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Why does America have two million prisoners?

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[Opinion. Our  prisoners are not a great ad for the “Land of the Free”. 580 Americans per 100,000 are not free. In fact, our  two million show that to be a lie. 

A million of those committed crimes of violence so maybe a percentage of those need prison. But mostly prisoners need education, counseling, rehabilitation through work at minimum wage, not 20¢ an hour. Unless, that is, we are monsters fully committed to vengeance for the mildest of crimes.

Dostoevsky wrote, "A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals.” America’s record is poor.]

How to Stop a Jail

In These Times: 12 Jun 2026

SOURCE: https://actionnetwork.org/events/how-to-stop-a-jail/

Across the United States, jails are crumbling and overpopulated. Community groups have clear ideas about how to meet people's needs, but have to fight to be heard. To further complicate an already fraught question of what to do, if not build new jails to replace old ones, is the looming threat and reality of ICE detention centers quickly coming into communities.

A coalition in Atlanta has made gains in its ongoing fight to stop the construction of a new mega-jail. Similar efforts are underway across the United States. Three prison abolitionists wrote No New Beds

The Community Over Cages coalition,  Women on the Rise and Families for Justice as Healing were part of a campaign in Massachusetts fighting to stop an over-$300 million women's prison.

"A lot of times—when we are always screaming, 'Hey, close the jail or don't build a new jail!'—they're looking for, ‘OK, if we don't, then what?’” Hassan explains. “And I think once we filled that hole, it filled that gap and gives them solutions, instead of just giving them what they should be doing.

“That's when it opened up their eyes."

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    Because the USA doesn't have enough prisons to house the rest of the scum that shouldn't be allowed to be in the public domain.

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    The USA developed a system that imprisons more people and keeps them imprisoned longer. It dehumanizes prisoners and fails to provide enough social support, decent schools, mental health care and oppo

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Because the USA doesn't have enough prisons to house the rest of the scum that shouldn't be allowed to be in the public domain.

Why does America have two million prisoners?

Diversity ?

Maybe a breakdown of what part of the diversity cake is in there.

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The USA developed a system that imprisons more people and keeps them imprisoned longer. It dehumanizes prisoners and fails to provide enough social support, decent schools, mental health care and opportunities before people enter the criminal system. American culture also plays a role, with its strong belief in punishment, personal responsibility and being tough on crime, often leaving little room for rehabilitation or understanding the social causes behind crime. There is also a strong belief that weapons, force and a firm hand can solve almost every conflict.

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I'm betting that Berlin wished they had imprisoned that Pride Parade radical who drove into the crowd.

"Ballout had previously received a juvenile sentence of one year and 10 months in prison, although it had been suspended."

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1 hour ago, FlorC said:

Why does America have two million prisoners?

Diversity ?

Maybe a breakdown of what part of the diversity cake is in there.

Yes, those from broken single parent homes without a dominant figure to instill some discipline before they lose their way.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

The USA developed a system that imprisons more people and keeps them imprisoned longer. It dehumanizes prisoners and fails to provide enough social support, decent schools, mental health care and opportunities before people enter the criminal system. American culture also plays a role, with its strong belief in punishment, personal responsibility and being tough on crime, often leaving little room for rehabilitation or understanding the social causes behind crime. There is also a strong belief that weapons, force and a firm hand can solve almost every conflict.

did ya let brevik out yet? light punishment for neo national socialist mass murderers is ok, right?

oh and as to this? "American culture also plays a role, with its strong belief in punishment, personal responsibility and being tough on crime, often leaving little room for rehabilitation or understanding the social causes behind crime."

did you cut and paste that ignorance? do you know anyhting about criminology in the usa?

It appears there are 2,200,000 people in USA in prison of crimes they have been found guilty of, another 500,000 in jails waiting trial, That equates to .077% of our population incarcerated. Up to 90% of all State/Federal prisons are run by private entities, it is a huge business and drain on our US taxes. It is estimated it costs close to $85 per day to incarcerate a single inmate, thats a lot of money. Sad state of affairs.

