Thaksin To Return To Thailand If Pheu Thai Wins

[Farang0tang]

Thaksin states: "The Chilean leader acted and saved his people's lives without any political intent,"

I agree the Chilean leader, Mr Sebastian Pinera did a fantastic job with the mine rescue.

And because of its success he has shot up in the popularity ratings. Intended or not.

[rubl]

Thaksin states: "The Chilean leader acted and saved his people's lives without any political intent,"

I agree the Chilean leader, Mr Sebastian Pinera did a fantastic job with the mine rescue.

And because of its success he has shot up in the popularity ratings. Intended or not.

When k. Thaksin went to Khon Kaen to donate THB 1000 of his own money to a dear old lady which was broadcasted life, he obviously did that out of the kindness in his heart, surely not for any publicity reason. Heaven forbid

Edited October 15, 2010 by rubl

[EyesWideOpen]

Thaksin is the the worst thing that ever happened to Thailand. If he makes a triumphant return to Thailand, I am outa here.....

[rayw]

This is such nonsense:

"If Pheu Thai forms a government, legislation to grant amnesty to people banned from politics will be urgently tabled and reconciliatory bids will be streamlined".

Thaksin has been convicted of a criminal offense and is a felon on the run, not simply a banned politician who can be granted amnesty.

Yes indeed convicted criminals are and should be banned from politics as they have lost their right to represent the people surely, or at least until they have served their sentence and considered to have changed their dishonest ways. Not sure Thaksin could ever change his evil ways or many others like him both from the Red and Yellow factions. This country needs to rid Thai politics of all these crooked despots, until that is completely and effectively carried out there is little hope for stability here in the future. There are many very honest and reputable Thai citizens capable of representing the people in elections so why does Thailand tolerate the corrupt con artists that seem to somehow get into the corridors of power. Sure I am an idealist but without ideals we have no hope for a better future.

Edited October 15, 2010 by rayw

[gbswales]

Yes I am sure "Thaksin freaking LOVES Thaksin" as someone has said. However the danger is that a lot of people outside of Bangkok love him too - the result of capitalism (ironcally of which Thaksin is a part) which sees wealthy influential and well educated Thais as more important than the poorer and sometimes less educated people. It is successive governments (including Thaksins) which have courted these so called elite in major cities and allowed even middle class Thais to accumulate wealth and enjoy a lifestyle that is little more than a dream to millions of ordinary Thai people

The other factor is that his style appeals to many people - I am sure Abhisit is a good man and in many ways a good prime minister but he does not come across as a dynamic strong leader which is what ordinary people probably like. Love or hate Tony Blair but he had that charisma and I think would won our last election if he had not handed power to gordon Brown. At this level TV personality is the most important factor in politics

Edited October 15, 2010 by gbswales

[dekbahnnok]

A VOTE FOR THE PTP IS A VOTE FOR THAKSIN

Campaign posters are being printed as we speak.

featuring Thaksin's triumphant return in a body bag...

[swerver]

What is it with Thaksin and the word democracy?

Does the guy even understand the meaning?

Sorry Thaksin you’re missing the nail head by a mile with your rubbish Chile statement

Lets take an objective look at Chile:

Chile’s ghosts are not being rescued

The media swarmed as 33 copper miners were winched to safety from their underground prison in Copiapó. But the cameras were blind to the plundering, abuse of indigenous people and history of disappearances that have poisoned the country.

Demonstrators stage a protest in the fountain of La Moneda presidential palace in Santiago on September 16, 2010 in support of the 35 Mapuche indigenous activists on hunger strike in different prisons along the country.

October 14, 2010

The rescue of 33 miners in Chile is an extraordinary drama filled with pathos and heroism. It is also a media windfall for the Chilean government, whose every beneficence is recorded by a forest of cameras. One cannot fail to be impressed. However, like all great media events, it is a façade.

