Freed Red-Shirt Leaders To Attend March 12 Rally In Bangkok

[webfact]

Freed red-shirt leaders to attend March 12 rally

By THE NATION

Despite being warned about violating their bail condition, the seven freed red-shirt leaders will join the March 12 rally, which might go on all night until the censure vote in the morning, organisers said yesterday.

"Protests will take place on March 12 and again on March 19 to demand justice for the 150 red shirts still in remand," said Thida Thawornseth, acting chairwoman of the red-shirt movement.

The demonstrations will continue until all the jailed red shirts are released, since they have been held in custody despite weak evidence and politically trumped-up charges, she said.

The red shirts would not rest until the truth about last year's bloodshed emerged, she said.

The reversal in the explanation of how Japanese cameraman Hiro Muramoto died during the unrest was a case of the government trying to confuse the issue, she said.

The question was about who fired the fatal shot and not about what weapon was used, she said, referring to the recent finding that it was an AK-47, and not an M-16 assault rifle as issued to riot forces, that killed him.

The Army chief would rather stage a coup than admit that the military was involved in the bloody crackdown, she added.

Pheu Thai MP Jatuporn Promphan said the rally would see a surge in numbers after people listened to the censure debate, as one of the impeachment issues was the culpability of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his deputy Suthep Thaugsuban in the slaughter of the people.

An accomplice in the murder plot was Army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha, he added.

Red-shirt spokesman Worawut Wichaidit said the government and military could not evade responsibility because the shots were fired into the crowds from the "men in black", who were seen behind the riot force lines.

Freed red leader Weng Tojirakarn said his rally speech would dwell on his experience in his remand cell.

Two other freed leaders, Nisit Sinthuprai and Vipoothalaeng Patanaphumthai, said they would speak from the rally stage to cheer on the struggle for justice.

-- The Nation 2011-03-03

[jonclark]

blah.blah, blah, blah our daily dose of bullshit.

[Buchholz]

"Protests will take place on March 12 and again on March 19 to demand justice for the 150 red shirts still in remand," said Thida Thawornseth, acting chairwoman of the red-shirt movement.

The perennially lying Red Shirts fudge on their promise to stay to one rally per month...

The always honest Jatuporn strikes again...

BANGKOK, January 24

Red Shirt co-leader and Opposition MP Jatuporn Prompan said the UDD would adjust their strategy and protest only once a month in the future to avoid making trouble for the public.

and since going from one rally to two rallies per month isn't quite a big enough lie, they've bumped it up to three rallies this month...

And another Red Shirt rally even sooner...

Thai "red-shirts" plan to organize massive rally in Lopburi on March 6

An anti-government or the "red- shirt" coordinator in central Lopburi province said on Tuesday that the group plans to organize massive rally on March 6 from 06: 00 p.m. local time. Police Colonel Chukiat Duangchana, the co-leader of "red-shirt" movement in Lopburi, said that an estimated 25,000 supporters from the central region as well as others are expected to turn out on that day.

Stage speech delivered by recently released leaders -- Nutthawut Saikua and Weng Tojirakarn -- would highlight the activity on that day, according to Chukiat. Nutthawut Saikua and Weng Tojirakarn are among seven detained "red-shirt" leaders who were released temporarily on bails by the Criminal Court on Feb. 22 which banned them from leaving the country or inciting their supporters to stir unrest.

Continues:

http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7305111.html

Xinhua - March 2, 2011

[asiawatcher]

And with the Govt about to dissolve the House - who gives a dam_n - These red thugs need a lesson in manners and a dose of etiquette in how to consider fellow Thai's in the disruption and costs they cause. There is no need for any more protests, you can display your dissatisfaction when you cast your vote - but in the norm for the Jutaporn led rabble - he will continue to whinge - try to make mountains out of mole hills, to have media keep his name in the limelight. A pure narcissistic egocentric man with no consideration for his country or people - purely self promotion and cowardly hiding behind parliamentary privilege.

