Pheu Thai Picks A More Auspicious Date - Apr 23 - To Reveal Its Policies

[webfact]

Pheu Thai picks a more auspicious date - Apr 23 - to reveal its policies

By The Nation

The Pheu Thai Party may announce its election platform and tentative candidates on April 23 - instead of the original date of April 24, Pheu Thai spokesman Prompong Nopparit said yesterday.

Prompong denied the change in schedule was related to a superstitious belief that April 24 is a "doomsday" and would not be auspicious for the party to officially commence its election campaign on that day.

A party source recounted that former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, the de facto leader of the Pheu Thai, planned to announce election campaign policies and party candidates on April 24.

However, the party's team working on the election had disagreed, and told Thaksin that April 24 was considered to be a 'doomsday'. The team asked Thaksin to consider announcing the platform and candidates on April 23 instead, or any day from April 25 to 27.

The source said it was highly possible the party would pick April 23 as that corresponded with Thaksin being the country's 23rd prime minister.

Thaksin became Thailand's 23rd PM when he led the Thai Rak Thai Party a decade ago. At that time, Snoh Thienthong agreed to join Thai Rak Thai on April 1. The source said this time, Snoh, now Pracharaj Party leader, agreed to join Pheu Thai on April 1 so that 23 would be an auspicious number for the party to announce its policies and candidates.

Prompong said Pheu Thai had booked the hall at Thammasat University's Rangsit campus for the entire week, from April 23 to 27.

The party expected its poll campaign banners to be ready on April 23 so it would reveal its candidates right away that day.

But if the banners could not be completed in time, the announcement of party policies and election candidates would be postponed till April 27. "The postponement has nothing to do with luck or superstition," the spokesman said.

In another development, a source close to Pheu Thai chairman Chavalit Yongchaiyudh said Chavalit wanted to leave Pheu Thai but he was asked by Thaksin to stay on.

According to an aide of Chavalit, he was asked by a certain security agency to leave Pheu Thai after the red shirts strongly attacked the monarchy during its demonstrations.

Chavalit was told red-shirt leaders mentioned the Royal Family in a way that could be deemed lese majesty during a recent political concert at the Bonanza Resort near Khao Yai National Park in Nakhon Ratchasima.

Chavalit informed the party's strategic committee of his wish to resign so the committee told Thaksin, who in turn asked Chavalit to stay on. Thaksin allegedly promised Chavalit he would ensure red-shirt leaders would be more careful when speaking at rallies in the future.

-- The Nation 2011-04-11

[Buchholz]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Also, after Chalerm's departure... now comes Chavalit for reasons even he can't tolerate?

[Thaddeus]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

I suppose it's a step up from reading tea leaves.

(if only they could shake off the rhyming slang meaning)

[siampolee]

I have been told that the Pheu Thai Party are adopting that great Nat King Cole Classic rendering of, ''That Old Black Magic,'' as their new campaign tune for the upcoming election.

[webfact]

Thaksin met core members of Shinawatra clan in Dubai recently & agreed his sister Yingluck's best PM candidate: Matichon

/via@tulsathit

[animatic]

Yes, denial of this being superstition in the same paragraph describing the superstition real shows this Face of PTP to be the idiot he has long appeared. Can't the find a spokesman who actually can come up with coherent non-contradictory thoughts to say?

Chavalit, said he is unhappy with being corralled next to probable Lese Majesty offenders, and asks to resign, well this must of been a REALLY big payment from Thaksin to keep him in line. Asks to resign.... sounds like Yongyuth Wichaidit. I quit he annouces and Thaksin says no! So he doesn't.

What dirt Thaksin must have on these people I have no clue, but all this bow and scrap obedience can't solely come down to cash in their pockets, can it?

So he wants Yingluck and the clan rallies round. I guess Abhisit is so pretty they need a pretty face, with at least some business sense, if the expect to replace Abhisit and Korn. Still she has only limited back room political experience, and seemingly has been mostly dragged into the family enterprise kicking and screaming. Well, she is the only one left with brains and no ban.

