DSI Wants Red-Shirt Leaders Back In Jail For Violating Bail Conditions

[phiphidon]

ppd --- what makes you think that any of the first 3 quotes about the LM laws contradict each other?

additionally, what makes you think that the "Insight News" opinion piece is independent?

Did I say that "any of the first 3 quotes about the LM laws contradict each other"? I was laying out a history, a sequence of events of Abhisits attitude to Article 112. You can read into it what you will. Personally I think it shows that Abhisit is not one to be trusted, but then you already know that. Is independance a difficult concept? To me it reflects an individual opinion as opposed to that which is peddled in the usual news sources, especially the ones we are allowed to quote. It doesn't make it less relevant because you don't happen to agree with it.

[rubl]

This is getting ridiculous. Remember Abhisit telling people not to use the lese majeste law for political gain, well you can throw that out of the window.

From the 26th April 2009 to May 2nd 2011 many things have happened which can explain the shift. I'm not saying it justifies the shift, but it does explain the shift.

Note that to put emphasize on the LM law and it's alleged misuse also tends to shift attention from other laws and the use of them.

As for remembering, how many times did k. Thaksin say he'd stay away from politics, how many times 'I don't know red-shirts', how many times did he sue people for billions of Baht because they said or wrote something he didn't like?

How about sharing part of the blame, or is that too close for comfort

[Maestro]

A troll post and the replies to it have been deleted.

[whybother]

This is getting ridiculous. Remember Abhisit telling people not to use the lese majeste law for political gain, well you can throw that out of the window.

Abhisits history with Lese Majeste;

From an interview with the Financial Times on the 23rd April 2009 and commented on by the Bangkok Pundit on the 26th April 2009

<quote snipped>

This was closely followed by;

<quote snipped>

and then in 2011 we have a different viewpoint from Abhisit, nothing to do with upcoming elections of course;

<quote snipped>

and an independant viewpoint of what is actually happening;

<quote snipped>

Did I say that "any of the first 3 quotes about the LM laws contradict each other"? I was laying out a history, a sequence of events of Abhisits attitude to Article 112. You can read into it what you will. Personally I think it shows that Abhisit is not one to be trusted, but then you already know that. Is independance a difficult concept? To me it reflects an individual opinion as opposed to that which is peddled in the usual news sources, especially the ones we are allowed to quote. It doesn't make it less relevant because you don't happen to agree with it.

When you say "and then we have a different viewpoint" aren't you saying that this quote is contradicting the first two quotes?

The "independent" article is also quite funny.

The number of lese majeste cases brought by authorities has increased from just three cases a year in the 1980s, to over 160 in 2009.

Under this government, thousands of websites have been blocked.

I don't understand why they didn't block so many websites in the 1980s?

Most charges these days relate to articles and postings on the internet and also amateur video recordings of various speeches. Not a lot of that happened in the 1980s.

[Buchholz]

Regarding k. Jatuporn:

The Pheu Thai heavyweight

Was this meant literally or is it just figure of speech

Perhaps in his promise not to flee is the secret desire to duplicate the dramatic and very healthy benefits that his fellow Red Shirt Leader Natthawut enjoyed from his stay at the Bangkok Remand Prison and Obesity Reduction Center

Before:

After:

Does your extremely repetitive highlighting of the weight loss incurred whilst being banged up in a Thai jail suggest a kind of latent admiration for the feat? Could do with losing a few pounds ourselves, could we?

Nope.

[Buchholz]

Does your extremely repetitive highlighting of the weight loss incurred whilst being banged up in a Thai jail suggest a kind of latent admiration for the feat? Could do with losing a few pounds ourselves, could we?

More personal attacks .... why?

If asking someone whether they need to lose a few pounds is a personal attack then I'm Ghengis Freakin Khan. Guilty.

What I'd like to know is why it is acceptable to launch multiple personal attacks on any individual who is in no position to answer back (in this case making jokes about their weight loss during events anyone would find very stressful), but it is unacceptable to do so with someone who is well able to either defend themselves/reply or ignore the comment as they see fit.

The reasoning is so basic and simple to understand, it's been placed first.

In using Thai Visa I agree:

1) To respect fellow members.

Says nothing about not ridiculing criminal suspects incarcerated in the adjudication process.

A reiview of nearly every thread involving thousands of criminals would review similar, and very often much, much more strongly worded posts, than I.

