or could it be possibly that the last time thaksin was in power they reduced rural poverty by half in four years?

Hahaha - that was a good one. But more suited for the Jokes-forum.

see page 14

http://siteresources...full-report.pdf

i'll meet you in the jokes forum

Taliking about jokes - how about this one!!!!

Thaksin was accused of concealing shares by transferring Shin Corp shares to his drivers and maids. Thaksin tearfully told the Constitutional Court that it was an honest mistake before the Court acquitting him of the charges.

Mind you, I don't know whether it is the court or Shinawatra that is the biggest joker in this scandalous episode - what, they believed that it was an honest mistake that he transferred millions of his shares to his maids and drivers by accident!!!!! Do you really think that this tyrant cares much for the poor?? Anyone can skew the figures by stealing money from the rich and giving it to the poor, granted. But what you've got to consider is that if it wasn't for the rich entrepreneurs then that money wouldn't be there in the first place- get my point!!!!

In a similar way - has the economy and starving people (now) of Zimbabwe benefitted from the taking of white farmers land and giving it to the black (non-farmers) WRT running and managing the farms - that were BIG EMPLOYERS of black farm labourers???

Edited July 18, 201114 yr by SICHONSTEVE

I am saying even the ridiculously corrupt court that invalidated the last two elections /../

Ok.

Except that this never happened.

Do you really think that this tyrant cares much for the poor??

Anyone can skew the figures by stealing money from the rich and giving it to the poor, granted. But what you've got to consider is that if it wasn't for the rich entrepreneurs then that money wouldn't be there in the first place- get my point!!!!

No i don't think he cares that much for the poor/working class, he correctly seen that they are the majority in thailand and played up to that by introducing policies to please them and ive said this a few times around here, i'm not supporting thaksin.... i'm giving you a reason of why the poor would vote for him, how they see it...am i wrong??? did i say something incorrect???

it's so tiring that anytime anyone says anything in disagreement they must be a full supporter of thaksin and believe everything he did was right and he was a great man and he wasn't corrupt and didn't have other agenda's.....i don't believe any of those things - get my point!!!

how about everyone here just pats eachother on the back and agrees with every anti-PTP/thaksin post, how lovely

it's so tiring that anytime anyone says anything in disagreement they must be a full supporter of thaksin and believe everything he did was right and he was a great man and he wasn't corrupt and didn't have other agenda's.....i don't believe any of those things - get my point!!!

+1

it's so tiring that anytime anyone says anything in disagreement they must be a full supporter of thaksin and believe everything he did was right and he was a great man and he wasn't corrupt and didn't have other agenda's.....i don't believe any of those things - get my point!!!

+1

And yet another one here too!

it's so tiring that anytime anyone says anything in disagreement they must be a full supporter of thaksin and believe everything he did was right and he was a great man and he wasn't corrupt and didn't have other agenda's.....i don't believe any of those things - get my point!!!

+1

And yet another one here too!

What a breathe of fresh air. Maybe this will leave some small residual memory in the bigots' minds that not everything that questions them is anti-them.

it's so tiring that anytime anyone says anything in disagreement they must be a full supporter of thaksin and believe everything he did was right and he was a great man and he wasn't corrupt and didn't have other agenda's.....i don't believe any of those things - get my point!!!

+1

And yet another one here too!

What a breathe of fresh air. Maybe this will leave some small residual memory in the bigots' minds that not everything that questions them is anti-them.

Precisely.

It is possible to call a spade a spade, without being pro-spade or anti-spade.

'nurofiend' timestamp='1311005552' post='4567433'

it's so tiring that anytime anyone says anything in disagreement they must be a full supporter of thaksin and believe everything he did was right and he was a great man and he wasn't corrupt and didn't have other agenda's.....i don't believe any of those things - get my point!!!

+1

And yet another one here too!

What a breathe of fresh air. Maybe this will leave some small residual memory in the bigots' minds that not everything that questions them is anti-them.

Precisely.

It is possible to call a spade a spade, without being pro-spade or anti-spade.

But please bear in mind there have been many False Flag posters on TVF who were '100% for a cause', but trying to 'say there weren't for a time', to try and drag fence sitters along to their choice in the arguments.

'I am one of you, but maybe I don't know the other side has a point on xxxx'

(A typical type of path deviation synopsis :

• Well I don't like Thaksin, but I think maybe he did good things for Issan.

• Maybe his sister will do a good job, and he is just going to watch.

• Why can't you except Thaksin has won and stop whining! )

Eventually their true colors show through and they drop the pretense. Many eventually go ballistic in arguments and get banned. Either obsessives trolling or likely also it's 'something done by request'. Saw at least 3-4 during this last election cycle take this trajectory.

So it can be rather hard to accept fence sitters who are newly arrived as being absolutely true in their early posts. Time and consistency will tell, and only your longer term history will give proof. And having an old join date with very low post counts till recently isn't necessarily getting a pass either some groups have stock-piled old handles for future use.