[Who, me ?]

What will be the next reason for them to rally?

[AZBill]

And with the Govt about to dissolve the House - who gives a dam_n - These red thugs need a lesson in manners and a dose of etiquette in how to consider fellow Thai's in the disruption and costs they cause. There is no need for any more protests, you can display your dissatisfaction when you cast your vote - but in the norm for the Jutaporn led rabble - he will continue to whinge - try to make mountains out of mole hills, to have media keep his name in the limelight. A pure narcissistic egocentric man with no consideration for his country or people - purely self promotion and cowardly hiding behind parliamentary privilege.

That's all any of these big mouths with bull horns are. It's always about their own power and ego. They could care less about a bunch of poor peasant farmers. Anyone with a brain should never buy into any of these idiots. If you want an example of how bad it can be when you do I have 2 words for you .......... Barack Obama! Enough said!

[animatic]

And this is unexpected?

News with a Bullet rocketing up the charts?

This is just what could be expected from these avaricious fools.

[rubl]

Red-shirt spokesman Worawut Wichaidit said the government and military could not evade responsibility because the shots were fired into the crowds from the "men in black", who were seen behind the riot force lines.

Oh, the MiB were helping the army? K. Worawut must have read Robert A's report

[jonclark]

Red-shirt spokesman Worawut Wichaidit said the government and military could not evade responsibility because the shots were fired into the crowds from the "men in black", who were seen behind the riot force lines.

Oh, the MiB were helping the army? K. Worawut must have read Robert A's report

Any evidence Worawut?? Where you there? Or are you just being a good little red sh*t and follwoing the party line?

[animatic]

Red-shirt spokesman Worawut Wichaidit said the government and military could not evade responsibility because the shots were fired into the crowds from the "men in black", who were seen behind the riot force lines.

Oh, the MiB were helping the army? K. Worawut must have read Robert A's report

K. Worawut...

time to adjust the meds, or reread your script, you seem very, very, very confused.

[webfact]

UDD core leaders confirm to join rally on 12 Mar

BANGKOK, 3 March 2011 (NNT) – Seven recently-released core leaders of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) have confirmed that they will participate in the upcoming UDD mass gathering on 12 March in order to call for justice.

Speaking in a press conference on Wednesday, UDD Spokesperson Worawut Wichaidit stated that all UDD core leaders would be attending the mass rally, which might last until next day's morning. He promised that their gathering would be peaceful and unarmed.

Acting UDD Chairperson Thida Thavornsret added that the rally on 12 March and another one scheduled for 19 March would be held to call for justice for Mr Surachai Danwattananusorn, alias Surachai Saedan, leader of the UDD splinter Red Siam, as well as all detained UDD supporters.

The acting chairperson stated that everyone arrested on political charges or held without clear evidence must be given justice and granted bail. She also stressed that there must be someone responsible for the people injured and died in the UDD protest last summer.

The seven UDD key leaders have been released on bail under the condition that they must not provoke their supporters to incite violence. The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) has advised them against attending the rally on 12 March since they might violate the bail condition.

Medical Doctor Weng Tojirakarn, one of the recently released UDD co-leaders, announced that he would join the mass gathering on Saturday and speak on stage to share his experience in prison.

-- NNT 2011-03-03

[Buchholz]

The Red Shirt Leaders are keeping busy what with their rally speeches on March 6th, March 12th, and March 19th.

Good thing they promised not to agitate matters as a condition of their bail.

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[Insight]

It's understood they've also teamed up with the Alzheimer's division to work on their rally chant:

"What do we want?"

"We don't know!"

"When do we want it?"

"What?"

[gemini81]

rebels without a cause......fools without any clues

[brianb1944]

And with the Govt about to dissolve the House - who gives a dam_n - These red thugs need a lesson in manners and a dose of etiquette in how to consider fellow Thai's in the disruption and costs they cause. There is no need for any more protests, you can display your dissatisfaction when you cast your vote - but in the norm for the Jutaporn led rabble - he will continue to whinge - try to make mountains out of mole hills, to have media keep his name in the limelight. A pure narcissistic egocentric man with no consideration for his country or people - purely self promotion and cowardly hiding behind parliamentary privilege.