Many examples of which may be found in the Veera in Cambodian jail thread.

I didn't see any of your posts ridiculing posters in that thread that said he should be subjected to male rape.

.

Edited May 21, 2011 by Buchholz

[phiphidon]

This is getting ridiculous. Remember Abhisit telling people not to use the lese majeste law for political gain, well you can throw that out of the window.

Abhisits history with Lese Majeste;

From an interview with the Financial Times on the 23rd April 2009 and commented on by the Bangkok Pundit on the 26th April 2009

<quote snipped>

This was closely followed by;

<quote snipped>

and then in 2011 we have a different viewpoint from Abhisit, nothing to do with upcoming elections of course;

<quote snipped>

and an independant viewpoint of what is actually happening;

<quote snipped>

Did I say that "any of the first 3 quotes about the LM laws contradict each other"? I was laying out a history, a sequence of events of Abhisits attitude to Article 112. You can read into it what you will. Personally I think it shows that Abhisit is not one to be trusted, but then you already know that. Is independance a difficult concept? To me it reflects an individual opinion as opposed to that which is peddled in the usual news sources, especially the ones we are allowed to quote. It doesn't make it less relevant because you don't happen to agree with it.

When you say "and then we have a different viewpoint" aren't you saying that this quote is contradicting the first two quotes?

The "independent" article is also quite funny.

The number of lese majeste cases brought by authorities has increased from just three cases a year in the 1980s, to over 160 in 2009.

Under this government, thousands of websites have been blocked.

I don't understand why they didn't block so many websites in the 1980s?

Most charges these days relate to articles and postings on the internet and also amateur video recordings of various speeches. Not a lot of that happened in the 1980s.

No,as I said it's a timeline showing how Abhisit reacted (and reacts) to the use of the LM laws from 2009 to the present day. In February 2009, He recognises there is a problem with the way the law is being used.

In March 2009 he declares that you can't get rid of the law but there is still a problem with the application of it. Fast forward to 2011 and there is still a problem with the application of the LM law.

The irony is, during this period of Abhisits tenure the amount of LM cases have shot up having been filed by either the police or the army, his government is still hounding Pratachai (read Bangkok Pundit post),

plus the harassment of a leading critic of the LM law, Somsak Jiamteerasakul, http://www.nationmul...--30153798.html

http://www.nationmul...e-30155141.html

Despite Abhisit declaring that that people should not use LM as a political tool, it is being used to silence certain people who are perceived to oppose the government.

As for the independance of the author of the final quote, he is a reporter for the Bangkok Post.

[whybother]

No,as I said it's a timeline showing how Abhisit reacted (and reacts) to the use of the LM laws from 2009 to the present day. In February 2009, He recognises there is a problem with the way the law is being used.

In March 2009 he declares that you can't get rid of the law but there is still a problem with the application of it. Fast forward to 2011 and there is still a problem with the application of the LM law.

The irony is, during this period of Abhisits tenure the amount of LM cases have shot up having been filed by either the police or the army, his government is still hounding Pratachai (read Bangkok Pundit post),

plus the harassment of a leading critic of the LM law, Somsak Jiamteerasakul, http://www.nationmul...--30153798.html

http://www.nationmul...e-30155141.html

Despite Abhisit declaring that that people should not use LM as a political tool, it is being used to silence certain people who are perceived to oppose the government.

As for the independance of the author of the final quote, he is a reporter for the Bangkok Post.

Don't you think that one of the reasons that there is more LM charges now, is because more is being said? The PTP and red shirts are anti-"elite", and they are saying a lot more anti-"elite" things ... with all that that entails.

I don't agree with the LM laws, but they are there, and the current opposition are breaking them. That has nothing to do with Abhisit.

Do you think it is possible for any political party to remove or even water down LM laws?

Being a reporter for the Bangkok Post does not make one independent. But besides that, the article had a lot of holes in it, whether it was independent or not.

Edited May 21, 2011 by whybother

[phiphidon]

No,as I said it's a timeline showing how Abhisit reacted (and reacts) to the use of the LM laws from 2009 to the present day. In February 2009, He recognises there is a problem with the way the law is being used.

In March 2009 he declares that you can't get rid of the law but there is still a problem with the application of it. Fast forward to 2011 and there is still a problem with the application of the LM law.

