Can You Get Thai Friends?

[Krit]

Is it easy to get gay Thai friends in LOS? Do you have many?

A good user as I am, I tried to browse for old topics on the subject before posting, and actually found an interesting topic called "Your Thai Guy's Friends ...", but that was about your bf's friends...

I know some of you have a Thai boyfriend and perhaps you then know some of his friends too. What I'm wondering today is whether it's easy to cut the middleman and get some Thai friends without having the boyfriend?

I mean, after spending so much time with you, it's only natural that you boyfriend needs to see his fellow countrymen too, and I guess sometimes you would just have to be tolerated there. But what happens when they have free will?

When they go out or play cards, do the precious little Thais prefer to spend time in their own groups and speak Thai? Or do they like to have the odd farang there from time to time, so that they can practise their English?

What if the poor farang cannot even speak English too well (like myself), do they like to have him around anyway, just to have some laughs at his expense? Or maybe have some beer at his expense? The possibilities of having sanuk with farang must be endless really, but that's just my opinion. That's why I'm asking you.

Do the decent Thai guys even have time for friends? I understand they often study home or something boring like that? The age group I'm talking about here is something like 19-26-year-olds, as that's how old my friends are back here.

One more thing, I think Thais are quite jealous. So if you meet someone nice and he likes you, does he want to keep you for himself instead of "sharing" with friends? Of course this is what concerns me most...

[ChrisP]

Ohhh, Thai Guys have LOTS of time for friends... especially in 10-hour card games. They are a VERY social race.. and love Sanuk (fun)

I have met most of my guys friends, who hardly speak a word of English.. and don't seem to want to improve either. (Thai's are inherently (and self-admittedly)lazy, unless there's something in it for them....)

I feel I am "tolerated" at communal events like Birthday parties. I have a couple other Thai friends, in their 20's and honestly just friends, who like my company and who like to speak English with me, but my guy doesn't know... he wouldn't understand and (like 99% of Thais) would be INSANELY jealous.. unless they were old and wrinkled..!

ChrisP

Edited July 26, 2005 by ChrisP

[ProThaiExpat]

I relate totally. After three years, my exposure to my Thai's friends have been cordial but infrequent. My lack of Thai and the lack of aircon in their "watering holes" makes socializing difficult, and I am not much of a social animal as well.

However, a current saga is transpiring which offers continued reporting on this thread.

My Thai has a tennis friend who is in his 40's and overseas educated. A college professor, I was handed the telephone to talk to him last week. He conversed extremely well, accentless dialogue and extremely articulate. A great prospect for a Thai friend for me.

I proposed to my Thai that we have lunch together with his Ajarn and all was rosy. On second prompting, the arrangements were made for lunch this Saturday. Yesterday, Ajarn called to cancel. He had a meeting. We will do it again soon!!! Time will only tell if this happens.

Ajarn is quite "nelly" and gigled a lot on the phone when I complimented him. Not a negative for me, as he was demonstrating the "katoy" style so often seen when a Thai gay man encounters a "man". I am sure in his work enviroment, he doesn't act so.

However, my Thai reports that after the telephone call, Ajarn spoke to my Thai as to whether he was nervous about Ajarn meeting me as he might "turn my head". My Thai, always quick on the uptake, said "Not a problem, he likes them trim, muscular and handsome like me, not fat and old like you". All done in a joking manner, of course, and evidently they are good enough friends that it wasn't taken seriously, however, it seems the "jealousy" issue came up long before me even met.

Ajarn is a c-9 so quite high on the local respect scale and he does tend to "lord it over" fellow Thais, according to my Thai. I have been there and done that so am equal to or "better" than Ajarn on the social scale, so it will be interesting to see if I can develop a Thai friend or not, as we have a lot in common and there will be the added element fo "flirtation" to make it interesting as a subtext.

Will report further if something develops and the lunch comes off. I will not mention it again, as Ajarn broke the date, so it is on his back to re-schedule if he really wants to meet.

After a month, I will mention it again to my Thai, in case Ajarn is playing coy!!

[Steve2UK]

My perception is that 99% of Thai's will get jealous in 99% of cases where the Thai's are gay and a farang is involved...... and maybe when it's an all-Thai situation, too.

I'm fortunate to have a very good Thai friend (he's 24 and rather obviously gay). I've helped him through a difficult patch after he had a messy break-up with an older farang and he has helped me enormously with my understanding of the whole Thai/farang relationship thing and also with some practical matters relating to my upcoming move to Chiang Mai. Neither of us is remotely interested in the other from a sexual angle - we are genuinely "good friends".

