other social situations, so even if it was only 20 min on the net but 0 elsewhere it might be a problem, but most of the time it's on the net unless they have to buy food or go to work or sleep ect.

Well as far as being sorry .... you might not be sorry today but as I have stated it gets worse and worse .... if you almost feel sorry today in 10 years that person with the same pattern of behavior will be in real trouble while making up stories about his golfing buddies or parties he has gone to ect. The over the top kind of behavior is just like when an alcoholic lies about drinking they start to lie about all the fun things off the internet they do. They are already living in a fantasy world on the net and then it extends to making up a non net fantasy world to show they are really just like everyone else but just a really fast typist !

In the beginning people thought that it could just be another safe alternative to drinking addictions or some other obsession and would have no impact on the overall mental health of someone if they just chatted all day every day in a healthy appropriate manner, that has been shown to be false except in VERY rare situations, mostly involving work not entertainment, the reason being on the net even a nice otherwise friendly person can lose their temper much more easily and begins to develop new habits and behavior over time. They become less tolerant more aggressive they begin to dismiss people who their friend says is unfriendly and become much more group controlled rather than an individual. In the real world you might just ignore someone because they are a nut ..... on the net you can get some feel good reaction in the brain by saying ...YOUR ON IGNORE ..... So the nice little old lady who would never have said that face to face now begins a habit of new behavior because it makes her brain feel good. And it's complemented when her friends say good job or agree. Sometimes chat rooms even escalate to people calling the police because the overall chat behaviors become so crazy ...... the police become involved not because anyone was harmed but are used as a chat room patsy for some addicted chatter, this in much more common than you might think, addicted chatters calling the police to try and retaliate against some chatter, or even making up stories to the chat room and saying they called the police when they know that would be nonsense.

[MrRichard2009]

An interesting and well constructed post, MrRichard.

Is there a name for the specific therapy such addicts would be advised to undertake, and is any particular form of medication prescribed ?

It's called Internet Addiction ..... you can find many centers and websites for help ......... the therapy is pretty similar to other addictions and I would not advise drugs to solve addiction like using methadone for example, but yes some doctors would advise that mostly in the from of beta blockers the theory being that while the internet addiction stimulus is removed the beta blockers fool the brain into not noticing.

But once again internet addiction is most often simply a result of another condition like Anti Social Personality Disorder ........... A Doctor would try and find out WHY they had an internet addiction and treat the root cause

[mrtoad]

No

[mrtoad]

An interesting and well constructed post, MrRichard.

Is there a name for the specific therapy such addicts would be advised to undertake, and is any particular form of medication prescribed ?

It's called Internet Addiction ..... you can find many centers and websites for help ......... the therapy is pretty similar to other addictions and I would not advise drugs to solve addiction like using methadone for example, but yes some doctors would advise that mostly in the from of beta blockers the theory being that while the internet addiction stimulus is removed the beta blockers fool the brain into not noticing.

But once again internet addiction is most often simply a result of another condition like Anti Social Personality Disorder ........... A Doctor would try and find out WHY they had an internet addiction and treat the root cause

I'm intrigued, what medication or therapy would you suggest? Also curious as to the use of Beta Blockers in Addiction? Please put up some quantified research on that. Thanks.

P.S. I have over 7,000 posts, does that mean I have a Personality Disorder?

[chiang mai]

An interesting and well constructed post, MrRichard.

Is there a name for the specific therapy such addicts would be advised to undertake, and is any particular form of medication prescribed ?

It's called Internet Addiction ..... you can find many centers and websites for help ......... the therapy is pretty similar to other addictions and I would not advise drugs to solve addiction like using methadone for example, but yes some doctors would advise that mostly in the from of beta blockers the theory being that while the internet addiction stimulus is removed the beta blockers fool the brain into not noticing.

But once again internet addiction is most often simply a result of another condition like Anti Social Personality Disorder ........... A Doctor would try and find out WHY they had an internet addiction and treat the root cause

I'm intrigued, what medication or therapy would you suggest? Also curious as to the use of Beta Blockers in Addiction? Please put up some quantified research on that. Thanks.

P.S. I have over 7,000 posts, does that mean I have a Personality Disorder?

I'm not sure that the total number of posts is the issue since it's more about the amount of time spent posting them. It's a bit like a hobby isn't it, do it once in while and it's recreational, do it all day long every day and it's an addiction - 50 posts a day for example has got to be close to spending an entire working day, posting.

[mrtoad]

I'm not sure that the total number of posts is the issue since it's more about the amount of time spent posting them. It's a bit like a hobby isn't it, do it once in while and it's recreational, do it all day long every day and it's an addiction - 50 posts a day for example has got to be close to spending an entire working day, posting.

Think you might have missed out on the irony of what I was posting.

[MrRichard2009]

An interesting and well constructed post, MrRichard.