The accident that trapped the miners is not unusual in Chile, but the inevitable consequence of a ruthless economic system that has barely changed since the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet. Copper is Chile’s gold, and the frequency of mining disasters keeps pace with prices and profits. There are, on average, 39 fatal accidents every year in Chile’s privatized mines. The San José mine, where the men work, became so unsafe in 2007 that it had to be closed - but not for long. On July 30, 2010, a labor department report warned again of “serious safety deficiencies”, but no action was taken. Six days later, the men were entombed.

For all the media circus at the rescue site, contemporary Chile is a country of the unspoken. At Villa Grimaldi, in the suburbs of the capital, Santiago, a sign says:

• “The forgotten past is full of memory.”

This was the torture center where hundreds of people were murdered and disappeared for opposing the fascism that Pinochet and his business allies brought to Chile. Its ghostly presence is overseen by the beautiful Andes, and the man who unlocks the gate used to live nearby and remembers the screams.

[Rama]

Unfortunately for Mr. Thaksin the sands of time stand still for no one. All his class 10 classmates are retired and the brass shuffle over 5 years has gotten rid of all his supporters. The military found out they can shoot red insurrectionists without a backlash. He's made a lot of bad blood with a lot of rich people in bkk who lost a lot of money because of his antics. I think they'd welcome him back; easier to hit a target when it's not moving. All this talk about Thaksin 4+ years after Thailand excreted him out is all exactly that. People in Panama were worried and nervous about Noreiga coming back for many years after he was disposed of even when he was sitting in a prison in the US. Same with Marcos in the Philippines. It's like having a bad taste in your mouth that doesn't go away. Thaksin won't go away, he'll just slowly fade away until he's either dead or too old and feeble.

[animatic]

Unfortunately for Mr. Thaksin the sands of time stand still for no one. All his class 10 classmates are retired and the brass shuffle over 5 years has gotten rid of all his supporters. The military found out they can shoot red insurrectionists without a backlash. He's made a lot of bad blood with a lot of rich people in bkk who lost a lot of money because of his antics. I think they'd welcome him back; easier to hit a target when it's not moving. All this talk about Thaksin 4+ years after Thailand excreted him out is all exactly that. People in Panama were worried and nervous about Noreiga coming back for many years after he was disposed of even when he was sitting in a prison in the US. Same with Marcos in the Philippines. It's like having a bad taste in your mouth that doesn't go away. Thaksin won't go away, he'll just slowly fade away until he's either dead or too old and feeble.

NO doubt,

but he still has too much cash to throw around assuaging his bruised ego.

He may not realize he is dead,, and that could mean he won't succeed,

but causes pant loads of <deleted> before he understands this.

[rubl]

Unfortunately for Mr. Thaksin the sands of time stand still for no one. All his class 10 classmates are retired and the brass shuffle over 5 years has gotten rid of all his supporters. The military found out they can shoot red insurrectionists without a backlash. He's made a lot of bad blood with a lot of rich people in bkk who lost a lot of money because of his antics. I think they'd welcome him back; easier to hit a target when it's not moving. All this talk about Thaksin 4+ years after Thailand excreted him out is all exactly that. People in Panama were worried and nervous about Noreiga coming back for many years after he was disposed of even when he was sitting in a prison in the US. Same with Marcos in the Philippines. It's like having a bad taste in your mouth that doesn't go away. Thaksin won't go away, he'll just slowly fade away until he's either dead or too old and feeble.

I object against "The military found out they can shoot red insurrectionists without a backlash." This corrupts the fact that the army was ordered by the government to disperse the protesters on April 10th and got shot at and had a colonel with staff grenaded into oblivion. Their cleanup succeeded on the 19th of May against 'peaceful protesters, not terrorists'. No one ever said anything about 'red insurrectionists'.

[bristolgeoff]

he is only hoping that the out come of a election would result in this

[hanuman1]

hanuman1 (I had 5 quotes, was allowed only 4 - it was like Sophie's Choice...)