Hard choice for voters, show your dissatisfaction or sell to the highest bidder, unless of course your views coincide with the party offering the best inducement.

[brianb1944]

UDD core leaders confirm to join rally on 12 Mar

BANGKOK, 3 March 2011 (NNT) – Seven recently-released core leaders of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) have confirmed that they will participate in the upcoming UDD mass gathering on 12 March in order to call for justice.

Speaking in a press conference on Wednesday, UDD Spokesperson Worawut Wichaidit stated that all UDD core leaders would be attending the mass rally, which might last until next day's morning. He promised that their gathering would be peaceful and unarmed.

Acting UDD Chairperson Thida Thavornsret added that the rally on 12 March and another one scheduled for 19 March would be held to call for justice for Mr Surachai Danwattananusorn, alias Surachai Saedan, leader of the UDD splinter Red Siam, as well as all detained UDD supporters.

The acting chairperson stated that everyone arrested on political charges or held without clear evidence must be given justice and granted bail. She also stressed that there must be someone responsible for the people injured and died in the UDD protest last summer.

The seven UDD key leaders have been released on bail under the condition that they must not provoke their supporters to incite violence. The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) has advised them against attending the rally on 12 March since they might violate the bail condition.

Someone responsible for the deaths?? look no further

Medical Doctor Weng Tojirakarn, one of the recently released UDD co-leaders, announced that he would join the mass gathering on Saturday and speak on stage to share his experience in prison.

-- NNT 2011-03-03

OOPS Someone responsible for the deaths?? look no further

[Macmundi]

Shouldn't have let them out. Troubled times repeating itself again...

[Asa]

Why can't you people leave them walk their rally, voice their concerns. Calling them names, and sarcasm won't make you wiser nor better than the reds. Again and again you are boring me.

[tlansford]

Why can't you people leave them walk their rally, voice their concerns. Calling them names, and sarcasm won't make you wiser nor better than the reds. Again and again you are boring me.

Thank you. Nice to see at least one reasonable person on the forum.

[Buchholz]

Why can't you people leave them walk their rally, voice their concerns. Calling them names, and sarcasm won't make you wiser nor better than the reds. Again and again you are boring me.

Perhaps if they can go 12 months without instigating violence that results in loss of life, property damage, and/or perpetuating a national calamity, they'll be left alone.

If you're bored with their threads and/or the content therein, please remember that you are under no legal requirement to read and/or reply to them.

[jayboy]

Why can't you people leave them walk their rally, voice their concerns. Calling them names, and sarcasm won't make you wiser nor better than the reds. Again and again you are boring me.

Perhaps if they can go 12 months without instigating violence that results in loss of life, property damage, and/or perpetuating a national calamity, they'll be left alone.

If you're bored with their threads and/or the content therein, please remember that you are under no legal requirement to read and/or reply to them.

Asa is quite correct.It's not the political sentiment that's boring.It's the anal retentiveness and lack of intelligence that's so dispiriting - just look at the posts on this thread for example.It's perfectly possible to have a robust, well informed and intelligent champion of the "elite" (Remember Plus).But the insipid boring one dimensional anti Red bashing is so pointless.It's just preaching to the converted anyway.The shame of it is that there's a worth while discussion to be had.

[Insight]

Why can't you people leave them walk their rally, voice their concerns. Calling them names, and sarcasm won't make you wiser nor better than the reds. Again and again you are boring me.

Perhaps if they can go 12 months without instigating violence that results in loss of life, property damage, and/or perpetuating a national calamity, they'll be left alone.

If you're bored with their threads and/or the content therein, please remember that you are under no legal requirement to read and/or reply to them.

