Rubber Trees

[Mosha]

Passed some guys yesterday, watering their palm oil trees from drums of water.

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im surprised to hear that. I thought there was always a lot of rain in your area.

Palm (oil) trees need the minimum of 1.2 m of rainfall a year. They also are not to planted above 150 m sea level.

We normally get over 4 metres of rain.

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[Gary A]

I have a very strong 6 inch bore hole. I use a 5,000 watt generator and a 1 HP submersible pump. It takes a lot of gasoline. Today I got a price for a solar system. Complete with a DC pump. The cost was 124,000 baht. That choked me up a bit. I can buy a lot of gasoline for that much money.

Hi Gary,

I don't knowm how deep is your well. I Googled this ระบบปั๊มน้ำพลังงานแสงอาทิตย์ rabob pam nam palang seng athit water pump system using solar energy

and got this: http://waterpumpsolarcell.lnwshop.com/

http://www.thaiwatersystem.com/contactus

I'm adding this one...:http://www.kasetporpeang.com/forums/index.php?topic=50176.0

This may also be interesting, a kind of hydrological data http://www.dgr.go.th/well_web/WellWEB/Well_web.html

The well is 50 meters deep. The pump is down about 36 meters. The local driller hit strong water at 26 meters but he thought the water had too many minerals so he went deeper. It was a flat rate deal. He charged 35,000 baht. He promised good quality water regardless on the depth. He was true to his word.

[Mosha]

Finally, it's bucketing it down.

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[scotbeve]

Finally, it's bucketing it down.

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In Chiang Mai as well! Not sure about the farms though..... Good to hear!

[Mosha]

Not sure on the flow, but they're tapping. Dam_n hot on a night.

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[geuda]

In Loei we started tapping right after Songkran, it rains quite often, not a lot but often enough and trees are producing decently.

[thaiguzzi]

First sale of the season yesterday, 31.10 baht per kg @ auction, Udon province. Pitiful amount in weight, we only sold because staff were being swapped around on different plots.

[Mosha]

Sold at 25 2 days ago, and finally got a decent amount of rain. The stream is flowing again. It was starting to stink.

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[Mosha]

From not tapping cos it's too hot, to not tapping cos it's too wet.

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[geuda]

It often rains and one has to let trees dry out otherwise the rubber flows on the trunk instead of getting into the cup, what a pleasant activity indeed.

[Mosha]

It often rains and one has to let trees dry out otherwise the rubber flows on the trunk instead of getting into the cup, what a pleasant activity indeed.

You can tear the bark if it's too wet. We are getting the edge of the Indian Ocean cyclone. Still we needed it. Stream behind the house was almost bone dry.

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[codybell]

I appreciate where you guys are coming from and I understand that you are both not tapping for rubber as yet but soon will be. Tthere are some misconceptions that you are working too.

[thaiguzzi]

As Manuel the waiter said; "Que?"...

[wijar]

I appreciate where you guys are coming from and I understand that you are both not tapping for rubber as yet but soon will be. Tthere are some misconceptions that you are working too.

and these are..................?

[geuda]

I appreciate where you guys are coming from and I understand that you are both not tapping for rubber as yet but soon will be. Tthere are some misconceptions that you are working too.

What do you mean by that???

[Dakling]

I appreciate where you guys are coming from and I understand that you are both not tapping for rubber as yet but soon will be. Tthere are some misconceptions that you are working too.

My guess is that we will shortly be seeing a link to some sort of rain shield contraption.

[wijar]

Nice word this "misconception" bit. Still wandering what this misconception "we" are working to. I think there is a misci=onception here, that we care about an opnionless opinion.

[cobbler]

The big danger with tapping while bark is wet is bacteria can and does form on the tree. When this happens it can be spread to other trees via the knife. This bacteria really damages the tree and yang will stop flowing and then tree will become non productive. Tree then needs to be rested for a long period of time.maybe 1 season. Worst case senario is the tree will never be productive again. So beware of this.

Cheers Cobbler

[geuda]

The big danger with tapping while bark is wet is bacteria can and does form on the tree. When this happens it can be spread to other trees via the knife. This bacteria really damages the tree and yang will stop flowing and then tree will become non productive. Tree then needs to be rested for a long period of time.maybe 1 season. Worst case senario is the tree will never be productive again. So beware of this.

Cheers Cobbler

Thanks for that Cobbler, I wasn't aware of that danger, I'll ask my wife whether she knows about that bacteria. BTW, does it have a name?

[cobbler]

No im sorry i have no idea. I can only tell you its fact. Nothing like a bit of product knowledge eh lmao

[geuda]

Well cobbler, I spoke to my wife. She knows about it. Her mother has got several trees which do not produce anymore. I suggested to use the flame of a lighter to sterilize knifes before tapping the next tree for so far it's raining.

[cobbler]

Well cobbler, I spoke to my wife. She knows about it. Her mother has got several trees which do not produce anymore. I suggested to use the flame of a lighter to sterilize knifes before tapping the next tree for so far it's raining.

number 1 rule is dont tap if bark is wet. If you do, You will have problems. Its a real gamble mate. I do understand ,money is the bottom line though. All i can say is i dont know anybody who does tap wet trees as its just not worth the risk.

Ive seen tappers carry 3 or so knives to be sure they dont use the contaminated knife on other trees. Another way is to have a rag with metho on it or something like that to sterilize the knife after tapping infected tree or trees. This is quick and effective.

Best of luck with it. Cheers Cobbler

[geuda]

Hi cobbler, thanks for insisting, I appreciate and will follow your wise advice.

Cheers,

B.

[Mosha]

Sacked our tapper yesterday, he hasn't been tapping the trees on the top of the hill. He'd rather go do building jobs. Wife doesn't want another Burmese, so he is staying, and paying rent/electric.

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[cobbler]

Have u tried mon? Is it 10 rai? Coz if its 10 rai he can probably make more money building. They will go for the best money

[Mosha]

He is Mon, wife just doesn't want to go through all the paperwork crap. It's a about a 90km round trip to the labour office. It's about 16 or 17 rai. Wife went up this morning, he was only doing 2 rows. A friend has taken over, 50/50 costs shared, and she cuts the grass. Been up already, ya kang young smoking from her belt 555.

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[cobbler]

5555 ok . For sure your mrs knows whats best. Good to see you still going well. Cant beat the old smoking belt eh. Keeps the yoong or yuung away, maybe a few vin yan as well.555

Cheers Cobbler

[Mosha]

<deleted> they were growling kratiem among the rubber.

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[Mosha]

Should say kratom.

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[thaiguzzi]

Sold at auction yesterday, Udon province, cup @ 27.05 baht per kg.

First sale in a month, only our second this season.

Earlier it was too hot and the land too dry affecting output, latetely it's been too wet to tap regularly.

Very low in punters and output at the auction, about half from previous year.