What are you hoping to discover? That people who are horrified at terrorism are just pretending to be appalled?

Yeah, there's promise in that line of investigation. Please pursue it all the way to the end. You'll need to be persistent. Some will be quite adamant that they actually dislike terrorism. But you'll wear them down and they'll admit the truth in the end. Go get 'em tiger.

?

Do let me know what planet you live on, maybe I'll be able to interpret your ramblings more easily.

I don't endorse terrorism. Four words. Too difficult for you? Let me know which words you have trouble with. And how about this - I don't like Taksin either. Sorry. :jap:

And since you're clearly someone with enough time on their hands to go 'Century Gothic' on us and dig up everyone's quotes to take pot shots at, how about finding one where I do try to garner sympathy for terrorism.

It'll only take half an hour before you give up and decide on a new font. You've got years left, right?

Edited October 15, 2010 by hanuman1

[TheyCallmeScooter]

We often get demands from some posters that current 'Red Leaders' should denounce violent actions.

My question is: Would it really make the blindest bit of difference to you if they did?

And if not, why bother asking them to do it?

What are you hoping to discover? That people who are horrified at terrorism are just pretending to be appalled?

I don't endorse terrorism. Four words. Too difficult for you? Let me know which words you have trouble with. And how about this - I don't like Taksin either.

It's not the words I struggle with. If I don't understand a word, I could look it up.

If I don't understand the person saying the word, I usually ask them to explain what they mean.

I should really stop doing this because, as you can see, they didn't know what they meant in the first place.

Yes I am sure "Thaksin freaking LOVES Thaksin" as someone has said. However the danger is that a lot of people outside of Bangkok love him too - the result of capitalism (ironcally of which Thaksin is a part) which sees wealthy influential and well educated Thais as more important than the poorer and sometimes less educated people. It is successive governments (including Thaksins) which have courted these so called elite in major cities and allowed even middle class Thais to accumulate wealth and enjoy a lifestyle that is little more than a dream to millions of ordinary Thai people

The other factor is that his style appeals to many people - I am sure Abhisit is a good man and in many ways a good prime minister but he does not come across as a dynamic strong leader which is what ordinary people probably like. Love or hate Tony Blair but he had that charisma and I think would won our last election if he had not handed power to gordon Brown. At this level TV personality is the most important factor in politics

Top, top post. Exceptionally insightful. It stuns me that so few people are aware of Abhisit's unbelievably generous (and the liberal in me will add 'fantastic') welfare plan, which he's trying to implement by 2016. Thaksin gets on TV, says stuff like "I'll clear your debt in 6 months" and the people cheer.

I come from abject poverty. Poorer than most in Esan. Obviously I still have many links to that world. I have paid off MANY MANY debts for extended family / acquaintances. As anyone who has tried to put a Band-Aid on stupidity knows, that is not a solution. They'll be in debt again in weeks.

Across most of the world, Abhisit would be labelled a socialist. In Thailand, he's labelled "elitist". This is because the Thais who support Thaksin care more about idiocy than policy. Thaksin is a billionaire with no conscience and he relates to them. Panders to their soothsaying mysticism. Fills their idiot minds with dreams of glory.

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http://www.time.com/...1973871,00.html

Performing dark rites to increase one's power and defeat your adversaries is as pervasive among the political class as bribery and vote buying. Even Thaksin, who became a billionaire from satellite services, computers and telecommunications, once declined to answer a reporter's question because "Mercury [was] not in the right house."

According to Wassana (author of Secrets, Trickery and Camouflage: The Improbable Phenomena), Thaksin believes he is the reincarnation of a Burmese king who killed many Thais, and so has engaged in elaborate cleansing rituals to wash away the sins of his past lives. While in power, Wassana says Thaksin performed several saiyasat, or black magic rituals, that he hoped would prolong his rule for life. While visiting Burma he sought counsel from a deformed astrologer nicknamed "ET" who is favored by the generals that have kept the country in their iron grip for more than half a century.

