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CORRECTED -- Palestinian report claims over 7000 Palestinians killed by Israel in last decade

2011-05-13 20:12:59 GMT+7 (ICT)

RAMALLAH (BNO NEWS) -- A Palestinian report released on Thursday claimed that more than 7,000 Palestinians were killed in the last decade by what it calls "continuous Israeli attacks."

A report from the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) said 7,342 Palestinians were killed in the period from September 29, 2000 until December 31, 2010. There were 2,183 killings in the West Bank, while 5,015 Palestinians were killed in Gaza and the remaining number were Palestinian residents of Israel and abroad, it said.

The figures released by the bureau could not be independently verified, and the Palestinian report did not say whether those killed were civilians or militants, or both.

According to the report, 2009 was the bloodiest year of the last decade in which 1,219 Palestinians were killed, followed by 2002 in which 1,192 Palestinians were killed. In 2010, 107 were killed including the nine Turkish activists who were killed during the May 2010 raid on the Gaza flotilla.

The report also said that from 1967 until today, Israeli forces arrested around 750,000 Palestinians including nearly 12,000 females and "thousands of children. Currently, there are around six thousand Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 37 female prisoners and 245 children, it claimed.

Israel has previously stated it holds Hamas solely responsible for any terrorist activity emanating from the Gaza Strip. "The [israeli Defense Forces (IDF)] will not allow the Israeli southern communities to continue living under constant threat, and will continue to respond with determination to any attempt to use terror against the citizens of Israel," said the IDF spokesperson Brig. Gen. Yoav Mordechai Avi Benayahu.

In the winter of 2008-2009, Israel launched a surprise airstrike against the Gaza Strip which marked the beginning of a three-week military conflict between Israel and Hamas, killing nearly 1,500 people and leaving thousands more injured and displaced. Israel stated its aim was top stop ongoing rocket fire from and arms import into Gaza.

The Israeli region of Ashkelon and the southern area of the Gaza Strip have been the scene of an ongoing series of rocket attacks between Israeli Defense Forces and Palestinian militants.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

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if they going to release or correct this kind of report, can they NOT get the numbers right?They do not know how many have been arrested, its a round figure and do not know how many children again just "thousands", around 6000 still in jail, and yet the know the exact amount of female prisoners and children, so what happened to "thousands"?.

"The report also said that from 1967 until today, Israeli forces arrested around 750,000 Palestinians including nearly 12,000 females and "thousands of children. Currently, there are around six thousand Palestinians in Israeli prisons, including 37 female prisoners and 245 children, it claimed."

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here is the previous version:

The corrected version is now more balanced, because it mentions also IDF statements and of course the number of rockets fired by Gaza militants.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

Still missing in the report the number of victims and scale of damages caused by this rockets.

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here is the previous version: http://www.thaivisa....in-last-decade/

The corrected version is now more balanced, because it mentions also IDF statements and of course the number of rockets fired by Gaza militants.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

Still missing in the report the number of victims and scale of damages caused by this rockets.

This report would be released by Israel not Palestine., besides the scale of damage is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the the rockets were fired with only 1 intention and that is to kill civilians and only civilians, as all targets of the rockets were at civilian territory, certainly not military installations.

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Still missing in the report the number of victims and scale of damages caused by this rockets.

This report would be released by Israel not Palestine., besides the scale of damage is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the the rockets were fired with only 1 intention and that is to kill civilians and only civilians, as all targets of the rockets were at civilian territory, certainly not military installations.

The OP, the news by brought to us by BNO NEWS refers the a report released by the Palestinian authorities AND information from the Israeli side, quotes the IDF spokesperson Brig. Gen. Yoav Mordechai Avi Benayahu and other Israeli sources.

Guess why i pointed out that the corrected version is now more balanced?

Try to re-read the paragraph that mentions the number of rockets. To assist you i highlighted some key words.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

Btw. How you know with what intentions the rockets were fired?

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Still missing in the report the number of victims and scale of damages caused by this rockets.

This report would be released by Israel not Palestine., besides the scale of damage is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the the rockets were fired with only 1 intention and that is to kill civilians and only civilians, as all targets of the rockets were at civilian territory, certainly not military installations.

The OP, the news by brought to us by BNO NEWS refers the a report released by the Palestinian authorities AND information from the Israeli side, quotes the IDF spokesperson Brig. Gen. Yoav Mordechai Avi Benayahu and other Israeli sources.