The irony is, during this period of Abhisits tenure the amount of LM cases have shot up having been filed by either the police or the army, his government is still hounding Pratachai (read Bangkok Pundit post),

plus the harassment of a leading critic of the LM law, Somsak Jiamteerasakul, http://www.nationmul...--30153798.html

http://www.nationmul...e-30155141.html

Despite Abhisit declaring that that people should not use LM as a political tool, it is being used to silence certain people who are perceived to oppose the government.

As for the independance of the author of the final quote, he is a reporter for the Bangkok Post.

Don't you think that one of the reasons that there is more LM charges now, is because more is being said? The PTP and red shirts are anti-"elite", and they are saying a lot more anti-"elite" things ... with all that that entails.

I don't agree with the LM laws, but they are there, and the current opposition are breaking them. That has nothing to do with Abhisit.

Do you think it is possible for any political party to remove or even water down LM laws?

Being a reporter for the Bangkok Post does not make one independent. But besides that, the article had a lot of holes in it, whether it was independent or not.

Do you know what was being said? No, well that is a major loophole right there that plays into the hands of unscrupulous people, many of which have big stakes in keeping the status quo.

Is more being said, well possibly because people are more politically aware nowadays - ally that with powerful interests that are rooted in the past and you are going to get clashes which are too easily stepped upon by wilful use of LM and, just as important, the computer crimes act.

Personally I don't think that the opposition are breaking the laws, I just think that they are sailing close to the wind and stupidly setting themselves up for over zealous people like tharit and prayuth. Or perhaps it isn't so stupid - if 20 or so UDD leaders are imprisoned under Article 113 and/or the computer crimes act it makes a heck of a statement, especially if Tharit finally digs out his powerpoint representation of the "plot against the monarchy" and starts slapping writs all around the place.

Can a political party remove or water down the LM laws, of course they can, if they have the will and the privy councillors and the army don't step in. Surely all that is needed is a change to the constitution, it's not as if this has not happened before. Or perhaps the next government, whoever it is, will discuss Somsaks viewpoint on LM as opposed to threatening him with it.

[jdinasia]

ppd --- what makes you think that any of the first 3 quotes about the LM laws contradict each other?

additionally, what makes you think that the "Insight News" opinion piece is independent?

Did I say that "any of the first 3 quotes about the LM laws contradict each other"? I was laying out a history, a sequence of events of Abhisits attitude to Article 112. You can read into it what you will. Personally I think it shows that Abhisit is not one to be trusted, but then you already know that. Is independance a difficult concept? To me it reflects an individual opinion as opposed to that which is peddled in the usual news sources, especially the ones we are allowed to quote. It doesn't make it less relevant because you don't happen to agree with it.

So basically ... you don't trust Abhisit because while he says that the law needs review, and change he also says that it can't be dropped as a law and that political parties should keep the monarchy out of politics.

The opinion piece is just that .. a one-sided article that only has the weight that should be attributed to it because of who wrote it/ where it appeared. Care to tell us more about who wrote it, what the editorial policy is of this "independent source of news" and who finances that source?

In many instances we DO know what was being said in the LM cases that are current. Those of us with a television that live in Thailand certainly had the opportunity to watch Jatuporn and Nisit on stage. (BTW -- I fully expect Jatuporn to be found Guilty, I think there is a high probablility that Nisit will as well. I do not think the others will be found guilty of LM for sharing the stage with J&N. They probably did in this instance violate their bail conditions but not the LM laws. If you have read Prachathai you know what comments were being made (and how long they were allowed to remain) ... etc If you have read the Red rags you know what was being said. What I don't know is how much more often there are actually new LM cases being presented to the courts. I do NOT like nor agree with the idea of a lack of full disclosure on the numbers of cases being so difficult to determine.

Those wanting to compare 30 years ago to today in the number of cases --- are missing the plot on 2 points ... The first being we don't know the facts about the sheer numbers ... and far more important is that 30 years ago there really wasn't access to new media AND no paper or radio station would allow any form of LM content.

[Buchholz]

19 UDD leaders summoned to hear lèse majesté charges on June 2

BANGKOK, 20 May 2011 (NNT) – The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) has summoned 19 core leaders of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) to hear their charges related to lèse majesté on 2 June.

DSI Director-General Tharit Pengdit revealed that the department was preparing to issue summonses for a total of 19 UDD core leaders, obligating them to acknowledge their lèse majesté charges on June 2 at 9.00 hrs.