More ominously, Wassana says, Thaksin and many of his followers also believe he is the reincarnation of King Taksin, who ruled in the late 18th century. King Taksin went mad, and so was ousted and executed in 1782 by a general who then proclaimed himself king and founded the Chakri Dynasty. (King Bhumibol, Thailand's present king, is a descendant of that general and part of the Chakri Dynasty.)

Images of King Bhumibol at Red Shirt rallies are almost completely absent. Instead, red shirt leaders keep a statue of King Taksin at their rallies, some Red Shirt guards dress in the style of King Taksin's soldiers, and banners spell the ousted prime minister's name in the manner of the 18th century king.

Thaksin may feel his time is coming, as the king is 82 and ill health. And just about any Thai will tell you that astrologers have foretold there will only be nine Chakri kings. King Bhumibol is the ninth Chakri king.

Thaksin's opponents are equally steeped in the supernatural. The generals who overthrew Thaksin made special trips to Chiang Mai to consult a leading astrologer both before and after their 2006 coup.

The Red Shirts are not the only ones to perform blood rites. Sondhi Limthongkul, leader of the anti-Thaksin Yellow Shirt movement and the owner of ASTV satellite news network, spread menstrual blood at the base of a statue in a black magic ritual meant to neutralize Thaksin's supernatural weapons. It was just one of several acts staged by Sondhi with black magic overtones.

And all political factions and the military are wary of Newin Chidchob, a political boss from Buriram near the Cambodian border who commands the Bhumjai Thai political party. Newin is something of a kingmaker, having been a loyal aide to Thaksin before switching camps so the Democrat party could govern. Newin's real value, however, may be his knowledge of the occult, and in particular Cambodian curses. "Newin's nickname in Thai politics is 'the Wizard of Khmer Black Magic','' Wassana says.

The odd man out in all of this would appear to be Oxford-educated Abhisit. Aides say he has never to their knowledge consulted astrologers or practitioners of the occult, an aberration which may contribute to his perceived lack of connection to the rural masses. In his video speeches to Red Shirt protesters, Thaksin has accused Abhisit of having no religion.

Whether they win their war of saiysat or not, the Red Shirts have certainly given resonance to the old newsroom adage: "If it bleeds, it leads.

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Abhisit - Oxford-educated, champion of the poor, proposing a welfare plan which will cover all Thais from cradle to grave, liberal, peace-loving, egalitarian - but, Thaksin reminds his idiot followers, "he's not religious", so....

A wise man once said "Every nation deserves the government it has."

Thailand will deserve what Thailand gets. And it's rare to hear a liberal admit it, but Thailand's poor really will deserve their future poverty if they continue to fight for it. It is impossible to help people who have no desire to help themselves.

[chantorn]

hanuman1 (I had 5 quotes, was allowed only 4 - it was like Sophie's Choice...)

What are you hoping to discover? That people who are horrified at terrorism are just pretending to be appalled? Yeah, there's promise in that line of investigation. Please pursue it all the way to the end. You'll need to be persistent. Some will be quite adamant that they actually dislike terrorism. But you'll wear them down and they'll admit the truth in the end. Go get 'em tiger.

?

Do let me know what planet you live on, maybe I'll be able to interpret your ramblings more easily.

I don't endorse terrorism. Four words. Too difficult for you? Let me know which words you have trouble with. And how about this - I don't like Taksin either. Sorry. :jap:

And since you're clearly someone with enough time on their hands to go 'Century Gothic' on us and dig up everyone's quotes to take pot shots at, how about finding one where I do try to garner sympathy for terrorism.

It'll only take half an hour before you give up and decide on a new font. You've got years left, right?

Just beat them up, and eventually everyone will admit to their crime. How I miss the medieval dungeon.

[looping]

I'm sorry, was that a 1 party government, or a 1 PERSON government they're talking about?!!!

