Thailand Extradites Fraud Case Briton To UAE

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Thailand extradites fraud case Briton to UAE

DUBAI, June 13, 2011 (AFP) - Thailand has extradited a Briton wanted in the United Arab Emirates on charges of embezzling 150 million dollars to the Gulf Arab monarchy, state news agency WAM reported on Sunday.

"The competent authorities in the UAE recovered the accused in the corruption and breach of trust case, who had been wanted by Dubai World group," WAM said.

"The accused was extradited from Thailand on June 7," it said.

A Thai court on February 18, 2010 agreed to extradite 43-year-old Michael Bryan Smith, who was arrested in Bangkok in May 2009 after eight months on the run from charges that he siphoned the cash from the UAE's global holding company.

Police said Smith, who is married to a Thai woman, travelled extensively through Vietnam, Hong Kong, the Philippines and Thailand after fleeing Dubai in 2008.

The move has political overtones as Bangkok has long been pushing the UAE over the fate of fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, who spends much of his time in Dubai.

The Thai and UAE governments are currently negotiating an extradition treaty and have discussed a draft agreement on the matter after talks in Dubai in January.

The lack of a treaty has so far hindered Thailand's efforts to bring home telecommunications tycoon Thaksin, who was toppled in a 2006 coup and sentenced in absentia to two years in jail for corruption in 2008.

-- (c) Copyright AFP 2011-06-13

[OzMick]

Did the list of haven countries just shrink a little? Sounds like they wanted this guy quite badly, but how do you extradite someone when there isn't a treaty? And what would happen to the election if Thaksin took up residence at the Bangkok Hilton a few days before the vote?

[sirchai]

Did the list of haven countries just shrink a little? Sounds like they wanted this guy quite badly, but how do you extradite someone when there isn't a treaty? And what would happen to the election if Thaksin took up residence at the Bangkok Hilton a few days before the vote?

"The accused was extradited from Thailand on June 7," it said.

Strange news. Must have been some good money involved to the Thai authorities................:jap:

[anterian]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

[OzMick]

Did the list of haven countries just shrink a little? Sounds like they wanted this guy quite badly, but how do you extradite someone when there isn't a treaty? And what would happen to the election if Thaksin took up residence at the Bangkok Hilton a few days before the vote?

"The accused was extradited from Thailand on June 7," it said.

Strange news. Must have been some good money involved to the Thai authorities................:jap:

Pity they couldn't have arranged a felon swap. But an extradition treaty sounds like a good diplomatic alternative - Mr T is sure to get the hint and move on.

[OzMick]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

[anterian]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

"UAE is not short of a quid".... You seem a little bit out of touch .

" The global financial crisis, tight international credit, and deflated asset prices constricted the economy in 2009 and 2010. UAE authorities tried to blunt the crisis by increasing spending and boosting liquidity in the banking sector. The crisis hit Dubai hardest, as it was heavily exposed to depressed real estate prices. Dubai lacked sufficient cash to meet its debt obligations, prompting global concern about its solvency. The UAE Central Bank and Abu Dhabi-based banks bought the largest shares. In December 2009 Dubai received an additional $10 billion loan from the emirate of Abu Dhabi. "

I would think Thaksin's billions are very popular there.

[OzMick]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

"UAE is not short of a quid".... You seem a little bit out of touch .

" The global financial crisis, tight international credit, and deflated asset prices constricted the economy in 2009 and 2010. UAE authorities tried to blunt the crisis by increasing spending and boosting liquidity in the banking sector. The crisis hit Dubai hardest, as it was heavily exposed to depressed real estate prices. Dubai lacked sufficient cash to meet its debt obligations, prompting global concern about its solvency. The UAE Central Bank and Abu Dhabi-based banks bought the largest shares. In December 2009 Dubai received an additional $10 billion loan from the emirate of Abu Dhabi. "

I would think Thaksin's billions are very popular there.

OK, they are going through a rough patch like many others, and there are many many others who dream of having things so rough. But if they need Thaksin so badly, why have they agreed to an extradition treaty?

[anterian]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

"UAE is not short of a quid".... You seem a little bit out of touch .

" The global financial crisis, tight international credit, and deflated asset prices constricted the economy in 2009 and 2010. UAE authorities tried to blunt the crisis by increasing spending and boosting liquidity in the banking sector. The crisis hit Dubai hardest, as it was heavily exposed to depressed real estate prices. Dubai lacked sufficient cash to meet its debt obligations, prompting global concern about its solvency. The UAE Central Bank and Abu Dhabi-based banks bought the largest shares. In December 2009 Dubai received an additional $10 billion loan from the emirate of Abu Dhabi. "

I would think Thaksin's billions are very popular there.

OK, they are going through a rough patch like many others, and there are many many others who dream of having things so rough. But if they need Thaksin so badly, why have they agreed to an extradition treaty?

Well firstly they have not agreed an extradition treaty, I quote, "The Thai and UAE governments are currently negotiating an extradition treaty " Negotiating is a long way from agreeing. Secondly international negotiations tend to drag on a long time and the outcome of such negotiations is never a forgone conclusion. In the meantime the goal posts may well have shifted in Thailand. Finally, Thaksin is friends with several of the ruling Princes, I'm sure he would be given adequate warning to move on to another haven. This is just another incident in the play, "we don't want Thaksin back but have to look as if we do". Thaksin in gaol would be a bigger problem than Thaksin on the loose but outside Thailand.

[stanley2550]

It looks like the Big Crooks in the Big Pond caught a little fish in the little pond...Whats a 150,000,000. Actually an exhange for Taksin woul have been a great idea. The Islam Law Rules there I believe.. This poor

Brtt is liable to lose a hand, and his tongue.