[thequietman]

baseing the future of thailand and the thai people on the turn of a tarot card.

lol .

[webfact]

Pheu Thai Party Deputy Leader: No Confirmation on Yingluck's Position in Party List

The deputy leader of the Pheu Thai Party says there has been no confirmation that the younger sister of self-exiled former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra will lead its party list.

Meanwhile, the Chart Pattana Pheu Paen Din Party has announced that two former athletes will be the latest additions to its MP list.

Deputy leader of the Pheu Thai Party, Plodprasop Surasvadi said it has not been confirmed that the younger sister of the ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, Yingluck, will lead its party list in the upcoming general election to become the candidate for Prime Minister .

He noted the list of MPs will be announced once the House is dissolved.

However, Plodprasop observed that Yingluck has what it takes to top the party list, considering she is a competent woman whose experience in overseeing large corporations of the Shinwatra family is formidable.

He added that she is also respectful of those more senior than her.

The deputy party leader said that if the prediction by a prophet that the next prime minister would be a woman were true, it is probably going to be Yingluck.

Meanwhile, former world number nine tennis ace Paradorn Srichaphan and 2004 Olympic bronze medalist for tae kwon-do Yaowapha Burapolchai announced their venture into politics yesterday as members of the Chart Pattana Pheu Paen Din Party.

The official press conference was held this morning at the Intercontinental Hotel.

-- Tan Network 2011-04-11

[siampolee]

However, Plodprasop observed that Yingluck has what it takes to top the party list, considering she is a competent woman whose experience in overseeing large corporations of the Shinwatra family is formidable.

He added that she is also respectful of those more senior than her.

I think you will find out that in plain English that means that she is easily manipulated and has a wonderful brown nose along with the most elegant groveling pose.

She will of course safeguard the family investment too.

[Oberkommando]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Indeed, we currently have a Prime Minister that wears amulets for luck and protection and a cabinet that regularly consults fortune tellers about possible future events.

[SomTumTiger]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Indeed, we currently have a Prime Minister that wears amulets for luck and protection and a cabinet that regularly consults fortune tellers about possible future events.

And your guy Thaksin? ROFL

[Oberkommando]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Indeed, we currently have a Prime Minister that wears amulets for luck and protection and a cabinet that regularly consults fortune tellers about possible future events.

And your guy Thaksin? ROFL

Who's guy?

I was one of Thaksin's biggest detractors on here while he was PM but I stop short of being obsessed with the man in favour of a more balanced and informed viewpoint.

[SomTumTiger]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Indeed, we currently have a Prime Minister that wears amulets for luck and protection and a cabinet that regularly consults fortune tellers about possible future events.

And your guy Thaksin? ROFL

Who's guy?

I was one of Thaksin's biggest detractors on here while he was PM but I stop short of being obsessed with the man in favour of a more balanced and informed viewpoint.

As you say

[Oberkommando]

As you say

I don't know why, but you seem to have an issue with me for pointing out the fact that our current PM wears and has a collection of protective amulets and that the Democrat cabinet is extremely superstitious in it's own right, consulting fortune tellers and other such hokum.

Abhisit's most collectible amulet is this one.

http://www.thai-amulets.com/m16.html

I wonder if it has special powers to help him win his first general election, it didn't seem to work very well before... :jap:

[whybother]

I don't know why, but you seem to have an issue with me for pointing out the fact that our current PM wears and has a collection of protective amulets and that the Democrat cabinet is extremely superstitious in it's own right, consulting fortune tellers and other such hokum.

Abhisit's most collectible amulet is this one.

http://www.thai-amulets.com/m16.html

I wonder if it has special powers to help him win his first general election, it didn't seem to work very well before... :jap:

It seems that Abhisit's amulet collection is not all about superstition

Abhisit reportedly had been given several outstanding examples, so his collection could be worth an eight-digit figure.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2009/12/13/politics/PM-protected-by-amulet-shield-30118407.html

[animatic]

Best quote of this one

He added that she is also respectful of those more senior than her.

