I wasn't impressed by Navit and uninstalled it within 24 hours.

Agreed. Very rough!

I have Garmin with Thai maps (now a little outdated) on an old PocketPC with GPS receiver, probably the best GPS software I've tried, but unfortunately doesn't seem available for Android at this time.

Co-pilot. Now used it in the US as well as Europe and it was superb. As I mentioned in an earlier thread its also available for Thailand and other countries in the region, Not the cheapest of options maybe but certainly worth thinking about if you do a bit of travelling. Previous link.

Here.

I am running Google Maps with Navigation, and TTS. It is a little challenging to load but is working fine. I'm pretty sure you can download everything you need for a route at home via WiFi then no mobile data requirements.

I am running Google Maps with Navigation, and TTS. It is a little challenging to load but is working fine. I'm pretty sure you can download everything you need for a route at home via WiFi then no mobile data requirements.

A bit limiting though....what about if you need to change your route ? Not very practical for somewhere like Bangkok. I use Co-pilot as all the maps are preloaded. No mobile data needed so although its a higher initial cost it can soon start to pay for itself if you do a bit of travelling.

I am running Google Maps with Navigation, and TTS. It is a little challenging to load but is working fine. I'm pretty sure you can download everything you need for a route at home via WiFi then no mobile data requirements.

A bit limiting though....what about if you need to change your route ? Not very practical for somewhere like Bangkok. I use Co-pilot as all the maps are preloaded. No mobile data needed so although its a higher initial cost it can soon start to pay for itself if you do a bit of travelling.

I have mobile data, 3G from True and/or TOT (in Bangkok) and 2G (True and/or AIS) elsewhere. Again this is just one alternative that might work for some?

Google Maps Navigation to get offline mode? Garmin and TomTom on notice

Dutch tech site All About Phones claims that Google Maps Navigation will get a true offline mode later this summer. In December the Android app received an update that cached routes and the surrounding areas, but without a data connection you still couldn't enter a new destination. A source inside the Dutch telco industry said that Goog would removing the requirement for coverage -- an obvious next step for the nav tool, especially with Ovi Maps bringing its turn-by-turn prowess to WP7. The move is also bound to be another thorn in the side of standalone GPS makers like Garmin and TomTom. After all, it's tough to compete with free.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/google-maps-navigation-to-go-offline-this-summer-garmin-and-tom/

Biggest problem i have had with a phone and maps is the window tint in the car killing the GPS signal so its so slow to update, this doesnt seem to happen on the Garmin Nuvi as much as the phone.

Biggest problem i have had with a phone and maps is the window tint in the car killing the GPS signal so its so slow to update, this doesnt seem to happen on the Garmin Nuvi as much as the phone.

Totally agree. In the case of the Samsung Galaxy S and my version, the Captivate, serious compromises were made to the GPS antenna system to accommodate the svelte design. However , there are a number of software fixes available which greatly enhance performance (lock time, # of satellites, accuracy). Some of these fixes are stand-alone (flashable zips) and/or included in custom ROMs. I chose a custom ROM based on GPS performance, among a few other criteria. I was able to get this lock in less than 30 seconds. I'm still experimenting so cannot say this solution is even passable. (Note that I can also run Google Earth.)

Edited June 11, 201115 yr by lomatopo

Biggest problem i have had with a phone and maps is the window tint in the car killing the GPS signal so its so slow to update, this doesnt seem to happen on the Garmin Nuvi as much as the phone.

Totally agree. In the case of the Samsung Galaxy S and my version, the Captivate, serious compromises were made to the GPS antenna system to accommodate the svelte design. However , there are a number of software fixes available which greatly enhance performance (lock time, # of satellites, accuracy). Some of these fixes are stand-alone (flashable zips) and/or included in custom ROMs. I chose a custom ROM based on GPS performance, among a few other criteria. I was able to get this lock in less than 30 seconds. I'm still experimenting so cannot say this solution is even passable. (Note that I can also run Google Earth.)

My Garmin nuvi GPS usually registers 4 meter (13.1 foot) accuracy even with the window tint. No enhanced performance software or custom ROMs needed.

Biggest problem i have had with a phone and maps is the window tint in the car killing the GPS signal so its so slow to update, this doesnt seem to happen on the Garmin Nuvi as much as the phone.