Guess why i pointed out that the corrected version is now more balanced?

Try to re-read the paragraph that mentions the number of rockets. To assist you i highlighted some key words.

In 2010, the Israeli Security Agency reported a total of 150 rocket launches from the Gaza Strip towards Israel. It represented a significant drop from 569 laucnhes in 2009, although 407 of them were launched during Operation Cast Lead.

Btw. How you know with what intentions the rockets were fired?

You right, they were possibly trying to launch the satellite but the aim is slightly off.

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Btw. How you know with what intentions the rockets were fired?

Stop trolling Eddy, this is your last warning. You know bloody well they aren't scientific.

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Some of you miss the point its, 7000 dead Palestinian, most of them civilians, rockets (they don't have artillery) fired at Israel are simple part of the ongoing war.

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The point is that if they stop the mortar and rocket attacks and suicide bombings and sign a peace treaty no one will have a problem.

" If the Arabs lay down their arms there will be no war. If Israel lays down its arms there will be no Israel"

Edited by Ulysses G.
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Some of you miss the point its, 7000 dead Palestinian, most of them civilians, rockets (they don't have artillery) fired at Israel are simple part of the ongoing war.

Some argue that there is not intention to kill the civilians and as long they were killed unintentional is there no problem that they are dead.

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Some of you miss the point its, 7000 dead Palestinian, most of them civilians, rockets (they don't have artillery) fired at Israel are simple part of the ongoing war.

Some argue that there is not intention to kill the civilians and as long they were killed unintentional is there no problem that they are dead.

Solution is very simple, i would even say the simplest solution to a problem in the world.

Stop firing rockets=Israel does not need to retaliate= no intentional or unintentional civilians killed

The point that some have missed is that, it is Palestine, Hamas specifically who keeps the "war" going, which results in deaths. Mind you vast majority of the deaths are due to civilians being used as human shields as pointed out by Uly.

So, for as long its "part of ongoing war" civilians will die. But if Hamas has no interest in having a peace, than what is the point of releasing this reports?!

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The equation is simple. If the Palestinians of whatever stripe stopped attacking Israelis, then there would be no strikes back at Palestinians, and subsequently, no deaths.

That would leave the question of a homeland and inequalities open, but with a peaceful region, I personally believe that there could be a negotiated solution. The Palestinians can have their issues resolved, and Israel would have the security that any nation needs.

I disagree with many of the policies enacted by the Israeli government, but I wholly understand their reactions to attacks made upon them.

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Some of you miss the point its, 7000 dead Palestinian, most of them civilians, rockets (they don't have artillery) fired at Israel are simple part of the ongoing war.

Some argue that there is not intention to kill the civilians and as long they were killed unintentional is there no problem that they are dead.

Well, in my book BE, the loss of civilian life on both sides is terrible and everything possible should be done to avoid it. I can recall Israel voicing their regret at civilian causalities they have been responsible for ( though that is obviously of no benefit to the dead or their families ) but I'm struggling to remember a similar comment from Hamas.

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Another very important point. How many out of 7000 were military combatans?

Since Palestine has no official army, rockets are fired by someone and someone does fire guns, those surely conveniently included in the report yet they are not civilians

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here is one of those 7000 civilians,

Israeli Soldiers kill Palestinian mother,

That's pretty depressing viewing.

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I hope that everyone will not respond by posting videos about the Israeli family slaughtered in cold blood by Palestinian terrorists. :ermm:

Edited by Ulysses G.
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here is one of those 7000 civilians,

Israeli Soldiers kill Palestinian mother,

Should i post countless video clips of suicide bombing in Israel and perhaps the latest cold blooded murder of the entire family?

Again, when no rockets are fired, No retaliation is needed. it is really as simple as that!

PS. We have already seen how Palestinians make up the story lines. You can see it on another thread, so i do not need to repost.

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No, you should not post more videos.

Let's not start posting the endless videos of atrocities by either side.

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Why are some posters trying to show that the conflict is all the fault of the Arabs? They forget the historical context. Suggesting, just stop throwing the rockets and all will sort itself out.

The prime mover of the establishment of a modern Israel in Palestine was the British declaration of 1917. This was later backed by the League of Nations mandate. The inclusion of the Clause:

“the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine”

has been conveniently forgotten and flouted by Israel as it continues to ignore many UN resolutions today.