Is there a name for the specific therapy such addicts would be advised to undertake, and is any particular form of medication prescribed ?

It's called Internet Addiction ..... you can find many centers and websites for help ......... the therapy is pretty similar to other addictions and I would not advise drugs to solve addiction like using methadone for example, but yes some doctors would advise that mostly in the from of beta blockers the theory being that while the internet addiction stimulus is removed the beta blockers fool the brain into not noticing.

But once again internet addiction is most often simply a result of another condition like Anti Social Personality Disorder ........... A Doctor would try and find out WHY they had an internet addiction and treat the root cause

I'm intrigued, what medication or therapy would you suggest? Also curious as to the use of Beta Blockers in Addiction? Please put up some quantified research on that. Thanks.

P.S. I have over 7,000 posts, does that mean I have a Personality Disorder?

You seem a little argumentative ........ the reason they would be used by people other than me is because it reduces stress hormones, I am not going to find research for you sorry.

Dopamine blockers would be used by some as well for the same basic reason of fooling the brain ... not to reduce the stress hormone ..... I am not condoning any drug use to solve addiction just saying what others sometimes do

You don't seem like you have a disorder to me but I am not a Doctor ...... most people would say that if you think you might have a problem it's best to find out for sure

My suggested therapy would be the same for all addicts .......... just stop doing it, and if you can't go to an addiction treatment specialist

My focus has always been on the results of this issue not the treatment of it so I am not really interested in or qualified to advise what treatment is better than another .......... their are plenty to chose from for sure

[mrtoad]

You seem a little argumentative ........ the reason they would be used by people other than me is because it reduces stress hormones, I am not going to find research for you sorry.

You don't seem like you have a disorder to me but I am not a Doctor ...... most people would say that if you think you might have a problem it's best to find out for sure

My suggested therapy would be the same for all addicts .......... just stop doing it, and if you can't go to an addiction treatment specialist

My focus has always been on the results of this issue not the treatment of it so I am not really interested in or qualified to advise what treatment is better than another .......... their are plenty to chose from for sure

Not at all, I am genuinely interested in what you are saying. There is no need for you to research for me at all. I have asked a simple question, which you seem reluctant to answer.

As for the rest, thanks, but I am more interested in the Beta Blockers and the types of Therapy that you are suggesting (as an expert)along with the quantified research that you are suggesting is available.

[MrRichard2009]

You seem a little argumentative ........ the reason they would be used by people other than me is because it reduces stress hormones, I am not going to find research for you sorry.

You don't seem like you have a disorder to me but I am not a Doctor ...... most people would say that if you think you might have a problem it's best to find out for sure

My suggested therapy would be the same for all addicts .......... just stop doing it, and if you can't go to an addiction treatment specialist

My focus has always been on the results of this issue not the treatment of it so I am not really interested in or qualified to advise what treatment is better than another .......... their are plenty to chose from for sure

Not at all, I am genuinely interested in what you are saying. There is no need for you to research for me at all. I have asked a simple question, which you seem reluctant to answer.

As for the rest, thanks, but I am more interested in the Beta Blockers and the types of Therapy that you are suggesting (as an expert)along with the quantified research that you are suggesting is available.

Like I said I am an expert in the results of this issue not the treatment of this or any other addictions .......... I am not suggesting any form of treatment or offering any diagnosis either . ..... my expertise and studies are in the results of the problem not the cure

Their is tons of research available you could just google it and spend a month reading about it ......... what did I not answer ?

[jdinasia]

Bitter! Table for one! Your table by yourself is right over there in the corner

Please tell us all about these "studies' that you state exist and where we can all read yp on them

I think so yes, but it's not just Thai related, many people in the world have this internet problem. Most of the time it's because of a social disorder, they have trouble in social situations, making friends, keeping friends, thinking people are out to get them so they can't get the interactions all humans need. So they find a captive group like the internet where even the most extreme person can have a friend to get the social interactions they need. Interestingly negative responses feed the same need, so often times those kinds of people become pestering or harassing and say people are picking on them. They often create controversy so it can be all about them. What happens in the end studies show is that other like minded people come along and some chat room becomes dominated by these types of people in the end and those who speak out against them get run off or banned.

I am not sure if it is good or bad .... I am glad these people have" places to go " but studies show that the behavior and the disorder actually becomes worse, in real life people would walk away or maybe punch someone, so the person would have to change his personality disorder, on the internet they end up actually taking a large amount of control of the situation and that feeds and increases the ego and disorder making the people falsely believe it's everyone else who is "crazy". They may dominate a chat room and make numerous complaints over the years about numerous things and people and rather than being made to know that they are the root of all these problems and the cause they mistakenly feel like the chat room hero and the problem worsens.