Totally agree. In the case of the Samsung Galaxy S and my version, the Captivate, serious compromises were made to the GPS antenna system to accommodate the svelte design. However , there are a number of software fixes available which greatly enhance performance (lock time, # of satellites, accuracy). Some of these fixes are stand-alone (flashable zips) and/or included in custom ROMs. I chose a custom ROM based on GPS performance, among a few other criteria. I was able to get this lock in less than 30 seconds. I'm still experimenting so cannot say this solution is even passable. (Note that I can also run Google Earth.)

My Garmin nuvi GPS usually registers 4 meter (13.1 foot) accuracy even with the window tint. No enhanced performance software or custom ROMs needed.

FWIW, Perhaps you are confused. My statements are in reference to an Android phone running GPS, which is the topic of this thread. Is your Garmin Nuvi an Android phone?

FWIW, Perhaps you are confused. My statements are in reference to an Android phone running GPS, which is the topic of this thread. Is your Garmin Nuvi an Android phone?

No, but it is a good GPS and that is what all the complaining is about.

FWIW, Perhaps you are confused. My statements are in reference to an Android phone running GPS, which is the topic of this thread. Is your Garmin Nuvi an Android phone?

No, but it is a good GPS and that is what all the complaining is about.

No problem, I'm sure your Garmin Nuvi GPS is a wonderful GPS. In this thread we are discussing GPS on Andorid smartphones, with all its inherent hurdles.

FWIW, I do like the Speech to Text function on Android, obviously it is great for searching, creating text/email, dialing - well basically any input. For GPS you click on Settings, Search, click the micorphone icon in the Google search bar and say "navigate to....." and it immediately takes you into the Navigation platform. way cool. (Yes, I bet Garmin Nuvi's have speech reco too. ).

I like to work with OsmAND which you find here. It is a software to run Open Street Maps which you have do download on a by country base from inside the program. I suggest WIFI for that. Maps are stored on the Card and also OsmAND can be moved to the card.

You can change local and english names on the map inside the program. Some nice addon programs available. All is free and I find the maps for Thailand and Germany exact and useful.

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In a word, Wow!

Available in the Market, search for OsmAnd. Once installed you can download maps, like Thailand. Looks very nice. Will experiment with it. Thank you very much.

My Garmin nuvi GPS usually registers 4 meter (13.1 foot) accuracy even with the window tint. No enhanced performance software or custom ROMs needed.

Don't believe what Garmin tells you, they can display what they like to sell their gear and usually its just a geometric precision (PDOP). Basic GPS theory in text books will explain why GPS navigators using USDOD GPS satellites will never be better than 5-15m accuracy as their are many components to the GPS error.

My Garmin nuvi GPS usually registers 4 meter (13.1 foot) accuracy even with the window tint. No enhanced performance software or custom ROMs needed.

Don't believe what Garmin tells you, they can display what they like to sell their gear and usually its just a geometric precision (PDOP). Basic GPS theory in text books will explain why GPS navigators using USDOD GPS satellites will never be better than 5-15m accuracy as their are many components to the GPS error.

From the Garmin website:

Accuracy Values by Garmin Receivers

Accuracy of position determination The declaration of the accuracy by Garmin GPS receivers often leads to confusion. What does it mean if the receiver states an accuracy of 4 m? This readout refers to the so-called 50 % CEP (Circular Error Probable). This means that 50 % of all measurements are within a radius of 4 m. On the other hand, 50 % of all measured positions are outside of this radius. Furthermore, 95 % of all measured positions are within a circle of twice this radius and 98.9 % of all positions are within a circle of 2.55 the radius. In the given example, nearly all positions are within circle with a radius of 10 m. The determined position is in the worst case accurate to 10 m.

Basic GPS theory in text books will explain why GPS navigators using USDOD GPS satellites will never be better than 5-15m accuracy as their are many components to the GPS error.

I doubt that a commercial airline pilot, or the FAA, using a GPS based instrument landing system would agree with that accuracy statement.

Basic GPS theory in text books will explain why GPS navigators using USDOD GPS satellites will never be better than 5-15m accuracy as their are many components to the GPS error.

I doubt that a commercial airline pilot, or the FAA, using a GPS based instrument landing system would agree with that accuracy statement.

Airline pilots don't use GPS navigation messages to land a plane. The poster before showed you the error circle from Garmin. This is basic theory. 10-15m is the circle of error. There's a lot more to landing a plane. Ask a pilot.

Basic GPS theory in text books will explain why GPS navigators using USDOD GPS satellites will never be better than 5-15m accuracy as their are many components to the GPS error.

I doubt that a commercial airline pilot, or the FAA, using a GPS based instrument landing system would agree with that accuracy statement.