The date was previously set for May 2-3, but was postponed by the prosecutor due to the need to examine additional evidence, including transcriptions of the suspects’ speeches deemed insulting to the monarchy.

Initially, there were 18 UDD core leaders facing the charges, such as Mr Jatuporn Prompan, Mr Nattawut Saikua, MD Weng Tojirakarn, Mr Veerakarn Musikapong, Mr Yoswaris Chuklom, Mr Korkaew Pikulthong, Mr Nisit Sinthuprai, Mr Wiphuthalaeng Pattanaphumthai, Mr Kwanchai Praipana and Ms Thida Thawornset.

One more suspect was recently added to the list which is Mr Payap Panket.

-- NNT 2011-05-20

[Buchholz]

One more suspect was recently added to the list which is Mr Payap Panket.

Good to see they didn't leave off the Chula Hospital Raiding Thug Gang Leader.

[Buchholz]

DSI to summon 19 UDD members to acknowledge lese majeste charges June 2

BANGKOK, May 20 -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) will call in 19 members of the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the Red Shirt movement, for lese majeste charges as the court rejected latest bail bid by detained UDD co-leader Jatuporn Prompan.

DSI Director-General Tharit Pengdit told reporters that on Monday, DSI would summon 19 leading UDD members to hear lese majeste charges on June 2.

They comprise both leaders and supporting figures, whose speeches and actions at the April 10 rally were considered lese majeste and inciting others to disobey the law.

Being charged are Thida Thavornseth,

- remaining list snipped -

The ban on international travel has been a usual condition for bail... but maybe you can get an exemption for an important reason.... like going to see Robert A.

[Buchholz]

Thida to sue DSI for 'false' charges

Chairwoman of the red-shirt movement, Thida Thawornseth, has authorised Robert Amsterdam, the lawyer of former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, to file a lawsuit against the Department of Special Investigation for making false lese majeste allegations.

Thida said yesterday that she met with Amsterdam in Hong Kong on Thursday to discuss the legal cases against red-shirt leaders.

She said Amsterdam had told her not to worry because the government would be held responsible for last year's violence.

She quoted him as also saying that the lese majeste charges were groundless and that the DSI summoning the 19 red-shirt leaders to hear their charges officially next Thursday could be seen as political persecution during an election period.

-- The Nation 2011-05-28

[rubl]

She quoted him as also saying that the lese majeste charges were groundless and that the DSI summoning the 19 red-shirt leaders to hear their charges officially next Thursday could be seen as political persecution during an election period.

This fits nicely with k. Chalerm's remark

"""Senior Pheu Thai Party member Chalerm Yoobamrung said yesterday that if Pheu Thai wins, it will not exact revenge against all parties, except Abhisit and Suthep Thaugsuban who he believed were responsible for the deaths of 92 people in April and May last year."""

[phiphidon]

DSI to summon 19 UDD members to acknowledge lese majeste charges June 2

BANGKOK, May 20 -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) will call in 19 members of the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the Red Shirt movement, for lese majeste charges as the court rejected latest bail bid by detained UDD co-leader Jatuporn Prompan.

DSI Director-General Tharit Pengdit told reporters that on Monday, DSI would summon 19 leading UDD members to hear lese majeste charges on June 2.

They comprise both leaders and supporting figures, whose speeches and actions at the April 10 rally were considered lese majeste and inciting others to disobey the law.

Being charged are Thida Thavornseth,

- remaining list snipped -

The ban on international travel has been a usual condition for bail... but maybe you can get an exemption for an important reason.... like going to see Robert A.

I wasn't aware that Thida Thavornseth was under bail conditions, unless of course you know better, Buchholz?

[Buchholz]

DSI to summon 19 UDD members to acknowledge lese majeste charges June 2

BANGKOK, May 20 -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) will call in 19 members of the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the Red Shirt movement, for lese majeste charges as the court rejected latest bail bid by detained UDD co-leader Jatuporn Prompan.

DSI Director-General Tharit Pengdit told reporters that on Monday, DSI would summon 19 leading UDD members to hear lese majeste charges on June 2.

They comprise both leaders and supporting figures, whose speeches and actions at the April 10 rally were considered lese majeste and inciting others to disobey the law.

Being charged are Thida Thavornseth,

- remaining list snipped -

The ban on international travel has been a usual condition for bail... but maybe you can get an exemption for an important reason.... like going to see Robert A.