[looping]

Thailand will deserve what Thailand gets. And it's rare to hear a liberal admit it, but Thailand's poor really will deserve their future poverty if they continue to fight for it. It is impossible to help people who have no desire to help themselves.

I agree, although you can't blame people for being uneducated. For me it's a viscious circle of the uneducated being easily deceived with empty promises. It happens in every poor country. Thaksin will promise them the Earth! And, as before, he will remind those provinces who don't vote for him that they'll be at the back of the queue when it comes to govt. spending!

Democracy just doesn't work when people who 'graduated' from grade 3 have a vote which they see as a token for a few beers. The rich man and the better (and bigger) liar will always prevail in this case, that's why Thaksin continues his struggle. He may still pull it off.

[gregb]

And how about this - I don't like Taksin either. Sorry. :jap:

OK, I'll bite. If you don't like Thaksin, then why do you like the red shirts? The red shirts are Thaksin, and Thaksin is the red shirts. They are they same thing. Inseparable. If you support one, you support the other. Your statement is a non sequitor.

The simple fact is, most of us here would support the reds if they would denounce Thaksin, but they will never do that. And therefore, the reds are an evil force that needs to be crushed, rather than a force for good and change.

I am always baffled by people who state they don't like Thaksin, but yet have sympathy for the reds. It's like saying you don't like rain but love rain. Where is the logic?

I just hope Thailand can withstand this test, keep the evil at bay, and come out stronger in the end after Thaksin is dead and buried. I want my children to grow up in country filled with hope and opportunity. If Thaksin is ever allowed to return, that dream is dead. The only person Thaksin will ever allow to have real opportunity is Thaksin.

[bob/nyc]

What is it with Thaksin and the word democracy?

Does the guy even understand the meaning?

Do You ???

Or do you think coup's are democracy ??

[whybother]

What is it with Thaksin and the word democracy?

Does the guy even understand the meaning?

Do You ???

Or do you think coup's are democracy ??

Given that Thaksin (as care Taker PM) was trying to subvert democracy by not having valid elections when the coup occured sort of evens things out doesn't it?

[rixalex]

What is it with Thaksin and the word democracy?

Does the guy even understand the meaning?

Do You ???

Or do you think coup's are democracy ??

Do you think impeachments are democracy? They forcibly remove someone from power who is accused of having broken the law. If Thai democracy were at a more advanced level, it is what would have happened to Thaksin way back at the beginning of his tenure when he attempted to hide his assets. Unfortunately, Thai democracy is not that advanced and it is also vulnerable to being abused. Thaksin abused it by putting friends and family members in positions where there should have been impartial people keeping a check on his remit of power. A coup is possibly the worst way of unseating someone from power in terms of democracy, but it is also at times the only way.

[brahmburgers]

'Ain't been no peace in the barnyard since the big red rooster been gone.'

......from an olde blues tune

[Crushdepth]

If Pheu Thai forms a government, legislation to grant amnesty to people banned from politics will be "urgently tabled and reconciliatory bids will be streamlined"

Actually Thaksin is on the run for a *criminal* conviction, so this legislation shouldn't help bring him home. Unless it is somewhat broader than advertised

[Samuian]

well there has just been a fresh refill of the war chest, frozen money given back.... TiT - I would not wonder he makes a come back - then every thing will be restarted...this guy won't give up he has a dream and want's this dream see fulfilled, much worse he mausthavean awful lot of resentment to clear, with an awful lot of people - will be interesting times.

Some 30.000.000.000 in excess can move a lot, in a country where 100.000 is quite a lot to many people already.

[Buchholz]

'Ain't been no peace in the barnyard since the big red rooster been gone.'

......from an olde blues tune

That's not the only lyrics from that Willie Dixon song that seem appropriate.