When I was involved with another guy in Chiang Mai, my "partner" was constantly making references to my "friend". No amount of my saying that it was 100% innocent could budge his belief that we were playing on the side. The same thing happened in a different way later: I stopped off with my friend to chat to a European lady friend and her Thai husband at their cafe. A couple of days later, I saw them again (on my own this time) and they obviously had something on their mind; it turned out that they had seen my friend walking the night before with another farang - and didn't know whether to tell me or not. I had to explain that there was nothing between us and that I was delighted if he'd found somebody new.

My deduction from the above (and other examples) is that there is nearly always an assumption that a (gay) farang with a (gay) Thai means they're an "item" (a couple). On that basis, I'd say that it's at best an uphill (as in climbing Everest) task for a gay farang to make "ordinary" Thai friends in a gay circle. Even if the farang's partner doesn't get suspicious/antagonistic about it, the potential friends will almost certainly be expecting it from him - particularly if he's not around to check for himself.

Taking this one stage further (and given that there seems to be such a widespread desire among gay Thais to get a farang boyfriend), I wonder if there wouldn't often be a negative reaction from the potential Thai friend - as in "Why don't you want to be my boyfriend? What's wrong with me?".

Fascinating place, Thailand.........

Edit:

Krit - nothing to do with the above but it seems to me that you write better English than some Brits/Americans that I can think of; what makes you say that your spoken English isn't good?

Edited July 27, 2005 by Steve2UK

[Krit]

Thanks for your enlightening comments everyone

I wonder if there wouldn't often be a negative reaction from the potential Thai friend - as in "Why don't you want to be my boyfriend? What's wrong with me?".

Oh yes... I think I've actually had some Thai boyfriends already. They just didn't remember to tell ME that we have such a relationship... With one Thai, I insisted in being introduced properly as a friend instead of a boyfriend, so I ended up being his "ex-boyfriend", who is now just a good friend. Fair enough?

If I were to actually date Thai guys, on a second date I should probably expect to get a wish list for our shared home?

Krit - nothing to do with the above but it seems to me that you write better English than some Brits/Americans that I can think of; what makes you say that your spoken English isn't good?

Thank you... :D Yes, my English is far better than my German or Swedish... But my pronunciation isn't too good. Lack of practise, I think I now have a lifetime total of 4 days spent in an English-speaking country. Maybe some Ajarn in Bangkok would like to help me..?

Edited July 27, 2005 by Krit

[ChrisP]

PTP.....

Tell us more about the Social Scale thing....

what is a c-9...?

ChrisP

[Delphy]

Ohhh, Thai Guys have LOTS of time for friends... especially in 10-hour card games. They are a VERY social race.. and love Sanuk (fun)

I have met most of my guys friends, who hardly speak a word of English.. and don't seem to want to improve either.  (Thai's are inherently (and self-admittedly)lazy, unless there's something in it for them....) 

I feel I am "tolerated" at communal events like Birthday parties.  I have a couple other Thai friends, in their 20's and honestly just friends, who like my company and who like to speak English with me, but my guy doesn't know... he wouldn't understand and (like 99% of Thais) would be INSANELY jealous.. unless they were old and wrinkled..!

ChrisP

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Hi ChrisP,

First, I have to tell you that I am Thai. After I had read your quote, I felt you guys really misunderstood about us... Well I will not talk about those points, coz it might be true according to your experiences.

But have you ever asked yourself that why you meet those lazy guys? Is the reason that you like that type.. uneducated, lazy, BUT YOUNG.

Why do not farang look for educated Thai to be friends? This is a big mystery for me. Farangs do not like good Thai guys or Farangs do not know where can meet them.

For example.. in my case, I graduated engineering from Chulalongkorn university, master degree in the Netherlands. I can speak English and German. My look is not bad..Chinese-Thai and with defined figure. I will not be a money boy, coz I am not poor. But you know? I have tried very hard to find good farang for a long term relationship by posted my profile in some websites.. It is very ridiculous.. Only few of Farangs interested me! What's wrong? Can you tell me? I cannot understand at all .

your answer may clear the doubts from my mind.

Delphy

[RonanTheBarbarian]

Delphy, i am a little confused.

Are you seeking a farang boyfriend, or are you seeking a farang platonic friend?

