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No, I am specifically referring to the marathon session of the last cabinet meeting held by Abhisit before the house dissolution to push through over 150 "necessary" items involving hundreds of billions of baht. Vote and coalition partner buying by any other name.

Even The Nation queried this...........

Where indeed some items seem aimed at their popular effect, most could be classified as 'being in the pen' already. Just because the House dissolution was expected is no reason to stop work. For weeks there wasn't a quorum to vote on certain bills, not because no one was present, but because some simply move aside for a moment.

Of course this government still functioned nicely compared with the Samak and Somchai governments. mostly remembered for trying anything humanly possible to reach their one and only goal 'get k. Thaksin back' and failing miserably apart from not governing.

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EC says Yingluck qualified

Election Commission Chairman Apichart Sukhagganond said Friday that Yingluck Shinawatra, a sister of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, is qualified to contest the July 3 election although a part of her assets has been seized.

Apichart said Yingluck was not charged in a criminal case and the asset case has not been ruled by the Supreme Court yet.

Apichart was apparently referring to allegations that Yingluck had committed perjury when testifying to court in the assets seizure case against Thaksin.

The investigation into the perjury case against Yingluck has not begun yet.

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At issue in the above are Yingluck's 20,000,000 shares in Thaksin's company that the courts determined she was a proxy for and that Thaksin illegally controlled the shares as PM.

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The money trail in that case and the multiple other deals, transfers, loans that Yingluck has been involved with the clan over the years may very well be her undoing... before she even gets going.

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EC: Yingluck still qualified despite perjury allegation

BANGKOK, 20 May 2011 (NNT) – The Election Commission (EC) has confirmed that the qualifications of the Pheu Thai Party’s prime minister candidate Yingluck Shinawatra are not affected by the case involving her false testimony in court.

Questions have been raised over Ms Yingluck’s eligibility for premiership following an allegation over her provision of false information during the asset concealment trial of her elder brother, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. However, EC Chairman Apichart Sukhagganond clarified that Ms Yingluck’s candidacy was not in violation of the electoral law as no ruling on the case had been made by the Court on the day of registration.

On the other hand, he noted that it would be a different story if the candidate was given a jail sentence as the EC would need to reconsider her qualifications.

Moreover, any complaints received over the perjury case would also be taken into account.

Although the candidate registration process had just begun, Mr Apichart admitted that there had been some reports of electoral misconducts. EC officials across the country have thus been instructed to work with utmost neutrality in preventing law violations.

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On the other hand, he noted that it would be a different story if the candidate was given a jail sentence as the EC would need to reconsider her qualifications.

The law is pretty clear.

Sentenced to jail = ineligible to be MP.

Not an MP = ineligible to be PM.

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Election Body Sees Thaksin's Sister Qualified for Poll

The Election Commission says the Pheu Thai Party's number one party-list candidate is qualified to contest the upcoming poll unless she is sentenced to prison for perjury in the asset seizure case against her brother Thaksin Shinawatra.

Chairman of the Election Commission, or EC, Apichart Sukhagganond said the allegation of perjury against Pheu Thai's number one party-list MP candidate Yingluck Shinawatra will have no bearing on her election candidacy.

He insisted she is eligible to run in the election as long as the court does not hand down its ruling on the case yet.

Yingluck was accused of having committed perjury when she testified with the court in the asset seizure case against her brother, ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

The investigation into the perjury case against Yingluck has not begun yet.

Apichart suggested Yingluck's qualifications as MP candidate be reviewed when the court hands down its ruling in the case.

The EC chief said the poll panel will only look into complaints on frauds once they are submitted.

He added he has instructed provincial election agencies to remain neutral during the run-up to the polling day.

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-- Tan Network 2011-05-20

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In case there was ever any doubt, this poster spells out the simple, easy-to-understand PT policy.

For those who don't read Thai, the sign says.

"Thaksin

thinks ..

Pheu Thai

acts ..

"[We] did it before"

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Posted

In case there was ever any doubt, this poster spells out the simple, easy-to-understand PT policy.

For those who don't read Thai, the sign says.

"Thaksin

thinks ..

Pheu Thai

acts ..

"[We] did it before"

Nothing new.

If you like Thaksin you can vote for PT.

If you don't like Thaksin you can vote for something else.

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Thaksin tweets 5 reasons to vote for Yingluck

BANGKOK, 23 May 2011 (NNT) – On his Twitter page, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra has boasted five reasons for the public to cast their votes for his younger sister and Pheu Thai candidate Yingluck Shinawatra as the next prime minister.

Mr Thaksin stated in his latest Twitter message that he would vote for Ms Yingluck as the new leader of the country if he had the right.