2 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

[Opinion. Our  prisoners are not a great ad for the “Land of the Free”. 580 Americans per 100,000 are not free. In fact, our  two million show that to be a lie. 

A million of those committed crimes of violence so maybe a percentage of those need prison. But mostly prisoners need education, counseling, rehabilitation through work at minimum wage, not 20¢ an hour. Unless, that is, we are monsters fully committed to vengeance for the mildest of crimes.

Dostoevsky wrote, "A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals.” America’s record is poor.]

How to Stop a Jail

In These Times: 12 Jun 2026

SOURCE: https://actionnetwork.org/events/how-to-stop-a-jail/

Across the United States, jails are crumbling and overpopulated. Community groups have clear ideas about how to meet people's needs, but have to fight to be heard. To further complicate an already fraught question of what to do, if not build new jails to replace old ones, is the looming threat and reality of ICE detention centers quickly coming into communities.

A coalition in Atlanta has made gains in its ongoing fight to stop the construction of a new mega-jail. Similar efforts are underway across the United States. Three prison abolitionists wrote No New Beds. 

The Community Over Cages coalition,  Women on the Rise and Families for Justice as Healing were part of a campaign in Massachusetts fighting to stop an over-$300 million women's prison.

"A lot of times—when we are always screaming, 'Hey, close the jail or don't build a new jail!'—they're looking for, ‘OK, if we don't, then what?’” Hassan explains. “And I think once we filled that hole, it filled that gap and gives them solutions, instead of just giving them what they should be doing.

“That's when it opened up their eyes."

Because they don't follow the law, they end up in jail where they belong.

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7 minutes ago, Explorator en Action said:

Up to 90% of all State/Federal prisons are run by private entities,

You lie.

No. That figure is not accurate for the United States.

In the U.S., the vast majority of state and federal prisons are publicly operated by government agencies.

Here’s the breakdown:

  • Federal prisons: Almost all are operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. A small number of federal inmates are housed in privately operated facilities under contract, but private prisons make up only a small share of the federal prison system.

  • State prisons: Most are run by state departments of corrections. Some states contract with private companies to operate a limited number of prisons.

Looking at the inmate population rather than the number of facilities:

  • About 8–9% of state prisoners are housed in privately operated prisons.

  • About 15–16% of federal prisoners are housed in privately operated facilities.

  • Overall, roughly 9–10% of U.S. prisoners are in private prisons, meaning around 90% are in publicly operated facilities.

It’s possible you’re thinking of other correctional services—such as food service, medical care, transportation, phone services, or probation programs—which are often contracted out to private companies even within government-run prisons. But the claim that “up to 90% of all state and federal prisons are run by private entities” is false; the reality is essentially the opposite.

4 minutes ago, Fact said:

You lie.

No. That figure is not accurate for the United States.

In the U.S., the vast majority of state and federal prisons are publicly operated by government agencies.

Here’s the breakdown:

  • Federal prisons: Almost all are operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. A small number of federal inmates are housed in privately operated facilities under contract, but private prisons make up only a small share of the federal prison system.

  • State prisons: Most are run by state departments of corrections. Some states contract with private companies to operate a limited number of prisons.

Looking at the inmate population rather than the number of facilities:

  • About 8–9% of state prisoners are housed in privately operated prisons.

  • About 15–16% of federal prisoners are housed in privately operated facilities.

  • Overall, roughly 9–10% of U.S. prisoners are in private prisons, meaning around 90% are in publicly operated facilities.

It’s possible you’re thinking of other correctional services—such as food service, medical care, transportation, phone services, or probation programs—which are often contracted out to private companies even within government-run prisons. But the claim that “up to 90% of all state and federal prisons are run by private entities” is false; the reality is essentially the opposite.