Here's a 21 year-old Mick Jagger rendition of it:

"Little Red Rooster"

I am the little red rooster

Too lazy to crow for day

I am the little red rooster

Too lazy to crow for day

Keep everything in the farm yard upset in every way

The dogs begin to bark and hounds begin to howl

Dogs begin to bark and hounds begin to howl

Watch out strange cat people

Little red rooster's on the prowl

If you see my little red rooster

Please drive him home

If you see my little red rooster

Please drive him home

Ain't had no peace in the farm yard

Since my little red rooster's been gone

[inmysights]

Abhisit - Oxford-educated, champion of the poor, proposing a welfare plan which will cover all Thais from cradle to grave, liberal, peace-loving, egalitarian - but, Thaksin reminds his idiot followers, "he's not religious", so....

A wise man once said "Every nation deserves the government it has."

Thailand will deserve what Thailand gets. And it's rare to hear a liberal admit it, but Thailand's poor really will deserve their future poverty if they continue to fight for it. It is impossible to help people who have no desire to help themselves.

I find your last paragraph extremely offensive. You are making sweeping generalisations about an entire race. I have known many hardworking people who have had the 'status quo' drummed into them from the cradle, but still support the faction representing, to all intents and purposes, the party/ies which do not support Taksin, if you er, get my drift.

From reading this forum one would surmise that all people from Isaan are pro Taksin, not so, I will accept that many are, but if you were reduced to living in a hut with no walls looking forward to your next meal of fried ants, (okay, I'm stretching it a bit), any light at the end of that impoverished tunnel, no matter how fleeting, might very well appeal.

There are many people here in the predominantly 'Yellow' South who hare also living on the margins of abject poverty. The way this country has been er, run, has lead to the current situation. And the ruling class (read Democrat, there's an oxymoron if ever there was one) has allowed this belated backlash to happen. Som nom bloody na.

[Pi Sek]

Abhisit - Oxford-educated, champion of the poor, proposing a welfare plan which will cover all Thais from cradle to grave, liberal, peace-loving, egalitarian - but, Thaksin reminds his idiot followers, "he's not religious", so....

A wise man once said "Every nation deserves the government it has."

Thailand will deserve what Thailand gets. And it's rare to hear a liberal admit it, but Thailand's poor really will deserve their future poverty if they continue to fight for it. It is impossible to help people who have no desire to help themselves.

I find your last paragraph extremely offensive. You are making sweeping generalisations about an entire race. I have known many hardworking people who have had the 'status quo' drummed into them from the cradle, but still support the faction representing, to all intents and purposes, the party/ies which do not support Taksin, if you er, get my drift.

From reading this forum one would surmise that all people from Isaan are pro Taksin, not so, I will accept that many are, but if you were reduced to living in a hut with no walls looking forward to your next meal of fried ants, (okay, I'm stretching it a bit), any light at the end of that impoverished tunnel, no matter how fleeting, might very well appeal.

There are many people here in the predominantly 'Yellow' South who hare also living on the margins of abject poverty. The way this country has been er, run, has lead to the current situation. And the ruling class (read Democrat, there's an oxymoron if ever there was one) has allowed this belated backlash to happen. Som nom bloody na.

I have to say, I didn't find looping's post offensive at all. But, if I did, I would find your last paragraph offensive too, suggesting that "all southerners are yellows". I realise you said the word "predominantly", but looping didn't say anything at all generalising khon Isaan in their entirety. What he said was that there are Grade 3 graduates who see their vote as a beer ticket - which is true in all parts of Thailand, but especially so in Isaan - but noone is suggesting that all Isaan voters act in this way.

And as for declaring the ruling class as the Democrat Party... no, not quite, although I can see the ties. Please remember, there is not 2 sides to this as widely proported in mainstream media. There are many: Thaksin, Puea Thai, the UDD & red shirts (two separate entities if you're looking to be objective), the UDD splinter groups, the PAD/NPP & the yellow shirts (again, two different entities), the army, the group we're not allowed to talk about, the Democrats. And I'm sure that list isn't close to being comprehensive!