Airline pilots don't use GPS navigation messages to land a plane. The poster before showed you the error circle from Garmin. This is basic theory. 10-15m is the circle of error. There's a lot more to landing a plane. Ask a pilot.

"The Honeywell SmartPath GBAS is the next-generation navigation technology that supports precision approach and landings using Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite data and transmits digital guidance signals to aircraft systems."

Basic GPS theory in text books will explain why GPS navigators using USDOD GPS satellites will never be better than 5-15m accuracy as their are many components to the GPS error.

I doubt that a commercial airline pilot, or the FAA, using a GPS based instrument landing system would agree with that accuracy statement.

Airline pilots don't use GPS navigation messages to land a plane. The poster before showed you the error circle from Garmin. This is basic theory. 10-15m is the circle of error. There's a lot more to landing a plane. Ask a pilot.

"The Honeywell SmartPath GBAS is the next-generation navigation technology that supports precision approach and landings using Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite data and transmits digital guidance signals to aircraft systems."

I think the keywords are "and transmits digital guidance signals". It's not GPS-only but a combination of GPS and guidance signals. See ILS for details.

Airline pilots don't use GPS navigation messages to land a plane. The poster before showed you the error circle from Garmin. This is basic theory. 10-15m is the circle of error. There's a lot more to landing a plane. Ask a pilot.

"The Honeywell SmartPath GBAS is the next-generation navigation technology that supports precision approach and landings using Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite data and transmits digital guidance signals to aircraft systems."

I think the keywords are "and transmits digital guidance signals". It's not GPS-only but a combination of GPS and guidance signals. See ILS for details.

"The first GPS-powered landing of an Airbus A380 –Qantas flagship Nancy-Bird Walton – took place at Sydney in January 2009."

Back on topic...Google Maps now allows you to download (cache) map "squares". I seemed to max out at 10 "squares". There may be a work-around for that limitation?

I've been happy with this Google Maps/Navigation "hack", I think I'm on 5.8. I do not have to land a plane.

...FWIW, I do like the Speech to Text function on Android, obviously it is great for searching, creating text/email, dialing - well basically any input. For GPS you click on Settings, Search, click the micorphone icon in the Google search bar and say "navigate to....." and it immediately takes you into the Navigation platform. way cool...

Are you saying that Google Maps Navigation is now available in Thailand? I cant't test it because I am in Europe at the moment.

2D (map) and step-by-step (list) navigation is available, but not the 3D navigation known from Garmin etc.

2D (map) and step-by-step (list) navigation is available, but not the 3D navigation known from Garmin etc.

But only as a hack.. not straight of the plane so to speak

2D (map) and step-by-step (list) navigation is available, but not the 3D navigation known from Garmin etc.

But only as a hack.. not straight of the plane so to speak

I admit my phone is hacked any way possible, but I think this functionality is standard in Google Maps now.

2D (map) and step-by-step (list) navigation is available, but not the 3D navigation known from Garmin etc.

But only as a hack.. not straight of the plane so to speak

I admit my phone is hacked any way possible, but I think this functionality is standard in Google Maps now.

Well it is, or it isn't. Do you have Navigation in Google Maps?

Yes, Google Maps Navigation is available for Thailand. I had to hack my phone to get it to work, but it works fine for me.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007132

I honestly do not know if Navigation works now on stock local Google Maps?

specifically, this is the procedure I used...this requires a rooted phone and familiarity with ADB

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14063138&postcount=497

1. In Titanium Backup, select Maps and make a backup.

2. Select Maps and wipe data, then uninstall.

3. Select Street View and wipe data, then uninstall

then i install the official version of GMAP 5.4.0.

Download Link

http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...3&d=1304582534

4. In Titanium Backup, select Maps and make a backup.

5. Select Maps and wipe data, then uninstall.

6.Install Google Maps 5.x ownhere-resign.apk

Edited September 10, 201114 yr by lomatopo

Hm, I'm quite sure I didn't do any of the above... Maps > About says version 5.10.00 if that's a hint?

yep.. just checked the latest version has navigation.. at bloody last.

yep.. just checked the latest version has navigation.. at bloody last.

It does NOT HAVE NAVIGATION. ie no turn by turn voice navigation. even though the market says it does ...grrrrrrrrr. I have to reload the cracked copy now ...

I guess we'll just have to be patient a little longer. I believe Google is working on it at the moment but it is of course impossible to get any comment about it from Google.