Because the original post is about was about the latter topic ( platonic friendships between gay farangs and gay thais) but you seem to be talking about the former.

Edited July 27, 2005 by RonanTheBarbarian

[ProThaiExpat]

Delphy: Some realities for you.

1. Falang who leave their native country, single, and come to Thailand are looking for younger men that they cannot get in their home country due to a strong age bias. A preference for Asian mentality is also part of it.

2. Thai gays are so falang oriented, that a falang in Thailand can attract a young, handsome Thai boy due to this bias for falang and falangs economic advantage, things not "going" for him in his home country.

3. If the falangs wanted what you have to offer for a LTR, they can easily find it in their home countries. As you said, a falangs money is not of interest to you. so the things you offer a falang, education and self sufficiency, would be not so desireable to the limited number of falang who come to Thailand for the youuth and beauty and economy.

I would suggest that any Thai in your shoes that desires a falang for a LTR over that of a Thai, should do as falangs in Thailand have done by coming to Thailand, you should travel to a falang country to live and find your LTR where your being from Thailand is an added bonus to your other attractive qualities and the pool of available falangs is so much greater.

These are generalities, of course, and fraught with differences as to individuals, however, I have tried to explain, in some part, what you have asked for.

I might add that "farm boys" with good hearts are often more attractive to many falang than "city slickers with high educations and accompanying attitudes" In matters of the heart, I think education is low on the priority list for many falang in Thailand.

I recall my Thai lifemate lied about his age when we met as he felt, as many Thai gays do that your "over the hill" at 30 if you want to attract falang. I was delighted when he aged 9 years in the first two weeks we were together. He has the body and face of someone ten years younger but with the experience and fidelity usually found only in an older person, so I feel I am very lucky to have found this in one person.

[ProThaiExpat]

ChrisP: I really don't know much about civl service ranks or perphaps the same ranks held when a professor is a government employee in a government university.

I have also seen an "Ajarn" 2 level referrd to.

Perhaps IJWT, Ajarn or other members reading this thread can brief us on the civil service ranking system, how it applies to college professors at government univeersities and if their is a separate rating for teaachers as opposed to civil servants?

[The_Eye_Of_Sauron]

"nelly" what does nelly mean please?

[Ijustwannateach]

"nelly" = fem or queeny

Delphy... I don't know what you look like... but as a personal answer for me- it's the "Thai-Chinese" part that would put me off. It's a generalization, sure, but let's just say that social skills in that ethnic group are often lacking. Your message seems fine, and maybe you don't have any problem like that- but you may be suffering from being associated with the main group.

"Steven"

[AsiaWolfie]

ProThaiExPat, well done, that was a very open and clear definition of the FARANG - ASIAN relationship mystery..... that counts for countries like malaysia, Indonesia, Phils, Vietnam as well...... when I sometimes discuss this topic with some of my fellow citizens in germany, many of them get angry, cause I am destroying their wonderful & naive illusions.....

[Delphy]

RonanTheBarbarian

I am seeking both kinds of relationship, boyfriend and platonic friend. I like farangs, coz I think farangs are easier to be friend with than Thai... just in my case.

ProThaiExpat

Thank you for your clear answer. Now I see what I am doing wrong. Actually I used to stay (study) abroad twice for three years, but at that time I had never tried to look for Farang as a boyfriend.. coz I thought that I could live alone without anybody. Anyway, I change my attitude when I am here in BKK. Perhaps It is too late. I think that I have to go abroad again for my PhD

Ijustwannateach

I am not sure that I completely understand your point in my "Thai-Chineses" or not. But I just wanted you guys have a clear idea about how I look. There are three kinds of look about Thai people.. chinese, Thai-chinese and Thai. Those are irrelevent to ethnic, classes or whatever. I just wanted to know why most of farangs like Thai or farm-boy look, why not chinese or Thai-chinese.

If Ajarn is c-9, his age must be over 45 yo (at least). As far as I know a position for civil servant starts from c-2 and ends at c-10. C-10 can be a head of ministry.

[Steve2UK]

Delphy:  Some realities for you.

1.  Falang who leave their native country, single, and come to Thailand are looking for younger men that they cannot get in their home country due to a strong age bias. A preference for Asian mentality is also part of it.

2.  Thai gays are so falang oriented, that a falang in Thailand can attract a young, handsome Thai boy due to this bias for falang and falangs economic advantage, things not "going" for him in his home country.