The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated areas in the world with about 4,000 /sq Kilometre. I know only of Monaco, Gibraltar and Singapore that are more crowded. Why is it so crowded? Because it is two thirds refugees. Over 4M refugees live in Gaza, West bank, Jordan, Syria or Lebanon. These refugees are the people displaced by the Israeli forces in 1948 and 1967 and their descendants.

The refugees in Gaza throw a few hundred homemade rockets and the IDF pound Gaza with the latest Aircraft and Tanks. That cannot be equal. It is clearly against international law.

Why do the Jews think that they have a god given right to hound almost all the non-Jewish inhabitants of Judah into Gaza and lay siege to them?

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Why are some posters trying to show that the conflict is all the fault of the Arabs? They forget the historical context. Suggesting, just stop throwing the rockets and all will sort itself out.

The prime mover of the establishment of a modern Israel in Palestine was the British declaration of 1917. This was later backed by the League of Nations mandate. The inclusion of the Clause:

“the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine”

has been conveniently forgotten and flouted by Israel as it continues to ignore many UN resolutions today.

The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated areas in the world with about 4,000 /sq Kilometre. I know only of Monaco, Gibraltar and Singapore that are more crowded. Why is it so crowded? Because it is two thirds refugees. Over 4M refugees live in Gaza, West bank, Jordan, Syria or Lebanon. These refugees are the people displaced by the Israeli forces in 1948 and 1967 and their descendants.

The refugees in Gaza throw a few hundred homemade rockets and the IDF pound Gaza with the latest Aircraft and Tanks. That cannot be equal. It is clearly against international law.

Why do the Jews think that they have a god given right to hound almost all the non-Jewish inhabitants of Judah into Gaza and lay siege to them?

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Why are some posters trying to show that the conflict is all the fault of the Arabs? They forget the historical context. Suggesting, just stop throwing the rockets and all will sort itself out.

The prime mover of the establishment of a modern Israel in Palestine was the British declaration of 1917. This was later backed by the League of Nations mandate. The inclusion of the Clause:

“the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine”

has been conveniently forgotten and flouted by Israel as it continues to ignore many UN resolutions today.

The Gaza strip is one of the most densely populated areas in the world with about 4,000 /sq Kilometre. I know only of Monaco, Gibraltar and Singapore that are more crowded. Why is it so crowded? Because it is two thirds refugees. Over 4M refugees live in Gaza, West bank, Jordan, Syria or Lebanon. These refugees are the people displaced by the Israeli forces in 1948 and 1967 and their descendants.

The refugees in Gaza throw a few hundred homemade rockets and the IDF pound Gaza with the latest Aircraft and Tanks. That cannot be equal. It is clearly against international law.

Why do the Jews think that they have a god given right to hound almost all the non-Jewish inhabitants of Judah into Gaza and lay siege to them?

Firstly when the British decided they wanted out of the British mandate lands it was recognised by the UN that there were two populations there who had a claim to the land, hence the partition plan passed by the UN and accepted by Israel. Had the Palestinians accepted this they would have had a state 63 years ago. As for UN resolutions, well we know what a biased rubber stamping machine the UNHRC is so anything coming out of that organization is a joke. As for UN declarations you are forgetting many of them such as 242 have actions required of the Palestinians too, so in order for Israel to be in breach of 242 by building settlements on disputed land the Palestinians must also cease hostile acts against Israel.

And why is Gaza so crowded? For a start Israel had to settle some 850,000 Jewish refugees evicted from Arab lands after 1948 and absorb them into a tiny Country, whereas all the arab nations refused to grant citizenship to the so called Palestinians, preferring to keep them camped on Israel's border for propaganda purposes. As for the treatment dished out by Israel to the Palestinians just look at the estimated 25,000 killed by the Jordanians when they expelled the PLO, but we never hear a murmur about that do we? :rolleyes:

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Why are some posters trying to show that the conflict is all the fault of the Arabs?

Probably because they were the ones that started attacking Jews in the first place and then refused the UN land that they were offered to settle the problem and then they declared war numerous times and turned down every peace deal that Israel agreed to as well.

They need to take responsibility for their actions and finally start compromising for the end to the conflict if they ever want theiir own country.

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