Asa is quite correct.It's not the political sentiment that's boring.It's the anal retentiveness and lack of intelligence that's so dispiriting - just look at the posts on this thread for example.It's perfectly possible to have a robust, well informed and intelligent champion of the "elite" (Remember Plus).But the insipid boring one dimensional anti Red bashing is so pointless.It's just preaching to the converted anyway.The shame of it is that there's a worth while discussion to be had.

We've got every right to be cynical, Jayboy. Even if all the other red shirts were bailed and the investigation into the death of the Japanese cameraman was handled by an independent organisation, would the red shirts still be rallying? Most likely...

[Buchholz]

Why can't you people leave them walk their rally, voice their concerns. Calling them names, and sarcasm won't make you wiser nor better than the reds. Again and again you are boring me.

Perhaps if they can go 12 months without instigating violence that results in loss of life, property damage, and/or perpetuating a national calamity, they'll be left alone.

If you're bored with their threads and/or the content therein, please remember that you are under no legal requirement to read and/or reply to them.

Asa is quite correct.It's not the political sentiment that's boring.It's the anal retentiveness and lack of intelligence that's so dispiriting - just look at the posts on this thread for example.It's perfectly possible to have a robust, well informed and intelligent champion of the "elite" (Remember Plus).But the insipid boring one dimensional anti Red bashing is so pointless.It's just preaching to the converted anyway.The shame of it is that there's a worth while discussion to be had.

And as soon as the Red Shirts denounce and disassociate themselves from Thaksin and clean out their ranks of the Red Shirt Bombers, Shooters, etc. and do something positive that doesn't involve absolving those Red elites and mercenaries of their crimes, it'll be a worthwhile time to explore the causes that they supposedly are in favor of but which pale in comparison to their efforts to exonerate wrong-doers.

If the lack of intelligence of those posting support of this organization that has fugitive terrorists and multiple criminals could one day see the organization for what it is and not for what it purports to be, then that would be great.

If the anal retentiveness of those that turn a blind eye to the extensive crimes this so-called movement has inflicted upon this country, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to discuss the plight of the rural poor.

Their insipid boring one dimensional pro-Red rantings is so endlessly pointless.

[jayboy]

And as soon as the Red Shirts denounce and disassociate themselves from Thaksin and clean out their ranks of the Red Shirt Bombers, Shooters, etc. and do something positive that doesn't involve absolving those Red elites and mercenaries of their crimes, it'll be a worthwhile time to explore the causes that they supposedly are in favor of but which pale in comparison to their efforts to exonerate wrong-doers.

If the lack of intelligence of those posting support of this organization that has fugitive terrorists and multiple criminals could one day see the organization for what it is and not for what it purports to be, then that would be great.

If the anal retentiveness of those that turn a blind eye to the extensive crimes this so-called movement has inflicted upon this country, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to discuss the plight of the rural poor.

Their insipid boring one dimensional pro-Red rantings is so endlessly pointless.

A good example of the kind of post I was talking about.Essentially repeats my post but switching around the subject matter (it would be considered smart for a ten year old) - but to what effect or point? Is there meaning, relevance, understanding or even wit in this kind of observation?

Still it's at least worth a smile to be labeled anal retentive by this fellow.

I hope some of the more perceptive members, of whatever political stripe, will at least partly agree with my earlier observations.

[hyperdimension]

We've got every right to be cynical, Jayboy. Even if all the other red shirts were bailed and the investigation into the death of the Japanese cameraman was handled by an independent organisation, would the red shirts still be rallying? Most likely...

They said they won't stop protesting until their leaders were released. The leaders have been released, so they have now come up with some other excuses for protesting.

It doesn't really matter what they are protesting about now, as long as what they scream and shout about smears the Democrat-led government in some way.

It should be obvious by now, especially with recent news, that the goal of every red shirt protest, including the April and May 2010 protest, was to grab power for Pheu Thai and Thaksin. The upcoming protests are no different - they are part of Pheu Thai's election campaign. These protests are not about democracy. The people of Thailand need to realize this, and ask themselves whether they want their country to be run by a bunch of criminals, terrorists and fools like Jatuporn who are so desperate to take power.