Touche’ your last paragraph is what I was leaning toward, incarceration is a big business - Thanx for the correction and setting me straight. I have a Nephew who was in prison in a State Facility - bar fight ending in a death - he was on a program as a Forrest Fire Fighter - smoke jumper - as he was a Paratrooper in the Army - they cut his time in half for his service fighting forest fires, so instead of 20 years, he’ll be out soon. Programs like this are a possible rehabilitation tool, should be mandatory across the country. Cheers

Guns. Drugs. Poverty. Mental illness.

Lack of political will to address these issues and their consequences outside of the penal system.

Emphasis more on punishment than rehabilitation

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4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Yes, those from broken single parent homes without a dominant figure to instill some discipline before they lose their way.

Aren't you the self-righteous one, now.

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4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

did ya let brevik out yet? light punishment for neo national socialist mass murderers is ok, right?

oh and as to this? "American culture also plays a role, with its strong belief in punishment, personal responsibility and being tough on crime, often leaving little room for rehabilitation or understanding the social causes behind crime."

did you cut and paste that ignorance? do you know anyhting about criminology in the usa?

Likely more than you, having been in prison 35 times.

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3 hours ago, Fact said:

You lie.

No. That figure is not accurate for the United States.

In the U.S., the vast majority of state and federal prisons are publicly operated by government agencies.

Here’s the breakdown:

  • Federal prisons: Almost all are operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. A small number of federal inmates are housed in privately operated facilities under contract, but private prisons make up only a small share of the federal prison system.

  • State prisons: Most are run by state departments of corrections. Some states contract with private companies to operate a limited number of prisons.

Looking at the inmate population rather than the number of facilities:

  • About 8–9% of state prisoners are housed in privately operated prisons.

  • About 15–16% of federal prisoners are housed in privately operated facilities.

  • Overall, roughly 9–10% of U.S. prisoners are in private prisons, meaning around 90% are in publicly operated facilities.

It’s possible you’re thinking of other correctional services—such as food service, medical care, transportation, phone services, or probation programs—which are often contracted out to private companies even within government-run prisons. But the claim that “up to 90% of all state and federal prisons are run by private entities” is false; the reality is essentially the opposite.

You're right. GeoGroup has 62,000 prisoners, CoreCivic 53,026.

Both private and govt prisons have prisoners' jobs which pay 20c/hour. Contact with family is limited due to extortionate phone rates provided by Global TelLink/ViaPath and Securus Technology. Not only are prisoners removed fae from their communities, making family visits difficult and expensive but they are often given diesel therapy in buses to prisons without notifying family in advance.

Medical and dental care is abysmal, run by private companies WellPath and VitalCore Health Technologies. 15% of all prisoners in the US are over 55, making medical care extensive and expensive. If a prisoner has any serious condition, they turf him out to die so as not to bear the cost. There is no PA as there is VA.

Recidivism is extensive. Once jail is home, many prisoners want to get back inside where life is safe and orderly. Very few attempts are made at rehabilitation and return to the community.

Maybe read that Dostoevsky quote again.

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3 hours ago, Fact said:

You lie.

No. That figure is not accurate for the United States.

In the U.S., the vast majority of state and federal prisons are publicly operated by government agencies.

Here’s the breakdown:

  • Federal prisons: Almost all are operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons. A small number of federal inmates are housed in privately operated facilities under contract, but private prisons make up only a small share of the federal prison system.

  • State prisons: Most are run by state departments of corrections. Some states contract with private companies to operate a limited number of prisons.

Looking at the inmate population rather than the number of facilities:

  • About 8–9% of state prisoners are housed in privately operated prisons.

  • About 15–16% of federal prisoners are housed in privately operated facilities.

  • Overall, roughly 9–10% of U.S. prisoners are in private prisons, meaning around 90% are in publicly operated facilities.