Ie she will do as she's told and listen to big brother and other elder statesmen,

but mostly big brother.

That truly makes her stewardship of the nation a hand up heinie exercise.

When Thaksin coughs her eyes will roll.

Too sad for a competent woman to be treated so basely.

Especially by her own kin.

[animatic]

I don't know why, but you seem to have an issue with me for pointing out the fact that our current PM wears and has a collection of protective amulets and that the Democrat cabinet is extremely superstitious in it's own right, consulting fortune tellers and other such hokum.

Abhisit's most collectible amulet is this one.

http://www.thai-amulets.com/m16.html

I wonder if it has special powers to help him win his first general election, it didn't seem to work very well before... :jap:

It seems that Abhisit's amulet collection is not all about superstition

Abhisit reportedly had been given several outstanding examples, so his collection could be worth an eight-digit figure.

http://www.nationmul...d-30118407.html

I gave my sister an amulet as a piece of art to commemorate her coming to my wedding here. She adores it, but doesn't see it as a ruler of her life.

I really, really, REALLY doubt Abhisit is in any way letting his collection of amulets rule his decision making. It is obvious that many politicians pay lip-service to the superstitions of their electorate too. Especially during election years. They kiss other peoples babies too if they get a vote.

Edited April 11, 2011 by animatic

[rubl]

I don't know why, but you seem to have an issue with me for pointing out the fact that our current PM wears and has a collection of protective amulets and that the Democrat cabinet is extremely superstitious in it's own right, consulting fortune tellers and other such hokum.

Abhisit's most collectible amulet is this one.

http://www.thai-amulets.com/m16.html

I wonder if it has special powers to help him win his first general election, it didn't seem to work very well before... :jap:

In your own words "Maybe I expect too much of people that make decisions on behalf of millions of others." May apply to any PM, MP, CEO worldwide though. ( )

[siampolee]

Seem to recall a comment from George Witless Bush concerning the fact that the war in Iraq was some sort of Christian duty much the same guff from Tony Bliar too.

Amulets no doubt fall into the same sort of category as the above urban myth concerning religions.and weird beliefs.

[Pi Sek]

I don't know why, but you seem to have an issue with me for pointing out the fact that our current PM wears and has a collection of protective amulets and that the Democrat cabinet is extremely superstitious in it's own right, consulting fortune tellers and other such hokum.

Abhisit's most collectible amulet is this one.

http://www.thai-amulets.com/m16.html

I wonder if it has special powers to help him win his first general election, it didn't seem to work very well before... :jap:

I gave my sister an amulet as a piece of art to commemorate her coming to my wedding here. She adores it, but doesn't see it as a ruler of her life.

I really, really, REALLY doubt Abhisit is in any way letting his collection of amulets rule his decision making. It is obvious that many politicians pay lip-service to the superstitions of their electorate too. Especially during election years. They kiss other peoples babies too if they get a vote.

Indeed, I have one around my neck and several more at home right now. But no matter how much I believe in Phra Somdet, Jatukhram Ramathep, Luang Phor Sothon or whoever else, I don't rely on their help or input in any decisions I make - other than the fact that I have a religious artifact around my neck should prompt me to behave accordingly. Someone really cynical might suggest Abhisit only wears them (I don't know if he wears them or just keeps a collection) to show an ethical front while stabbing people in the back. I wouldn't subscribe to this, but you could apply that to any number of people on all sides.

However, I agree that expensive Feng Shui gardening, consultation of fortune tellers, etc, should stay outside politics. But there are more important things to address. Still, you can't say it's only on one side...

2007

In a bid to steer out of the misfortune plaguing her family, ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra's wife Khunying Pojaman yesterday consulted a renowned fortune-teller in Chiang Mai.

