let alone your blanket accusation of all red shirt (supporters) blaming the government?

You mean there are Red Shirts that don't blame the government?

Where?

A good point.

I should have put in the context it was meant e.g from another thread also unrelated to the HRW report, by Rubl

For almost a year we've seen posts on 'government to blame', 'army slaughters', 'peaceful protesters', 'Abhisit said kill them', etc., etc. We've seen posters agreeing that the government should bear some of the blame, open up, etc., etc. Did we see red-shirt supporters say 'yes, we were a bit aggressive', 'we liked those militants to help us', 'our leaders indoctrinated us', etc., etc.? Did we? NO, we didn't! Government conspiracy, Army conniving, 'us poor red-shirts'.

Personally I have seen so called "red shirt supporters" on this forum post reasoned arguments to some of the above talkng points. Not everybody agrees with the arguments proposed and to tell the truth the (un)balance of aggressive posters seems to be on the "pro government side", those that will not accept any criticism of their version of events, but that is just my opinion.

I should have put in the context it was meant e.g from another thread also unrelated to the HRW report, by Rubl

For almost a year we've seen posts on 'government to blame', 'army slaughters', 'peaceful protesters', 'Abhisit said kill them', etc., etc. We've seen posters agreeing that the government should bear some of the blame, open up, etc., etc. Did we see red-shirt supporters say 'yes, we were a bit aggressive', 'we liked those militants to help us', 'our leaders indoctrinated us', etc., etc.? Did we? NO, we didn't! Government conspiracy, Army conniving, 'us poor red-shirts'.

Personally I have seen so called "red shirt supporters" on this forum post reasoned arguments to some of the above talkng points. Not everybody agrees with the arguments proposed and to tell the truth the (un)balance of aggressive posters seems to be on the "pro government side", those that will not accept any criticism of their version of events, but that is just my opinion.

My dear phiphidon, this discussion is going nowhere, as you don't seem to want it to go anywhere.

Fine, so be it.

I'm tempted to quote from the movie 'Independence Day' with Russell Case saying "All right, you alien <deleted>! In the words of my generation, UP YOURS!", but that would probably be against forum rules. So let me just wish you a pleasant evening and till we meet again. 'good night, sweet prince' *

(* Hamlet, Horatio, scene II)

I should have put in the context it was meant e.g from another thread also unrelated to the HRW report, by Rubl

For almost a year we've seen posts on 'government to blame', 'army slaughters', 'peaceful protesters', 'Abhisit said kill them', etc., etc. We've seen posters agreeing that the government should bear some of the blame, open up, etc., etc. Did we see red-shirt supporters say 'yes, we were a bit aggressive', 'we liked those militants to help us', 'our leaders indoctrinated us', etc., etc.? Did we? NO, we didn't! Government conspiracy, Army conniving, 'us poor red-shirts'.

Personally I have seen so called "red shirt supporters" on this forum post reasoned arguments to some of the above talkng points. Not everybody agrees with the arguments proposed and to tell the truth the (un)balance of aggressive posters seems to be on the "pro government side", those that will not accept any criticism of their version of events, but that is just my opinion.

My dear phiphidon, this discussion is going nowhere, as you don't seem to want it to go anywhere.

Fine, so be it.

I'm tempted to quote from the movie 'Independence Day' with Russell Case saying "All right, you alien <deleted>! In the words of my generation, UP YOURS!", but that would probably be against forum rules. So let me just wish you a pleasant evening and till we meet again. 'good night, sweet prince' *

(* Hamlet, Horatio, scene II)

Just so long as you're not one of those aggressive posters that do not accept criticism, thats fine, laters (most definitely not Shakespeare)