3.  If the falangs wanted what you have to offer for a LTR, they can easily find it in their home countries.  As you said, a falangs money is not of interest to you. so the things you offer a falang, education and self sufficiency, would be not so desireable to the limited number of falang who come to Thailand for the youuth and beauty and economy.

I would suggest that any Thai in your shoes that desires a falang for a LTR over that of a Thai, should do as  falangs in Thailand have done by coming to Thailand, you should travel to a falang country to live and find your LTR where your being from Thailand is an added bonus to  your other attractive qualities and the pool of available falangs is so much greater.

These are generalities, of course, and fraught with differences as to individuals, however, I have tried to explain, in some part, what you have asked for.

I might add that "farm boys" with good hearts are often more attractive to many falang than "city slickers with high educations and accompanying attitudes"  In matters of the heart, I think education is low on the priority list for many falang in Thailand. 

I recall my Thai lifemate lied about his age when we met as he felt, as many Thai gays do that your "over the hill" at 30 if you want to attract falang.  I was delighted when he aged 9 years in the first two weeks we were together.  He has the body and face of someone ten years younger but with the experience and fidelity usually found only in an older person, so I feel I am very lucky to have found this in one person.

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PTE, I agree with a lot of what you say - particularly if one takes it as broad generalisations applicable for many but not all farang and Thai (as you say). That said, I think point 3 and the paragraph following are really a little too sweeping in answer to Delphy.

My instinct (OK - hope) is that I'm not the only farang who likes the idea of a Thai partner who is more self-sufficient and educated than the stereotype "farm boys" (i.e. with limited education and experience in life) are likely to be. I also agree with what I take to be your implied point about "city slickers with high educations and accompanying attitudes" - i.e. that they may well come with "baggage" that is not welcomed by most farang who have had more than enough of that in their home country. But, I don't think that a high education automatically brings the rest with it - even allowing that a highly educated Thai almost inevitably comes from a relatively wealthy family background to have paid for all that education.

[Guest endure]

I am not sure that I completely understand your point in my "Thai-Chineses" or not. But I just wanted you guys have a clear idea about how I look. There are three kinds of look about Thai people.. chinese, Thai-chinese and Thai. Those are irrelevent to ethnic, classes or whatever. I just wanted to know why most of farangs like Thai or farm-boy look, why not chinese or Thai-chinese.

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Partly because opposites attract. Being pale, many falangs prefer people with darker skin as boyfriends

[Delphy]

Steve2UK

Thanks for your idea that help me still have a little hope. But, I would like to tell you sometimes "highly educated Thai" does not always mean they get financial support from their wealthy family.. In my case, I studied abroad , coz I got fellowship from Farang governments, Germany and The Netherlands.

Well. I think that you guys have wrong concept of Thai people a lot. We are the same as you are. It depends on people that you have dealt with. Have you ever talked with someone who have high education, good family background? Please do it, you will find no difference between Farang and Thai.

Delphy

[Guest endure]

I regularly meet Thai graduate students here in the UK. I live near a major university that has many Asian students and my (Thai) friend owns a restaurant where many of them work/eat. We also take them down to the nearest temple regularly. They're just the same as anybody else. They come from all sorts of backgrounds with many of them on Thai goverment grants to fund them. Some are really nice, some are just ok and one or two are the biggest snobs you could wish to meet.

[Bull]

Steve2UK

Thanks for your idea that help me still have a little hope.   But, I would like to tell you sometimes "highly educated Thai" does not always mean they get financial support from their wealthy family.. In my case, I studied abroad , coz I got fellowship from Farang governments, Germany and The Netherlands.

Well. I think that you guys have wrong concept of Thai people a lot. We are the same as you are. It depends on people that you have dealt with. Have you ever talked with someone who have high education, good family background? Please do it, you will find no difference between Farang and Thai.

Delphy

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I agree what your point of view, Delphy. My circle of thai acquaintances/friends is diverse in terms of "ethnicity", family background or geographical procedence. Mind you, and as it would be the case back home...most of them have university education and an outlook on life, expectations and behaviour that is similar to mine. Otherwise I would find it really hard to live here.

Of course there are certain differences due to the fact that they were born and raised in Thailand, but I have also experienced those while living in other western countries. I think differences are bigger due to background and education levels than they are to being thai or farang.

Regarding the matter of acceptance, i am usually accepted by my friends´ pals, their relatives or their families, sometimes whith a bigger element of curiosity than others, of course

And just as a matter of personal preference...I find light skinned guys more attractive, whatever the race...