It is very rare for this type of person without actually getting medical help to be able to overcome this. Over time it gets worse and worse and harder and harder to cure, the patent will without proper help almost never be able to reenter a world of human interaction with ease. This is because people face to face don't have moderators and you can't ban john from the local coffee shop because he used a racial slur in the grocery store, and people face to face don't tolerate sarcasm or or other rude behaviors that they are in the habit of doing, just because it falls within the chat room rules.

The real problem is that the reason people spend each and evey day in a chat room is because they were already a failure outside of it so going back when your habits, behaviors and expectations are now worsened is very hard. ..... Saying all that I think keeping people like that or at least giving them, an opportunity to have these "places to go" is better for everyone outside of the chat rooms so as to not have to deal with them. And since they will probably never be all that happy anyplace else I am glad they have somewhere to go.

The bottom line is the normal or non addicted person only comes and goes and can take it or leave it so it's no big thing to them ........Sso lets not belittle the disabled person who has very few other options barring medical help

[mrtoad]

Like I said I am an expert in the results of this issue not the treatment of this or any other addictions .......... I am not suggesting any form of treatment or offering any diagnosis either . ..... my expertise and studies are in the results of the problem not the cure

Their is tons of research available you could just google it and spend a month reading about it ......... what did I not answer ?

well, for some reason I can't seem to find a lot of the stuff that you are going on about - but then maybe I have been hanging around in the wrong paces for the last few years. I have asked you to put a reference up, why are you so reluctant?

[MrRichard2009]

maybe its the beta blocker thing ..... beta blockers are mostly used for the heart .... they reduce stress hormones and are used by some for addiction Dopamine blockers are also used as dopamine is what feel good drugs and behaviors produce ...... it's quite common to be used but I personally thing treating addictions with drugs is silly

[tombkk]

An interesting and well constructed post, MrRichard.

Is there a name for the specific therapy such addicts would be advised to undertake, and is any particular form of medication prescribed ?

It's called Internet Addiction ..... you can find many centers and websites for help ......... the therapy is pretty similar to other addictions and I would not advise drugs to solve addiction like using methadone for example, but yes some doctors would advise that mostly in the from of beta blockers the theory being that while the internet addiction stimulus is removed the beta blockers fool the brain into not noticing.

But once again internet addiction is most often simply a result of another condition like Anti Social Personality Disorder ........... A Doctor would try and find out WHY they had an internet addiction and treat the root cause

I'm intrigued, what medication or therapy would you suggest? Also curious as to the use of Beta Blockers in Addiction? Please put up some quantified research on that. Thanks.

P.S. I have over 7,000 posts, does that mean I have a Personality Disorder?

You seem a little argumentative ........ the reason they would be used by people other than me is because it reduces stress hormones, I am not going to find research for you sorry.

Dopamine blockers would be used by some as well for the same basic reason of fooling the brain ... not to reduce the stress hormone ..... I am not condoning any drug use to solve addiction just saying what others sometimes do

You don't seem like you have a disorder to me but I am not a Doctor ...... most people would say that if you think you might have a problem it's best to find out for sure

My suggested therapy would be the same for all addicts .......... just stop doing it, and if you can't go to an addiction treatment specialist

My focus has always been on the results of this issue not the treatment of it so I am not really interested in or qualified to advise what treatment is better than another .......... their are plenty to chose from for sure

Just coming a bit late to this thread. An "internet addiction" is an interesting hypothesis, and I am looking forward to learning more about it. ersonally, I spend a few hours per day on the internet privately, am on the internet most of the time I am in the office, and still have a social life. I am curious as to what criteria you apply for an addiction.

[MrRichard2009]

Like I said I am an expert in the results of this issue not the treatment of this or any other addictions .......... I am not suggesting any form of treatment or offering any diagnosis either . ..... my expertise and studies are in the results of the problem not the cure

Their is tons of research available you could just google it and spend a month reading about it ......... what did I not answer ?

well, for some reason I can't seem to find a lot of the stuff that you are going on about - but then maybe I have been hanging around in the wrong paces for the last few years. I have asked you to put a reference up, why are you so reluctant?

Because anyone can do a search and find a million hits ? a reference for what Internet Addiction ? Beta Blockers ? .... come on dude who are you trying to kid your search engine is so bad it can't find anything ? Who do you think believes that ?

[mrtoad]

maybe its the beta blocker thing ..... beta blockers are mostly used for the heart .... they reduce stress hormones and are used by some for addiction Dopamine blockers are also used as dopamine is what feel good drugs and behaviors produce ...... it's quite common to be used but I personally thing treating addictions with drugs is silly

Hmm yeah, possibly - you seem to be starting to move a little on this, although initially you never mentioned Dopamine Blockers.

My question is "who are the some that use Beta Blockers?" and where is the research? I am more than aware of the other medications that are used in treatment of addictions.

My second question, which you have failed to answer - is what therapy in your expert opinion do you suggest?