Check again - it is 3 (three) not 2.

Both are marriage certificates,

Kor Ror 3 is issued only one time at the marriage.

Kor Ror 2 can be requested always and is to confirm that you still married.

No. Only khor rhor 3 is the marriage certificate. (and you have to turn it in when you divorce).

Khor rhor 2 is a copy of the entry into the marriage register. This entry gives many more details and can be used to show you are still married.

OK, it is not a marriage certificate but a certificate that you are still married.

In my opinion it is still a certificate as it is stamped and authorized by the Thai government.

I have a Kor Ror 2 thread running on the next page of this forum, But I'll post this info in this thread seeing as it's more active.

You don't have to go to the Amphur where you got married to get this certificate. You can go to your local Amphur, and they will go online and print it off for you. The Amphur at Don Muang charged me 10bht.

But that is only true if you have not been married very long as they only have recent records on-line. Those of us with older marriages must return to the District Office of registration to obtain.

Yes, good point. I hadn't thought of that. I've only been married a few years so luckily I'm on the computer.

What would happen if someone got married in Chaing Mai, maybe 20yrs ago, and they now live in Bangkok? Surely, they wouldn't have to go back to the original Amphur?

Someone would. Think of the number of Thai who until very recently had to return to home for any name change to there ID cards.

We will be applying for the first (marrigae)extension next week Tuesday at Cheang Wattana.

Do they usually require this from people in Bangkok, too?

We will bring tons of pictures.

The thing is, we have little contact with the neighbors in our condo.

On top of this, we will be going on a short vacation on the following Sunday.

Cheang Wattana may be more sympathetic than Nong Khai but its up to you to supply them with whatever they demand. In my case, at first they said they were going to interview our neighbour then the next day my wife was told they would not be doing this and demanded we bring two witnesses to testify we were married and living together in the house.

'Demanded'..'demand'...............or did they ask/require???

Yes, good point. I hadn't thought of that. I've only been married a few years so luckily I'm on the computer.

What would happen if someone got married in Chaing Mai, maybe 20yrs ago, and they now live in Bangkok? Surely, they wouldn't have to go back to the original Amphur?

We got married in Samui, had to get it from Samui -- thank goodness immigration is also in Samui. But yes, if its not in the computer they have to copy it from the register at the amphur where you married.

I have to go to Samui Immigration to apply for my first 1 year extension based on marriage and I'm a little bit confused about it.

My 90 days permit to stay expires on 29th December 2011.

How long before that date I've to apply for the extension? Some people told me that I've to go to Immigration at the end of November

because I've to wait 30 days for the extension. Is that right?

Another question is about the map. I printed out a map from google maps and marked the place of my house and wrote the address on the map.

Is that enough? I've heard that some immigration demand a hand drawing map as well.

How many copies of each document do they need? I made 2 copies of each document.

I've heard so many stories about Samui Immi and I hope you can give me some suggestions.

Thanks in advance!

Two copies are normal for outside of Bangkok but no harm in having a third set just in case. That map may not be understood and a simple drawing you would provide store for delivery requested so you might want to have both in your folio. You can apply up to 30 days early but there is no real reason to be more than a week or two early. You receive a 30 day under review stamp that allows continued stay for that period regardless of when you make application.

@lopburi3

Thank you very much for your quick reply. So I'll made one more set of copies and a hand drawing map just in case.

Yesterday I went to Samui Immigration and finally I got my under consideration stamp without any problems. All my copies were ok and the officer was very friendly to us. He interviewed us together and not seperated. The stamp in my passport says that I have to go again on 28 Jan 2012. Does it mean that I have to go only on this date or can I go after 30 days counted from yesterday?

Go on the date indicated - that likely allows for the disruption from flooding and backlog in Bangkok so more than 30 days required (as used to be normal).

Go on the date indicated - that likely allows for the disruption from flooding and backlog in Bangkok so more than 30 days required (as used to be normal).

Ok, thank you very much.

I have always taken the affirmation to marry, the wedding certificate and the ledger book entry.

Extension of O Visa .