&lt;deleted&gt; or great guys come in all colours and sizes...

Bull

[Steve2UK]

Steve2UK

Thanks for your idea that help me still have a little hope.   But, I would like to tell you sometimes "highly educated Thai" does not always mean they get financial support from their wealthy family.. In my case, I studied abroad , coz I got fellowship from Farang governments, Germany and The Netherlands.

Well. I think that you guys have wrong concept of Thai people a lot. We are the same as you are. It depends on people that you have dealt with. Have you ever talked with someone who have high education, good family background? Please do it, you will find no difference between Farang and Thai.

Delphy

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Delphy, I appreciate the correction. While I said "almost inevitably" and "relatively wealthy", you're right that I was assuming too much. I think many of us have a tendency to view too much in a black and white way rather than in a range of shades of grey.

The longer I spend in Thailand and as I meet more diverse people, the more it reinforces my notion that there is a great range - just as in any country. I do still think that there are (generally) some key cultural differences between many Thai and many farang - but the degree and type of those differences vary according to the individuals you compare.

[ProThaiExpat]

While we may all be "brother's under the skin" there are cultural differences which play a part in preferences when it comes to partners among men.

When I was conducting long conversations on the internet with Thais before coming here, it was not long before I was able to discern the difference in "attitude" between ethnic Thais and ethnic Thai-Chinese.

As one explained to me, Thais are brown skinned and work on farms and Thai-Chinese live in cities and make money.

Yes, I know it is a generality. But there is a grain of truth in it. My experience with over two hundred such conversations on the internet indicated to me that there was a lot of truth to the proposition on a cultural basis. Thus Thai-Chinese families emphasize education and financial success, perhaps more than the traditional Thai farm family.

I was able to discern, after a time, when I was talking to a Thai-Chi or a 100% Thai without asking.

Thus I developed a preference from these conversations as to the pool of Thais I would look in for a partner. Delphy may very well not be in this "generalization" of Thai-Chi" I have formulated, or not, but since it is only a personal preference, it only has validity for me.

Thai-Chi definitely have lighter skin than do most pure Thais (yes I know that is probably ethnically impossible) and so Delphy would have that going for him up front, as Steve2uk points out. His brain power is a plus, providing he doesn't "put it on". Certainly, his self sufficiency makes him attractive to most falang.

My point being, my attempt was to explain why falang prefer Thais over Thai-Chi only applies to those who do and certainly not all falang nor to all Thai-Chi.

Delphy, clearly, go where the pool of candidates you prefer is greatest, if it is falang, go to a falang country as offering the best choice. If you remain in BKK, get out there as much as possible. It is extremely tiring to search for the "one" but unless you circulate or advertise or otherwise get yourself out there, in a country where falang are so few, your efforts will be fruitless. Good Luck.

[ChrisP]

Why do not farang look for educated Thai to be friends? This is a big mystery for me. Farangs do not like good Thai guys or Farangs do not know where can meet them.

For example.. in my case, I graduated engineering from Chulalongkorn university, master degree in the Netherlands. I can speak English and German. My look is not bad..Chinese-Thai and with defined figure. I will not be a money boy, coz I am not poor. But you know? I have tried very hard to find good farang for a long term relationship by posted my profile in some websites.. It is very ridiculous.. Only few of Farangs interested me! What's wrong? Can you tell me? I cannot understand at all  .

your answer may clear the doubts from my mind.

Delphy

Delphy... many great replies on here already... I agree with PTExpat's particularly. I am also attracted to younger asians.. 20s - 30's But, I will add that I would LOVE to meet highly educated Thai's to be bf material.... but WHERE to find them hanging out in BKK...?

Really, it's not a choice to date uneducated Thai's... it's just a question of where to look for newer/better dating material.. (not online).

ChrisP

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[Delphy]

endure

I can understand why farangs do not like "being pale" skin type. Well can I say like this.. If farangs perfer farm boys to city slicker, farangs should accept some conditions according to this favourite; for example, be a teller machine for your farm boys or learn Thai to speak with them.

Bull

This story of mine may support your idea. When I studied abroad, one of my friends was Brits. He used to work in Thailand about a couple of months. Moreover, he got a girlfriend who came from Ubon Ratchathani. So there should be no doubt that he had some idea about Thailand and the people, but almost what he knew about Thai were still wrong. Then, in the first two months he thought about me like many Farangs in Thailand do. It seemed impossible for us to become friend. However, due to same education level and family background we have many things in common, our way of thinking, taste, behaviour..etc. Finally we are not only a friend but a closed one.