Edited March 3, 2011 by hyperdimension

[Buchholz]

And as soon as the Red Shirts denounce and disassociate themselves from Thaksin and clean out their ranks of the Red Shirt Bombers, Shooters, etc. and do something positive that doesn't involve absolving those Red elites and mercenaries of their crimes, it'll be a worthwhile time to explore the causes that they supposedly are in favor of but which pale in comparison to their efforts to exonerate wrong-doers.

If the lack of intelligence of those posting support of this organization that has fugitive terrorists and multiple criminals could one day see the organization for what it is and not for what it purports to be, then that would be great.

If the anal retentiveness of those that turn a blind eye to the extensive crimes this so-called movement has inflicted upon this country, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to discuss the plight of the rural poor.

Their insipid boring one dimensional pro-Red rantings is so endlessly pointless.

A good example of the kind of post I was talking about.Essentially repeats my post but switching around the subject matter (it would be considered smart for a ten year old) - but to what effect or point? Is there meaning, relevance, understanding or even wit in this kind of observation?

Still it's at least worth a smile to be labeled anal retentive by this fellow.

I hope some of the more perceptive members, of whatever political stripe, will at least partly agree with my earlier observations.

At least you infer agreement with my entire first paragraph by not addressing it.

As for the remainder, it was simply done to show how over-personalizing antagonistic and inflammatory your posts are, although many in the forum are already well familiar with that feature of your presence. The mods certainly are what with the amount of work you create for them in editing or deleting your flames.

Most members on any side of any issue on any topic would likely also recognize my earlier response was probably the better plan in that if any member in any forum or sub-forum finds the material in that forum is boring, then perhaps its best to skip over the threads.

I, for example, don't make posts in the Organic Farming Forum that discussion of potatoes is boring. (presuming it's an often-discussed topic over there).

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Edited March 3, 2011 by Buchholz

[jayboy]

As for the remainder, it was simply done to show how over-personalizing antagonistic and inflammatory your posts are, although many in the forum are already well familiar with that feature of your presence. The mods certainly are what with the amount of work you create for them in editing or deleting your flames.

Most members on any side of any issue on any topic would likely also recognize my earlier response was probably the better plan in that if any member in any forum or sub-forum finds the material in that forum is boring, then perhaps its best to skip over the threads.

You seem to have overlooked I was arguing for a rational and intelligent discussion.

Probably best not for you of all people to start invoking the mods by the way.

[Buchholz]

As for the remainder, it was simply done to show how over-personalizing antagonistic and inflammatory your posts are, although many in the forum are already well familiar with that feature of your presence. The mods certainly are what with the amount of work you create for them in editing or deleting your flames.

Most members on any side of any issue on any topic would likely also recognize my earlier response was probably the better plan in that if any member in any forum or sub-forum finds the material in that forum is boring, then perhaps its best to skip over the threads.

You seem to have overlooked I was arguing for a rational and intelligent discussion.

Probably best not for you of all people to start invoking the mods by the way.

You're probably right, the only time I have difficulties with them is after lowering myself and responding to your baiting.

[jayboy]

You're probably right, the only time I have difficulties with them is after lowering myself and responding to your baiting.

Well perhaps we all should cut out the dramatics, and concentrate on an intelligent well informed give and take discussion.Most people would welcome that.

[rubl]

The acting chairperson stated that everyone arrested on political charges or held without clear evidence must be given justice and granted bail. She also stressed that there must be someone responsible for the people injured and died in the UDD protest last summer.

Sure someone is responsable. Might she start close at home with asking her husband Dr. weng and his bunch of innocent, peaceful UDD leaders ?

(edit: add: first time in many months I see 'UDD protest last summer')

(add: I hear the national hymn outside, must be 6PM, also thunder, rain coming soon I guess)

Edited March 3, 2011 by rubl