2008

Senior members of Thailand’s ruling junta, the Council for National Security (CNS), have been visiting a renowned fortune-teller in the Thai province of Chiang Mai to ward off bad luck.

2008

Mr Thaksin blamed the alignment of planets for current economic and political woes. "Be patient until July 2. When Mars leaves, the situation will improve," he said.

[animatic]

I will grant you that Feng Shui gardening was ridiculous around the government buildings, but do think the order and logic of Feng Shui can make for pleasant and productive environments. Certainly much more useful the fortunetellers or propitious numbered days.

I gave my sister a Jatukhram Ramathep from Nakor Si Thamarrat. for the record.

[Oberkommando]

If Abhisit doesn't believe in such hokum as some members contest, it is interesting as to why he feels the need to borrow certain amulets from fellow politicians in times of crisis or during difficult periods of his political career.

Still, you can't say it's only on one side...

Thanks, that was exactly my point, much to the chagrin of certain posters apparently.

[Pi Sek]

If Abhisit doesn't believe in such hokum as some members contest, it is interesting as to why he feels the need to borrow certain amulets from fellow politicians in times of crisis or during difficult periods of his political career.

And that was my point - just because one believes in the powers of an amulet, it doesn't mean that one will use that amulet or any other religious/superstitious objects in their decision-making process. The amulets are worn to bring luck - which we all need.

Still, you can't say it's only on one side...

Thanks, that was exactly my point, much to the chagrin of certain posters apparently.

Yes, I noticed that you say you were a Thaksin detractor when he was PM. As far as I can see, you have become disillusioned with pretty-much all things Thai, not without reason I wold have to assume. Personally, I believe in cause & effect... out of interest, what was the cause?

[animatic]

If Abhisit doesn't believe in such hokum as some members contest, it is interesting as to why he feels the need to borrow certain amulets from fellow politicians in times of crisis or during difficult periods of his political career.

Still, you can't say it's only on one side...

Thanks, that was exactly my point, much to the chagrin of certain posters apparently.

Because it makes those he borrows them from feel better

and creates yet another link between them in the classical Chinese /Thai favors for favors traditions. And to refuse a proffered loan amulet might well be considered an insult to the giver.

Edited April 11, 2011 by animatic

[bangon04]

Announcing actual policies, with or without an auspicious date, will surely detract from the real business of Thai politics. A distraction for all concerned......

[bangkokeddy]

[Buchholz]

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Indeed, we currently have a Prime Minister that wears amulets for luck and protection and a cabinet that regularly consults fortune tellers about possible future events.

And your guy Thaksin? ROFL

Who's guy?

I was one of Thaksin's biggest detractors on here while he was PM

But you joined the forum two and half years after his departure as PM...

Edited April 11, 2011 by Buchholz

[Foggy Bottom]

Who's guy?

I was one of Thaksin's biggest detractors on here while he was PM

But you joined the forum two and half years after his departure as PM...

Stonkin' observation

[animatic]

'Buchholz' timestamp='1302481664'

A political platform based upon numerology.

Wonderful.

Indeed, we currently have a Prime Minister that wears amulets for luck and protection and a cabinet that regularly consults fortune tellers about possible future events.

And your guy Thaksin? ROFL

Who's guy?

I was one of Thaksin's biggest detractors on here while he was PM

But you joined the forum two and half years after his departure as PM...

Hhhhmmm a sticky technical issue.

Maybe it was in a previous life. Who were you then?

[rubl]

Who's guy?

I was one of Thaksin's biggest detractors on here while he was PM

But you joined the forum two and half years after his departure as PM...

Hhhhmmm a sticky technical issue.

Maybe it was in a previous life. Who were you then?

Interesting discussion. I think I'm about the only one currently active in the political topics of this forum who can make it very likely to still be in his initial incarnation here at ThaiVisa. Not that it really matters one single iota