And... regarding your personal preference, I want to say that I am very glad when I read it.

Steve2UK

Thanks for your open-minded; I feel that you are similar with my friend. That makes me really love the British.

ProThaiExpat

I will consider your suggestion. Anyway, I think that there must be some Farangs look for someone like me. Though you said my effort might be futile or extremely tiring, I still have a hope .. of that exception

Delphy

[Guest endure]

endure

I can understand why farangs do not like "being pale" skin type.   Well can I say like this.. If farangs perfer farm boys to city slicker, farangs should accept some conditions according to this favourite; for example, be a teller machine for your farm boys or learn Thai to speak with them. 

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Delphy

Why do you want to meet a farang boyfriend? Isn't part of the attraction our pale skin? Well it's the same for many of us. We want to meet someone who's not like us.

I think your remarks about 'farm boys' and money are very unfair. Just because someone is born on a farm doesn't mean they're stupid or dishonest. What it does mean is that they haven't had the same opportunities as someone with wealthier parents. If you'd been born in Isaan and had only had 6 years schooling you'd be a farm boy too. Would you be stupid and dishonest? I know one or two farmboys around Chiang Mai who've been given an opportunity by their farang boyfriends and who now have thriving businesses. They still have their farang boyfriends too!

[Delphy]

ChrisP.. I want to tell you that I am just a beginner about Gay things in Thailand.. Perhaps you know it better than me ( I just come back to Thailand in May.) And none of my friends (engineer) is gay. That's why I am very lost and why I have tried to look for someone online. So I do not know how to help you to find highly educated Thai. It is not easy, coz they will not show that they are gay. Unlike uneducated Thai, they can do whatever they want to do..

Would you mind if I ask you a question, which is not much different question from yours? Where to find you guys? That may be only a question, coz I know that I will never dare to go..

Delphy

[Delphy]

endure

My remarks about 'farm boys', I got them from reading what you guys posted in this website. I want to tell you that I was born in ESarn.. Ubon Ratchathani. When I was young, my family was not rich. My parent sent me to Bangkok when I was only 13 yo and I had to stay alone since then. I studied hard , so finally I could study at the best high school and the best unversity in Thailand. So what do you think?

Not everybody has already had everything from the beginning. I am very appreciated that you do not look down Esarn people. Of course, I will never do it as well. And I did not say that 'farm boys' are stupid or dishonest.. I just mentioned that they will just depend on your financial support and they will not try to speak in English with you as someone posted.

[Guest endure]

Delphy

I think you should be very proud of yourself to have been so succesful. I also think that you should 'dare to go' and look for someone who will make you happy.

[Ijustwannateach]

As I said in a previous message, Delphy, it's the "Thai-Chinese" thing that would put me off if I were reading profiles on a gay dating site. From knowing more about you now, it doesn't seem that you fit the typical profile of a Bangkokian Thai-Chinese of middle class background (which is what I think of when someone says they are Thai Chinese). Maybe you should take the Thai-Chinese label off your profile and just say you are from Isaan, but that you have a good job as an engineer? That would be more than attractive enough for many folks.

Though I have dated one or two dark-skinned guys, my longest relationships in Thailand have been with light-skinned guys (mainly by chance and personality).

"Steven"

[Delphy]

endure

Thank you

Ijustwannateach

Thanks for your suggestion, but I am proud of my Thai+Chinese blood. So I do not think I will take it off. If someone will love me, he must love me at what I am. It's a better idea that I give all useful information to let him make his right decision.

Delphy

[ChrisP]

Would you mind if I ask you a question, which is not much different question from yours? Where to find you guys? That may be only a question, coz I know that I will never dare to go.. 

Delphy

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I like to hang out in Patpong area.. Dicks Cafe or Starbucks... (not because I am looking for a bar-boy, but because it's the gay area, and I also like the energy there..) I also like to go to coffee shops and bookstores in the big malls. I prefer the gay areas of BKK just because the chance of meeting a gay guy is substantially higher, and I feel more comfortable than going to a straight bar or area.. (like Sukhumvit Soi Nana or Soi Cowboy)

Many other gay falang have success meeting gay Thai's in other areas of BKK... I think.

ChrisP

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