He then persuaded his followers to choose his sister in the upcoming election and gave five reasons for doing so.

The ex-premier claimed that being a female with no political baggage would serve as an advantage for Ms Yingluck in the effort to reunite Thai people.

He also said her 20-year experiences in a wide range of positions within a public company would help her tackle the prevailing economic problems while her family background and education would allow her to adapt to the political arena in no time.

Lastly, Mr Thaksin expressed confidence that the aforementioned qualities would allow the Pheu Thai contender to develop a sound understanding of all people, from the grassroots population to entrepreneurs, as well as trade practices with foreign partners.

At the same time, the former Prime Minister admitted some weaknesses of his sister in the areas of law, government system and military.

However, he assured that there would be no problems if capable individuals were recruited to oversee related tasks.

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Mr Thaksin stated in his latest Twitter message that he would vote for Ms Yingluck as the new leader of the country if he had the right.
Alas, Thaksin is as ineligible to vote as the majority of the posters on this forum .... I think :)
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The ex-premier claimed that being a female with no political baggage would serve as an advantage for Ms Yingluck in the effort to reunite Thai people.

I'm thinking that her brother would be enough baggage to sink a ship.

He also said her 20-year experiences in a wide range of positions within a public company would help her tackle the prevailing economic problems while her family background and education would allow her to adapt to the political arena in no time.

What have her positions been? General Manager. President. CEO. Vice President. All of Thaksin related companies. Has she actually done any real work?

Lastly, Mr Thaksin expressed confidence that the aforementioned qualities would allow the Pheu Thai contender to develop a sound understanding of all people, from the grassroots population to entrepreneurs, as well as trade practices with foreign partners.

Having a 2,500 m2 football field in the backyard would give her a good understanding of grass roots. She would understand the changing of laws to sell things to foreign partners.

At the same time, the former Prime Minister admitted some weaknesses of his sister in the areas of law, government system and military.

However, he assured that there would be no problems if capable individuals were recruited to oversee related tasks.

As with most of her job positions, as long as she has someone to tell her what to do and what needs to be done, she should be fine.

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It's amazing how often it seems that Thaksin says derogatory things about his sister from being a clone to saying she's weak in a multitude of areas.

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Abhisit asks Pheu Thai for clear standpoints

BANGKOK, 28 May 2011 (NNT) – Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva has demanded the Pheu Thai Party to reveal its real prime minister candidate after some party key members admitted that Ms Yingluck Shinawatra, the top party-list candidate was unlikely to get the post.

Mr Abhisit stated that the house was dissolved to return power to people, so they should know who will be their leader to administer the country.

He questioned why the future of the kingdom must rely on ex-Prime Minister Dr Thaksin Shinawatra, whom he called a fugitive residing overseas.

The Democrat party leader hence demanded the Pheu Thai Party to make a clarification for the matter as transparency is needed for all Thai citizens. He also asked people to oppose such an action of the Pheu Thai Party.

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So much chuckin and jivein from this electioneering.

....and heaven forbid that Ms Yingluck Shinawatra should loose, one thing is for certain. Kn Thaksin Shinawatra would

be Shin-outta-luk

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^ :lol::D

one would think Abhisit's request is a fairly reasonable one for PTP to simply state who their PM candidate is without such differing statements issued by various elements within the same party. :blink:

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It's amazing how often it seems that Thaksin says derogatory things about his sister from being a clone to saying she's weak in a multitude of areas.

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Not so amazing.

There will be a number of remaining members of the PTP hierarchy and members who would be more than happy for Yingluck to run and get elected on her own account. If she comes off well then she is elected in her own right and a buffer to Thakin.Now that is not in Thaksin's plans at all and being the nasty piece of work he really is, he has no hesitation in trashing his own sister and making sure that she remains a 'clone' and is seen as nothing more. And so the constant denigrations and underminings.

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Abhisit asks Pheu Thai for clear standpoints

BANGKOK, 28 May 2011 (NNT) – Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva has demanded the Pheu Thai Party to reveal its real prime minister candidate after some party key members admitted that Ms Yingluck Shinawatra, the top party-list candidate was unlikely to get the post.

Mr Abhisit stated that the house was dissolved to return power to people, so they should know who will be their leader to administer the country.

He questioned why the future of the kingdom must rely on ex-Prime Minister Dr Thaksin Shinawatra, whom he called a fugitive residing overseas.

The Democrat party leader hence demanded the Pheu Thai Party to make a clarification for the matter as transparency is needed for all Thai citizens. He also asked people to oppose such an action of the Pheu Thai Party.

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a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM, so what's the issue here?