[TheyCallmeScooter]

Abhisit - Oxford-educated, champion of the poor, proposing a welfare plan which will cover all Thais from cradle to grave, liberal, peace-loving, egalitarian - but, Thaksin reminds his idiot followers, "he's not religious", so....

A wise man once said "Every nation deserves the government it has."

Thailand will deserve what Thailand gets. And it's rare to hear a liberal admit it, but Thailand's poor really will deserve their future poverty if they continue to fight for it. It is impossible to help people who have no desire to help themselves.

I find your last paragraph extremely offensive.

From reading this forum one would surmise that all people from Isaan are pro Taksin, not so, I will accept that many are, but if you were reduced to living in a hut with no walls looking forward to your next meal of fried ants, (okay, I'm stretching it a bit), any light at the end of that impoverished tunnel, no matter how fleeting, might very well appeal.

There are many people here in the predominantly 'Yellow' South who hare also living on the margins of abject poverty. The way this country has been er, run, has lead to the current situation. And the ruling class (read Democrat, there's an oxymoron if ever there was one) has allowed this belated backlash to happen. Som nom bloody na.

I have to say, I didn't find looping's post offensive at all. But, if I did, I would find your last paragraph offensive too, suggesting that "all southerners are yellows". I realise you said the word "predominantly", but looping didn't say anything at all generalising khon Isaan in their entirety. What he said was that there are Grade 3 graduates who see their vote as a beer ticket - which is true in all parts of Thailand, but especially so in Isaan - but noone is suggesting that all Isaan voters act in this way.

Actually, it was I who was quoted (not looping).

And to the offended inmysights...I would offer you my condolences for your ignorance, but I cannot offer you my apologies for your offence.

This is my exact point, you see. You're clearly oblivious to the fact that Abhisit has already delivered more than Thaksin ever did, and - AND - is attempting to implement more than Thaksin ever will. Abhisit is trying - if the idiot poor will let him - to give them a welfare state.

But the idiots aren't interested in silver and gold. They'd rather play with the copper trinkets Thaksin has given them, whilst they dream about (and fight for) even MORE-SHINY trinkets Thaksin has promised them.

They're stupid.

You're...do the maths. If you can. *snicker*

You cannot help those with ZERO interest in helping themselves. Som nom na. Indeed.

[TheyCallmeScooter]

If Pheu Thai forms a government, legislation to grant amnesty to people banned from politics will be "urgently tabled and reconciliatory bids will be streamlined"

Actually Thaksin is on the run for a *criminal* conviction, so this legislation shouldn't help bring him home. Unless it is somewhat broader than advertised

I'm pretty sure that it was - actually - advertised.

I'm pretty sure the advertisement you missed is quite clearly there. I've highlighted what I believe to be the advertisement in red.

[TheyCallmeScooter]

I want my children to grow up in country filled with hope and opportunity. If Thaksin is ever allowed to return, that dream is dead. The only person Thaksin will ever allow to have real opportunity is Thaksin.

Well Greg, that's just selfish. What about Thaksin's children? Don't they deserve a fair go?

You're also being a bit unfair to Thaksin. He allows heaps of people, dozens even, to have a real opportunity. Unless of course, you believe being offered ShinCorp shares at B1 / share isn't genuine opportunity...

[rubl]

I want my children to grow up in country filled with hope and opportunity. If Thaksin is ever allowed to return, that dream is dead. The only person Thaksin will ever allow to have real opportunity is Thaksin.

Well Greg, that's just selfish. What about Thaksin's children? Don't they deserve a fair go?

You're also being a bit unfair to Thaksin. He allows heaps of people, dozens even, to have a real opportunity. Unless of course, you believe being offered ShinCorp shares at B1 / share isn't genuine opportunity...

k. Thaksin's children don't really need a fair go. Papa said a few weeks ago he went back to work to feed them. Their shopping habits may be a bit tough on their weekly allowance though.