If the marriage has been made in a Western country, does the marriage certificate document need translating to Thai.

Edited December 19, 201114 yr by peterquixote

For extensions the District Office copy of registration must be presented regardless of where marriage actually took place and that will require Thai language translation and Embassy paperwork be recorded there first.

You must register your marriage with the Yhai government. This means certify the wedding certificate by your embassy, have it translated into Thai, have it legalized by the Thai Foreign Ministry, Cosular section and hten have it recorded at an amphur. From the amphur you will need to ask the Kor rhor 22 form, this confirms that the foreign marriage has been recorded at the amphur and is required by immigration. You can do this at any amphur.

You must register your marriage with the Yhai government. This means certify the wedding certificate by your embassy, have it translated into Thai, have it legalized by the Thai Foreign Ministry, Cosular section and hten have it recorded at an amphur. From the amphur you will need to ask the Kor rhor 22 form, this confirms that the foreign marriage has been recorded at the amphur and is required by immigration. You can do this at any amphur.

Mario you've created a new country Yhailand! Yhai, Yhai, Yhai! Is it easier to get a "marriiage", a "long stay", " retirement", or "O-A" visa or "old fart" visa extension there?

Edited December 19, 201114 yr by wayned

From the post above [ by Mario ] about registration and recognition of western marriage.

Within the terms of the O Visa long stay, and the procedures he outlined to get marriage verification,

I get the feeling that it may be more straight forward of to marry in Thailand, not New Zealand.

Off subject, but associated.

On the other hand, I have to try to get a residency Visa for my girl friend to New Zealand later, after six months .

To do this requires marriage, here in NZ or Thailand..

Just getting her here on a tourist Visa earlier this year was a nightmare.

I am wondering therefore how they will treat the issue of permanent residency.

There were no New Zealanders in the NZ Immigration office, that I could see, only Thais.

They seemed to proceed on the basis that my girlfriend was probably a criminal and would be a vagrant overstayer in NZ.

It was unbelievable,. these people even wanted copies of all personal emails.

In the end after a mountain of suspicion and meaningless disgraceful suggestion from NZ Immigration [ read Thai emigration ]

I paid them a required bond and that settled it.

It took me two months of on and off work.

Edited December 20, 201114 yr by peterquixote

If you have specific questions on her getting into NZ after marriage you should be asking in the other visa forum thread as readers there are likely to have better knowledge. For Thailand it would be best to have marriage here I suspect - but a visit to Embassy/translation and MFA will be required in either case and not sure of status getting a visa to NZ after marriage.

Important information and a helpful tip for those doing a retirement or marriage extension at Chaeng Wattana immigration in Bangkok.

Although this applies directly to a retirement extension, the same procedure MAY be used by immigration at Chaeng Wattana for marriage extension.

Immigration may choose to insist on this procedure.

You should bring not ONLY copies of your bankbook, and your bank letter, but ALSO your actual bankbook with you when going to Chaeng Wattana for your initial application.

This is because at Chaeng Wattana there are branchs of most if not all the major Thai banks down on the 1st floor.

The immigration officer may ask you to go down to your bank branch on the 1st floor, and make a token withdrawal or deposit into your account using your passbook,

100 Baht will do.

When you make that deposit or withdrawal the bank computer prints an entry into your passbook with the current date and your updated balance.

The immigration officer will amost certainly check that date and balance entry before signing/initializing your form, and sending you to his or her supervisor for final approval.

Since this takes no more than 5 or 10 minutes the procedure is commonly used by immigration as verification of your actual balance at the time they approve your application.

As my Brit friends might say, if you don't have your passbook, and therefore can't do this when asked; you will look and feel like a right proper twit.

To avoid that, always have your bankbook with you when going to Chaeng Wattana...especially for your intial application for an extension....whether it is for a retirement or marriage extension.

Edited December 21, 201114 yr by IMA_FARANG

You should always have your bankbook with you at any office anywhere in the country - the copies are for immigration to keep but they will normally want to see the originals.

As for Chiang Watanna you are correct most times they will want an up to date entry now.