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Funny, can't find her name on the alumni list of Kentucky State U. Nor is she mentioned as a notable alumni...............

Now this is a lead I wish someone would follow through...

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a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM, so what's the issue here?

A lot of people vote for a party based on the expectation that a particular person will be PM if that party wins.

The PTP are playing games by letting people assume that Yingluck will be PM if they win, but seem to be planning to put someone else in as PM if they get lucky.

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oh yes that's true - hadn't thought of that! but it will never happen of course - they will win most votes for a single party then get shafted by the Dems and their cohorts who will be bought by getting posts and favors in the new government - and so it goes on

Having to get the majority support sucks, doesn't it?

what sucks is the shafting of the Thai people - if they want to support the Dems JOIN them not go on a different ticket then switch after being bought - that's my point - and also what sucks is the party with the majority (i.e. most) votes not being in power - if that was the Dems, by the way, I would say the same thing

A coalition of MPs that together have more than 50% of the peoples votes surely is a 'majority will of the people'?

Or do you have some other concept of democracy?

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a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM, so what's the issue here?

A lot of people vote for a party based on the expectation that a particular person will be PM if that party wins.

The PTP are playing games by letting people assume that Yingluck will be PM if they win, but seem to be planning to put someone else in as PM if they get lucky.

a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM,

c) the people know as much about the PT nominee for becoming PM as Abhisit knows, so what is his point?

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I understand that - but have to disagree that it doesn't matter if two get's 20% and one get's 40%

The two who get 20% have differing platforms and differing priorities otherwise they would errr be ONE! so the one who get's 40% has a much larger 'mandate' right?

If more than 50% can agree to work together against the largest party didn't get enough of a "mandate".

Just because a four party pact can of lets say 51% ofthe vote, does not mean that they have a mandate superior to 49 % single party.

Yes it does.

What you are two guys are proposing is against not only logic and math but also would in effect force a two-party state to all parliamentary democracies in the world. Which is nuts and anti-democratic.

A two-party system is the least democratic setup of a parliament.

And how would one judge if two parties that together has 60% of the votes (30+30) over one that has 40% has the 'moral authority' to rule? Try to weight for far away from each-others ideas they stand? If they could possibly be one party if they really wanted/needed?

Realize that having a difference of views, allowing a multitude of views to be heard, is the strength of a democratic system. You guys misunderstanding of the concept would stifle this.

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a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM, so what's the issue here?

A lot of people vote for a party based on the expectation that a particular person will be PM if that party wins.

The PTP are playing games by letting people assume that Yingluck will be PM if they win, but seem to be planning to put someone else in as PM if they get lucky.

a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM,

c) the people know as much about the PT nominee for becoming PM as Abhisit knows, so what is his point?

Yes. What I said before.

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a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM, so what's the issue here?

A lot of people vote for a party based on the expectation that a particular person will be PM if that party wins.

The PTP are playing games by letting people assume that Yingluck will be PM if they win, but seem to be planning to put someone else in as PM if they get lucky.

a) the people can vote for whatever ever party they want.

b )the people didn't elect Abhisit as PM,

c) the people know as much about the PT nominee for becoming PM as Abhisit knows, so what is his point?

Yes. What I said before.

No, you argue that the PT is playing games with the people and the people would not know it. Only Abhisit and you consider themselves so smart to spot a scheme here.

The people can vote for whatever ever party they want, time to accept this.

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No, you argue that the PT is playing games with the people and the people would not know it. Only Abhisit and you consider themselves so smart to spot a scheme here.

The people can vote for whatever ever party they want, time to accept this.

Where have I said that they can't?

People can vote for who they want, but they use information, like policies and leaders, to make their decision.

Do you think people just pick a name out of a hat?

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oh yes that's true - hadn't thought of that! but it will never happen of course - they will win most votes for a single party then get shafted by the Dems and their cohorts who will be bought by getting posts and favors in the new government - and so it goes on

Having to get the majority support sucks, doesn't it?

what sucks is the shafting of the Thai people - if they want to support the Dems JOIN them not go on a different ticket then switch after being bought - that's my point - and also what sucks is the party with the majority (i.e. most) votes not being in power - if that was the Dems, by the way, I would say the same thing

A coalition of MPs that together have more than 50% of the peoples votes surely is a 'majority will of the people'?

Or do you have some other concept of democracy?

TAWP -- you are writing to cnxpuuyaiBANNED ;)

Hit total argument is flawed .. not only in how PPP and the small parties they used for a coalition acted in 2007 --- but also in PTP (and all the previous Thaksin parties) buy regional political machines before the elections (such as S'noh --- shortlisted in the ptp party-list.)

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