It’s possible you’re thinking of other correctional services—such as food service, medical care, transportation, phone services, or probation programs—which are often contracted out to private companies even within government-run prisons. But the claim that “up to 90% of all state and federal prisons are run by private entities” is false; the reality is essentially the opposite.

Fact, why do you have to make it all aggro--"you lie". Practically no one lies intentionally. "You're wrong" might be somewhat friendlier. Lots of us get wrong opinions or false stats. They need to be correct, nothing more.

It seems the only prisoner that gets preferential treatment is a certain woman

charged and convicted with sex trafficking ,for keeping her mouth shut...

Will Trump pardon the Tate brothers ? ,

regards worgeordie

Prisoners are in prison because they are criminals and have committed a crime.

They should be grateful that they are only being locked up and deprived of their liberty.

Its not that long ago when criminals were treated much harsher, hard labour the death penalty hands chopped off flogging.

Forget all the rehabilitation nonsense prison should be a punishment and a means of protecting society from those who seek to do others harm or deprive them of their property.

Prison should be so hard degrading and brutal that nobody would want to ever return.

Repeat offenders should get life or a long drop.

I know a lot will disagree with me but for the majority of society and ordinary people it would be a blessing.

9 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Why does America have two million prisoners?

I agree, makes no sense, need to start culling.

  • Start with the Pedos, rapist. I'd sign up for the executioner job

  • Next, the the Wokes and lefties, 555, just joking

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  1. defense lawyers too expensive makes poverty a de facto crime

  2. Parole/probation system churn

  3. War on Drugs

  4. “three strikes” laws

  5. High incarceration for nonviolent crimes

13 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:
  1. defense lawyers too expensive makes poverty a de facto crime

  2. Parole/probation system churn

  3. War on Drugs

  4. “three strikes” laws

  5. High incarceration for nonviolent crimes

The poor receive counsel without any charge.

15 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

High incarceration for nonviolent crimes

Do you support the release of Bernie Madoff?

... because they're very naughty boys, and girls...

12 hours ago, Explorator en Action said:

It is estimated it costs close to $85 per day to incarcerate a single inmate, thats a lot of money. Sad state of affairs.

It's still a better deal than letting them out into polite society to rape, burglarize, carjack and murder.

After about a dozen convictions, prison shouldn't be about rehabilitation. That ship has sailed. It's about warehousing oxygen thieves to keep the rest of us safe. America's got a lot of those. Because we're not allowed to hang them any more.

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According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the growth in jail populations has been almost entirely driven by an increase in people held before trial rather than an increase in convicted inmates. Remember "innocent until proven guilty"?

A large share of these unconvicted individuals remain behind bars simply because they cannot afford to pay bail. The median felony bail bond is usually $10,000 - higher than the annual income of many defendants unable to secure release.

https://www.statista.com/chart/35042/estimated-number-of-people-in-us-jails-by-conviction-status/?srsltid=AfmBOor1Ebh_rTxJ8ratPq9iL6v5Loi-fnaDffmPIWrHgZR2dTqu4aBh

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/research/pretrial_detention/

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3 hours ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Emphasis more on punishment than rehabilitation

15 hours ago, Bannoi said:

Prisoners are in prison because they are criminals and have committed a crime.

They should be grateful that they are only being locked up and deprived of their liberty.

Its not that long ago when criminals were treated much harsher, hard labour the death penalty hands chopped off flogging.

Forget all the rehabilitation nonsense prison should be a punishment and a means of protecting society from those who seek to do others harm or deprive them of their property.

Prison should be so hard degrading and brutal that nobody would want to ever return.

Repeat offenders should get life or a long drop.

I know a lot will disagree with me but for the majority of society and ordinary people it would be a blessing.

The punishment is separation from one's family and community, not harsh conditions.

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14 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:
  1. defense lawyers too expensive makes poverty a de facto crime

  2. Parole/probation system churn

  3. War on Drugs

  4. “three strikes” laws

  5. High incarceration for nonviolent crimes

Mandatory minimums.

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