LivinLOS Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Looking for 200 or 500 Mbps kit. Going powerline over wifi will give me better connection options for dreamboxes and media players. So going to have an experiment with this. Need 5 nodes so a 5 pack would be great. Any domestic suppliers.. Shop4Thai is the only one I have found and its not a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Is this legal in Thailand? Powerline can radiate all kinds of unwanted radio signals as the wires act as an antenna. There is big controversy over this technology in Europe. http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/enforcement/spectrum-enforcement/plt/ http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1286250 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1021150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Fortune IT Mall shop on the left as you come up the escalator (One with all the network products dlink etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 3, 2010 Author Share Posted November 3, 2010 Fortune IT Mall shop on the left as you come up the escalator (One with all the network products dlink etc) Any email or contact ?? I am not in BKK or it would be easier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 sorry no idea. I just know where it is from numerous visits to fortune. Maybe another member will have more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filingaccount Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Zonelink Co., Ltd. 02-6420592 No email nor website, but they do carry a lot of decent network equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damole Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I'd been thinking about homeplugs and so went to the TPLink service centre in Ikon, Chiang Mai. They have the TL-PA201 in stock but I think the lady there said 2700 THB for one. I will go back and check but you can buy a pair on Amazon UK for 41 GBP so that would make them ridiculously expensive. I'd like to get a 802.11n simultaneous dual radio ADSL modem router but the only one available here (Chiang Mai) is the Belkin Play Max ADSL and according to this review it has a fatal flaw. Maybe a firmware update has fixed it but I'd like to be sure first. --damole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 5, 2010 Author Share Posted November 5, 2010 Was that 2700 per unit or for the starter kit (2 pack).. I need 5 - 7 of them maybe even more if I dont want to use switches and I dont but might do to keep costs down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Powerline causes massive Radio Frquency Interference (RFI) ans should therefore be banned, as discussed in the EU currently, as a preposter mentioned. Hope that you are not my neighbor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 SO do microwave ovens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 And Plasma TV's...not LCD/LED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astral Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 And Plasma TV's...not LCD/LED! Usually it is the swtiching power supplies that caus the problems rather than the TV itself. I have never heard of a problem with microwave cookers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 And Plasma TV's...not LCD/LED! Usually it is the swtiching power supplies that caus the problems rather than the TV itself. I have never heard of a problem with microwave cookers? I think that was a kind of joke, other sources of leaking RF are energy saving lamps, yes switching power supplies (especially for mobile despite the low output)some remote control etc etc. Or high voltage lines, connectors (I can tell a whole story about it) and for sure this stupid Power line ethernet. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yet telcos give it as part of home ADSL packs in the UK ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjie Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 And Plasma TV's...not LCD/LED! Usually it is the swtiching power supplies that caus the problems rather than the TV itself. I have never heard of a problem with microwave cookers? No, Its true. Some microwaves can interfere with wireless signals so much that it makes them unusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Yet telcos give it as part of home ADSL packs in the UK ?? Yeah that's why BT and others are under fire. If I remember correctly, Sweden has already banned powerline. Here is an interesting link with all kinds of possible interference sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Unless there are some distance issues, or installation challenges, I might consider pulling Cat5 and running standard gigabit ethernet as the equipment is inexpensive (hubs, routers, repeaters etc.), standardised, proven and readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 9, 2010 Author Share Posted November 9, 2010 Unless there are some distance issues, or installation challenges, I might consider pulling Cat5 and running standard gigabit ethernet as the equipment is inexpensive (hubs, routers, repeaters etc.), standardised, proven and readily available. There are install issues.. The only other thing is wifi bridges to ethernet.. Which is kinda sucky in the amount I need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damole Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I went back to the TPLink shop and checked the price, it was 3100Bt per unit. I explained that although I knew that Thailand and the UK were not the same that it seemed very expensive by comparison. The lady in the shop's answer was that in Thailand you get lifetime warranty. I'd never heard of the controversy surround powerline before so I'm back to looking for a decent dual radio modem router. --damole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I went back to the TPLink shop and checked the price, it was 3100Bt per unit. I explained that although I knew that Thailand and the UK were not the same that it seemed very expensive by comparison. The lady in the shop's answer was that in Thailand you get lifetime warranty. I'd never heard of the controversy surround powerline before so I'm back to looking for a decent dual radio modem router. --damole Yes, I think one should not support this technology. Well done and nowadays WiFi products are well working. I am very happy with my Linksys stuff, never crashed, but I installed a third party Linux based Bios on the router. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Try wifi on 50mb-100mb internet products such as True highspeed 50mb. Dont work that good even on Wireless N. Powerline or Hard wiring is the only way to go with these products if max consistent throughput is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 Wifi simply doesnt solve the need.. 6 dreambox nodes that need a network connection and a rented villa that cannot be drilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) I went back to the TPLink shop and checked the price, it was 3100Bt per unit. I explained that although I knew that Thailand and the UK were not the same that it seemed very expensive by comparison. The lady in the shop's answer was that in Thailand you get lifetime warranty. I'd never heard of the controversy surround powerline before so I'm back to looking for a decent dual radio modem router. --damole Linksys E2000 or E3000? Dual radio and WiFi up to 300 Mbps. Edited November 10, 2010 by lomatopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moo9 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 If you can afford 6 dreamboxes, you might be in a position to settle all RFI related trouble with the neighbors :-) Otherwise Powerline is a dead technology, might even not work as fast as in countries with a high quality electric network. And you have to judge yourself if you like to pollute every sqm of your house with constant intermissions ranging from 2 - 130 MHz at least, at uncontrollable field strength (you can regulate the power of unwanted leaking HF). If I would really need a stable connection, nothing will beat the ethernet cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Using Netgear 200mb powerline getting 140mb throughout the condo 24/7 with Thailands dodgy electrical supply/wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomatopo Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Using Netgear 200mb powerline getting 140mb throughout the condo 24/7 with Thailands dodgy electrical supply/wiring. What applications require 140 Mega bits per second 24/7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 Streaming video to TV's (3 apple tv)'s, 50mb true internet downloading and copying files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 If you can afford 6 dreamboxes, you might be in a position to settle all RFI related trouble with the neighbors :-) Otherwise Powerline is a dead technology, might even not work as fast as in countries with a high quality electric network. And you have to judge yourself if you like to pollute every sqm of your house with constant intermissions ranging from 2 - 130 MHz at least, at uncontrollable field strength (you can regulate the power of unwanted leaking HF). If I would really need a stable connection, nothing will beat the ethernet cable. Its not my house.. Cant run ethernet.. And the pool areas are simply unworkable form the house and will have a media center for music and stuff by the pool. What actual experiences have you had with this interference ?? Not read maybe online.. But actually seen ?? Cos powerline seems all the rage back in the west.. Getting faster and faster.. and as I point out given by the actual national telco to redistribute net round homes. I tend to trust the fact that euro has no restrictions.. And the telcos there recommended it.. over a few online reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 Using Netgear 200mb powerline getting 140mb throughout the condo 24/7 with Thailands dodgy electrical supply/wiring. What applications require 140 Mega bits per second 24/7? Streaming high def to the media centers.. I intend to put a boxee box in every bedroom and one the pool sala.. That way the whole house is able to access the media jukebox system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negreanu Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 No problem in USA regulations, Singapore and HK and Japan.... Drama Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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