Nawtier Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 Anyone know how to find the specific tourist numbers for a particular demographic to Pattaya ? Particularly the type that like the night life..... And if possible broken into monthly numbers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullx8 Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 ?? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contemplating Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Please explain! Doesnt seem like anyone understands what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moddeydhoo Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I dont think this is what you are after but its still interesting. http://www.tourism.go.th/2010/en/statistic/tourism.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laban Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 I had heard 2 million a year about 2 years ago, but that probably includes Thais on holiday, and much like the TAT ''official'' figures of 15 m per annum for the whole of Thailand, it is all meaningless to me as no one keeps proper figures. There are about 60,000 hotel rooms in Pattaya, so you can make your own calculations with an average stay of 7-10 days. I have heard mostly since April that many hotels have been running at 10% occupancy particularly during the demos in Bangkok. I hope this is confusing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 just trying to get an idea of the number of tourists that visit pattaya per year for the naughty night life as a priority.....and sun n surf comes later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contemplating Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 If you ask the members of TV, they will all tell you the come for the sun only, its kinda secrete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 secrete what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 I don't think we are interested in other people's secretions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Somehow I doubt TAT is going to do a survey on said subject. Anyways prob looking for single lad demographic,and dare say that will be close to what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 just trying to get an idea of the number of tourists that visit pattaya per year for the naughty night life as a priority.....and sun n surf comes later. I think there is some sort of denial that (1) prostitution exists and (2) the importance of sex to Pattaya's economy...so I think there maybe no "official" stats to deny or confirm the info you seek. The authorities prefer to bask in ignorance (rather than openly embracing Pattaya's strength(weakness??) and planning accordingly for it) and continue feign horror whenever prostitutes, ladyboys, pedophiles, sexpats and sundry perverts surface in this town. Maybe you can estimate by multiplying estimate of tourists in one bar by the estimated number of bars/"massage" parlours in town...just a very rough formula that may well be better than anything the officials have??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 Rough enough is good enough for my voyage....but dont want a number plucked from the sky. single lads as mentioned would be a good starting point.....or single travellers actually...not only single as marked on their arrivals cards. Would it be more than 500,000 per year ? What are th busiest months for Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 curious - why do u need to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 For a little project I am working on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 what is the project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 You would also have to include a substantial percentage of the Arab and Indian package and group tourists, and a much smaller percentage of the Russian tourists, if you were coming up with figures for nightlife lovers. Overall numbers, if you think (which I do) there might be 200,000 tourists here on any day of the week, and they are here on 2 week holidays, 200,000 x 26 weeks = 5,200,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 200k a day ? really...in Pattaya ? Sounds a tad high, I just come back from 3 days there and so many empty restaurants at around 7/8pm ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 200k a day ? really...in Pattaya ? Sounds a tad high, I just come back from 3 days there and so many empty restaurants at around 7/8pm ish. Ask yourself why that might be - they are all package-touristing it up in their hotels with set meals and the like. I've lived here for 9 years (a short time compared to some BMs) and I am comfortable with my estimate for tourists in Jomtien, Pattaya, Naklua and the Dark Side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorillagrower Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Think you will struggle to find a chart for number of sex tourists per year, I sure your are aware of which months are peak/high season. Number of Tourists in Pattaya(Million) 2007 -6.7 2008- 5.6 2009 - 4.3 Number of tourists in pattaya by nationality 2009 --- Thai-29 percent Russian-14.9 percent Chinese-9.6 Taiwanese-6 German-5.4 Indian-4.6 British-3.6 Middle eastern-3.2 Korean-3 American-2.5 Others-19.3 Office of Tourism Development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 curious - why do u need to know? Maybe he want to open a Bar Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nawtier Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 curious - why do u need to know? Maybe he want to open a Bar Beer I always thought the research process for opening a bar in pattaya was wake up, look around, scratch ya nuts and say 'yep'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryofthailand Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Tat admits the numbers are skewed. The reason being is the way they accumulate the tourist numbers for Pattaya. It's done through hotel check ins mostly. so say someone checks in a hotel in Pattaya stays for one week, then goes some where else or checks into another hotel they are counted more than once. Same with the tourist numbers from the airport. If you live say in Pattaya, fly home, and come back, your counted as a tourist. I don't believe two million people visit Pattaya a year. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Nowadays it is quite easy, count the farangs, split them into desired categories, the balance of 99 % will not contribute to any business in Pattaya whatever (Iranian Tours, Chinese Tours, Russian Tours...etc. all prepaid inclusive). Kind of depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 You would also have to include a substantial percentage of the Arab and Indian package and group tourists, and a much smaller percentage of the Russian tourists, if you were coming up with figures for nightlife lovers. Overall numbers, if you think (which I do) there might be 200,000 tourists here on any day of the week, and they are here on 2 week holidays, 200,000 x 26 weeks = 5,200,000 Its always amazed me that no one can put a figure on the inhabitants of Pattaya let alone the tourists. 200k sounds way high, how many hotel rooms are there, I thought around 32k, here someone states 60k, if its 60k every hotel would have to be full with 3.something or other people in each room? Maybe they are??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 You would also have to include a substantial percentage of the Arab and Indian package and group tourists, and a much smaller percentage of the Russian tourists, if you were coming up with figures for nightlife lovers. Overall numbers, if you think (which I do) there might be 200,000 tourists here on any day of the week, and they are here on 2 week holidays, 200,000 x 26 weeks = 5,200,000 Its always amazed me that no one can put a figure on the inhabitants of Pattaya let alone the tourists. 200k sounds way high, how many hotel rooms are there, I thought around 32k, here someone states 60k, if its 60k every hotel would have to be full with 3.something or other people in each room? Maybe they are??? Never ever 200,000 tourists a day! The city would be bursting. What the heck, as there is no proper registration (thanks god), there will never be a reliable figure. But may be our all mighty major thinks that he has 200,000 visitors a day, so that the city is in desperate need for the elevated PTS (Pattaya train system). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojourner007 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Pattaya tourist nationalities during Jan 2007- Jun 2010 See chart attached - The data source is tourist accommodation regional statistics compiled by TAT and available on their website. While larger hotels most likely provide fairly complete information to the authorities about the foreign guests it is possible that smaller guest houses are less diligent in such a task. As many Western tourists to Pattaya are cheap charlies and stay at guest houses not all of them may be accounted for in the abovementioned statistics. I assume that the data have been properly screened to take into account the cases when the same tourist stays at more than one hotel during the trip. - Chinese dominate low season, Russians dominate high season (this year, 2010, Russians dominate low season too) - Indian tourism to Pattaya fell in 2008 and has not significantly increased since then - The numbers of British and Korean tourists in Pattaya have been falling over the last 4 years - Germans however rebounded strongly in 2010 after a fall in numbers in 2008-2009 - There has not been any dramatic change in the number of of tourists from the Middle east through the period Other observations drawn from the TAT statistics (not shown on the chart): -Western tourists constituted 20-30% of all foreign visitors to Pattaya in 2007-2010. I could not see any clear upward or downward trend in their share of total Pattaya tourism - Share of Anglo-Saxons (US, UK, Canada, Australia & New Zealand) has been only 6-15% of all foreign tourists during the period. Again there does not seem to be any clear time trend up or down, but the share seems to increase though in low season. - Russians represent 30% in low season, and 60% in high season, of all tourists from Caucasian countries . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronz28 Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Depends on whether or not you want the numbers with or without counting all the ghosts. :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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