I wasn't aware that Thida Thavornseth was under bail conditions, unless of course you know better, Buchholz?

She's been charged with LM.

Do you think she was released on her own recognizance because of her positional stature as the Interim President of the Red Shirt Movement?

[Buchholz]

She quoted him as also saying that the lese majeste charges were groundless and that the DSI summoning the 19 red-shirt leaders to hear their charges officially next Thursday could be seen as political persecution during an election period.

This fits nicely with k. Chalerm's remark

"""Senior Pheu Thai Party member Chalerm Yoobamrung said yesterday that if Pheu Thai wins, it will not exact revenge against all parties, except Abhisit and Suthep Thaugsuban who he believed were responsible for the deaths of 92 people in April and May last year."""

and which also dove-tails into criminal co-defendant Natthawut's veiled threats:

Edited May 29, 2011 by Buchholz

[rubl]

DSI to summon 19 UDD members to acknowledge lese majeste charges June 2

BANGKOK, May 20 -- The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) will call in 19 members of the anti-government United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the Red Shirt movement, for lese majeste charges as the court rejected latest bail bid by detained UDD co-leader Jatuporn Prompan. ....

The ban on international travel has been a usual condition for bail... but maybe you can get an exemption for an important reason.... like going to see Robert A.

I wasn't aware that Thida Thavornseth was under bail conditions, unless of course you know better, Buchholz?

She's been charged with LM.

Do you think she was released on her own recognizance because of her positional stature as the Interim President of the Red Shirt Movement?

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

[phiphidon]

She's been charged with LM.

Do you think she was released on her own recognizance because of her positional stature as the Interim President of the Red Shirt Movement?

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

What Rubl said, anything else, Buccholz?

[Buchholz]

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

You're probably right.

I certainly wouldn't expect her to openly report going to Hong Kong in the news if she was barred from doing so.

Red Shirts don't make such public statements regarding criminal acts.

.

[Buchholz]

She's been charged with LM.

Do you think she was released on her own recognizance because of her positional stature as the Interim President of the Red Shirt Movement?

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

What Rubl said, anything else, Buccholz?

Yes, it's still Buchholz.

[longway]

She quoted him as also saying that the lese majeste charges were groundless and that the DSI summoning the 19 red-shirt leaders to hear their charges officially next Thursday could be seen as political persecution during an election period.

This fits nicely with k. Chalerm's remark

"""Senior Pheu Thai Party member Chalerm Yoobamrung said yesterday that if Pheu Thai wins, it will not exact revenge against all parties, except Abhisit and Suthep Thaugsuban who he believed were responsible for the deaths of 92 people in April and May last year."""

Blaming Abhisit for the deaths is like an arsonist holding a fireman responsible for the deaths of people the arsonist put in the building and set alight.

Only Abhist and one of the red shirt leaders, I think his name was Veera tried to prevent the events of May 19 from occurring, all the others were hell bent on instigating the confrontation, and of course when the army came they left their followers to fend for themselves, while they bolted to safety.

[rubl]

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

You're probably right.

I certainly wouldn't expect her to openly report going to Hong Kong in the news if she was barred from doing so.

Red Shirts don't make such public statements regarding criminal acts..

With a group of 19 UDD leaders of whom 16 are out on bail, two in jail with bail revoked, it is only human to assume the last one (i.e. Ms. Thida) is also out on bail. One of those things

Edited May 29, 2011 by rubl

[phiphidon]

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

You're probably right.

I certainly wouldn't expect her to openly report going to Hong Kong in the news if she was barred from doing so.

Red Shirts don't make such public statements regarding criminal acts..

With a group of 19 UDD leaders of whom 16 are out on bail, two in jail with bail revoked, it is only human to assume the last one (i.e. Ms. Thida) is also out on bail. One of those things

Well I appreciate, but do not understand, your continuing defence of the baseball player whatever he's called, I don't think it was human error - more a deliberate attempt to find ANY thing wrong with ANY one remotely or directly linked to Thaksin/Red Shirts/UDD/DAAD , basically anyone but the outgoing democrats and their backers. No, I lie, I don't appreciate it. If he states something that is wrong let him be responsible for it. You may decry the tag team remark but it this kind of post that reinforces that belief. Bring back Sriracha John.