[stanley2550]

Hell the Americans would shake his hand, takem to a 6 star Hotel, feedem steak and lobster, a nice big fat baked potato with cheese and chives, a fresh salad, and some pie alamode with a cup of top of the line coffee. Then in about 1 year he would stand trial, his attorney would plead insanity or that he was abused as a child and he would get off doing community service for 6 months. Americans love the Brits.

[ableguy]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

Would not want to be in this guys shoes he faces some realyy hard time.

[Thongkorn]

Its nice to see Country's Fighting crime together, It will make Bad people think before doing the deed then fleeing the Country anywhere, Regardless of the Politics it has to be Good thing , if you cannot do the time , don't do the Crime anywhere.

[moe666]

Hell the Americans would shake his hand, takem to a 6 star Hotel, feedem steak and lobster, a nice big fat baked potato with cheese and chives, a fresh salad, and some pie alamode with a cup of top of the line coffee. Then in about 1 year he would stand trial, his attorney would plead insanity or that he was abused as a child and he would get off doing community service for 6 months. Americans love the Brits.

Do we?

[moe666]

Did the list of haven countries just shrink a little? Sounds like they wanted this guy quite badly, but how do you extradite someone when there isn't a treaty? And what would happen to the election if Thaksin took up residence at the Bangkok Hilton a few days before the vote?

Why would you need a treaty to extradite someone. Because of no treaty it took longer for the process to work its way thru the courts and the final decission to be made.Thailand could make their case to the courts in Abu Dubai and have Thaksin returned, maybe they are not making a great case or no case at all.

[newtronbom]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

"UAE is not short of a quid".... You seem a little bit out of touch .

" The global financial crisis, tight international credit, and deflated asset prices constricted the economy in 2009 and 2010. UAE authorities tried to blunt the crisis by increasing spending and boosting liquidity in the banking sector. The crisis hit Dubai hardest, as it was heavily exposed to depressed real estate prices. Dubai lacked sufficient cash to meet its debt obligations, prompting global concern about its solvency. The UAE Central Bank and Abu Dhabi-based banks bought the largest shares. In December 2009 Dubai received an additional $10 billion loan from the emirate of Abu Dhabi. "

I would think Thaksin's billions are very popular there.

I agree with what you say about The global financial crisis and the steps the UAE may have taken because of it, but not sure about Thaksins money being so important. His not (to us anyway) inconsiderable wealth, is really just a drop in that ocean of oil over there. When a country like UAE says it has problems, or is having to take steps to alter the financial situation, in reality and in perspective, the countless trillions they have spread over the world financial markets, would not be affected in the least % wise, if Thaksins money was there or not.

[kimamey]

Hell the Americans would shake his hand, takem to a 6 star Hotel, feedem steak and lobster, a nice big fat baked potato with cheese and chives, a fresh salad, and some pie alamode with a cup of top of the line coffee. Then in about 1 year he would stand trial, his attorney would plead insanity or that he was abused as a child and he would get off doing community service for 6 months. Americans love the Brits.

Do we?

Don't you?

Why wouldn't you?

[anterian]

Extradited is obviously the wrong word to use in this case, I think the Americans use the term "extracted"

Extradition is a legal process and without a treaty this process has no framework. Basically it is an attempt at ingratiation, and for obvious reasons.

But a few millions embezzled is not the same as a few billions invested. I think Thaksin is safe there.

Aren't extractions normally snatch and run jobs rather than through a court?

UAE is not short of a quid. I think that agreeing to an extradition treaty is one way of removing an embarrassment for a good neighbour who have gone the extra mile for them.

"UAE is not short of a quid".... You seem a little bit out of touch .

" The global financial crisis, tight international credit, and deflated asset prices constricted the economy in 2009 and 2010. UAE authorities tried to blunt the crisis by increasing spending and boosting liquidity in the banking sector. The crisis hit Dubai hardest, as it was heavily exposed to depressed real estate prices. Dubai lacked sufficient cash to meet its debt obligations, prompting global concern about its solvency. The UAE Central Bank and Abu Dhabi-based banks bought the largest shares. In December 2009 Dubai received an additional $10 billion loan from the emirate of Abu Dhabi. "

I would think Thaksin's billions are very popular there.

I agree with what you say about The global financial crisis and the steps the UAE may have taken because of it, but not sure about Thaksins money being so important. His not (to us anyway) inconsiderable wealth, is really just a drop in that ocean of oil over there. When a country like UAE says it has problems, or is having to take steps to alter the financial situation, in reality and in perspective, the countless trillions they have spread over the world financial markets, would not be affected in the least % wise, if Thaksins money was there or not.

With respect, Thaksin's billions is hardly a drop in the ocean if they neededan additional $10 billion loan from the emirate of Abu Dhabi. I think you may be confusing the Emirates with Saudi Arabia.

[Bagwan]

Hell the Americans would shake his hand, takem to a 6 star Hotel, feedem steak and lobster, a nice big fat baked potato with cheese and chives, a fresh salad, and some pie alamode with a cup of top of the line coffee. Then in about 1 year he would stand trial, his attorney would plead insanity or that he was abused as a child and he would get off doing community service for 6 months. Americans love the Brits.

Do we?

Don't you?

Why wouldn't you?

Two words. Ryder Cup.

[Pattel]

What I can't understand is that if Thailand can't extradite Taksin because there is no 'Extradition Treaty' how can Dubai arrange for Mr Smith to be extradited from Thailand.

[techboy]

Did the list of haven countries just shrink a little? Sounds like they wanted this guy quite badly, but how do you extradite someone when there isn't a treaty? And what would happen to the election if Thaksin took up residence at the Bangkok Hilton a few days before the vote?

"The accused was extradited from Thailand on June 7," it said.

Strange news. Must have been some good money involved to the Thai authorities................:jap:

You would know? Crack another beer ol' boy.