[Buchholz]

Ms. Thida and the others are called in for June, 2nd, to hear the charges. This probably means that only at that time the court has to decide on 'accepting the charges', 'bail', 'bail conditions' and 'bail revocation' as applicable. With Ms. Thida not out on bail, or formally charged, she can travel as she likes. IMHO and certainly not being a legal expert

You're probably right.

I certainly wouldn't expect her to openly report going to Hong Kong in the news if she was barred from doing so.

Red Shirts don't make such public statements regarding criminal acts..

With a group of 19 UDD leaders of whom 16 are out on bail, two in jail with bail revoked, it is only human to assume the last one (i.e. Ms. Thida) is also out on bail. One of those things

Well I appreciate, but do not understand, your continuing defence of the baseball player whatever he's called, I don't think it was human error - more a deliberate attempt to find ANY thing wrong with ANY one remotely or directly linked to Thaksin/Red Shirts/UDD/DAAD , basically anyone but the outgoing democrats and their backers. No, I lie, I don't appreciate it. If he states something that is wrong let him be responsible for it. You may decry the tag team remark but it this kind of post that reinforces that belief. Bring back Sriracha John.

More attempted mind-reading?

And what's with slighting a member's nick? Is Buchholz all that difficult for you to grasp? It needn't be as I've corrected you enough times for it to sink in.

As for Thida, she's been charged with LM and without scrutinizing the finer details of each article to elicit which Red Leader is in remand, which was in on conditional release, which was refused bail, which one is awaiting jail, which one is charged with which crime, one needs a whiteboard to keep track of all their shenanigans.

To assign unsaid motivations and top it with personal slights so recklessly detracts from the forum. Might as well have mazeltov brought back.

.

Edited May 30, 2011 by Buchholz

[Buchholz]

19 UDD leaders summoned to hear lèse majesté charges on June 2

BANGKOK, 20 May 2011 (NNT) – The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) has summoned 19 core leaders of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) to hear their charges related to lèse majesté on 2 June.

Police Put Off Red-shirt Leaders' Reporting Date

The special investigation agency has allowed 19 red-shirt leaders to put off their meeting with investigators over lese majeste charges to July 7 given most of them are election candidates still tied up with campaigning.

The decision was made at the meeting between Department of Special Investigation, or DSI, Director-General Tharit Pengdit and investigators responsible for the lese majeste case against 19 red-shirt leaders after they petitioned the agency to postpone their scheduled reporting to acknowledge their charges to July 7.

The DSI chief said the 19 red-shirt elements have pledged they will not flee and will show up on the appointed date.

Tharit said the red-shirt lese majeste suspects are divided into three groups.

The first is a group of ten who are the Pheu Thai Party's constituency and Party-list MP candidates.

The second group is made up of seven individuals who are red-shirt core leaders and Pheu Thai key members and are currently tied up with its electioneering.

The last group is its two core leaders Jatuporn Prompan and Nisit Sinthuprai, who are being held at the Bangkok Remand Prison after the court revoked their bail over terrorism charges.

The DSI chief said Jatuporn also petitioned for postponement of his summons, reasoning that the acknowledgment of his lese majeste charges now could hurt his chance of being elected as a Pheu Thai Party-list MP.

Nisit claimed since he faces the same charges as his associates, he should also be allowed to postpone his reporting to investigators as well.

The DSI has brought lese majeste charges against the 19 red-shirt leaders after they appeared on the group's rally stage on April 10, when Jatuporn and Nisit allegedly made their speeches critical of the Monarchy.

Meanwhile, a group of royalists appeared at the DSI office to express their support for Tharit over his legal action against the red-shirt lese majeste suspects.

-- Tan Network 2011-05-02

[Buchholz]

19 UDD leaders summoned to hear lèse majesté charges on June 2

Police Put Off Red-shirt Leaders' Reporting Date

The Red Shirts are receiving parliamentary immunity-like benefits without even being elected to parliament yet.

Thida isn't even running for parliament, but still gets the same delay.

[bungalownights]

and yet another signal of a PT victory...

[Thaddeus]

19 UDD leaders summoned to hear lèse majesté charges on June 2

Police Put Off Red-shirt Leaders' Reporting Date

The Red Shirts are receiving parliamentary immunity-like benefits without even being elected to parliament yet.

Thida isn't even running for parliament, but still gets the same delay.

Could just be a ruse by the DSI.

Best way to really piss off creatures with these character traits is to let them think they have won and got away with it