So don't take it personally, because there are valid reasons for initial distrust particularly in the News / Politics sections..

I've even had a false flag attack were the newbie pretended to be a particularly HOT Thai girl with back story etc, and saying she leaned to my particular points of view... 'She' tried pumping me for personal information, but 'she' got banned, and low an behold certain 'information' I had 'divulged' suddenly was being used by an 'obviously opposingly biased male poster'.

I had given out fairly benign or just plain false test info, and guessed rightly to do so. I was attacked for some of those points that NO ONE ELSE on TVFcould have known... And of course gave them both away big time as likely being the same previously banned person with a grudge or part of an attack team.

And did make it easy to attack back and laugh as he got banned eventually.

This is real world folks not everyone is who they say they are.

Edited July 19, 201114 yr by animatic

Avudh has an interesting piece on the EC deliberations in the Nation today

But please bear in mind there have been many False Flag posters on TVF who were '100% for a cause', but trying to 'say there weren't for a time', to try and drag fence sitters along to their choice in the arguments.

'I am one of you, but maybe I don't know the other side has a point on xxxx'

(A typical type of path deviation synopsis :

• Well I don't like Thaksin, but I think maybe he did good things for Issan.

• Maybe his sister will do a good job, and he is just going to watch.

• Why can't you except Thaksin has won and stop whining! )

Eventually their true colors show through and they drop the pretense. Many eventually go ballistic in arguments and get banned. Either obsessives trolling or likely also it's 'something done by request'. Saw at least 3-4 during this last election cycle take this trajectory.

So it can be rather hard to accept fence sitters who are newly arrived as being absolutely true in their early posts. Time and consistency will tell, and only your longer term history will give proof. And having an old join date with very low post counts till recently isn't necessarily getting a pass either some groups have stock-piled old handles for future use.

So don't take it personally, because there are valid reasons for initial distrust particularly in the News / Politics sections..

I've even had a false flag attack were the newbie pretended to be a particularly HOT Thai girl with back story etc, and saying she leaned to my particular points of view... 'She' tried pumping me for personal information, but 'she' got banned, and low an behold certain 'information' I had 'divulged' suddenly was being used by an 'obviously opposingly biased male poster'.

I had given out fairly benign or just plain false test info, and guessed rightly to do so. I was attacked for some of those points that NO ONE ELSE on TVFcould have known... And of course gave them both away big time as likely being the same previously banned person with a grudge or part of an attack team.

And did make it easy to attack back and laugh as he got banned eventually.

This is real world folks not everyone is who they say they are.

What on earth are you talking about? This is an internet forum and nobody is who they say they are!

I doubt if your name is really "Animatic" !

And whats all this "false flag" nonsense? Its JUST opinions, not a military court!

Who actually cares about "new posters,old posters with few posts,false flag attacks,newly arrived fence sitters etc? Its just an internet forum and NOT the real world as you say it is!

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What on earth are you talking about? This is an internet forum and nobody is who they say they are!

I doubt if your name is really "Animatic" !

And whats all this "false flag" nonsense? Its JUST opinions, not a military court!

Who actually cares about "new posters,old posters with few posts,false flag attacks,newly arrived fence sitters etc? Its just an internet forum and NOT the real world as you say it is!

Assuming I understand you correctly, you imply we shouldn't take things too serious here. I can agree with that. Still a bit of truthfulness in posts is really appreciated

begin removed, quote of animatic's post ...

What on earth are you talking about? This is an internet forum and nobody is who they say they are!

I doubt if your name is really "Animatic" !

And whats all this "false flag" nonsense? Its JUST opinions, not a military court!

Who actually cares about "new posters,old posters with few posts,false flag attacks,newly arrived fence sitters etc? Its just an internet forum and NOT the real world as you say it is!

Assuming I understand you correctly, you imply we shouldn't take things too serious here. I can agree with that. Still a bit of truthfulness in posts is really appreciated

None so blind as those who wish to not see what's there.

There are those who take this very seriously, I've been here long enough to see the patterns, guess you have not, or don't want to.

Try and read it in context with the attached posts.... it makes perfect sense.

Edited July 19, 201114 yr by animatic

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What on earth are you talking about? This is an internet forum and nobody is who they say they are!

I doubt if your name is really "Animatic" !

And whats all this "false flag" nonsense? Its JUST opinions, not a military court!

Who actually cares about "new posters,old posters with few posts,false flag attacks,newly arrived fence sitters etc? Its just an internet forum and NOT the real world as you say it is!

Assuming I understand you correctly, you imply we shouldn't take things too serious here. I can agree with that. Still a bit of truthfulness in posts is really appreciated

None so blind as those who wish to not see what's there.

There are those who take this very seriously, I've been here long enough to see the patterns, guess you have not, or don't want to.

Try and read it in context with the attached posts.... it makes perfect sense.

Well, firstly I did read it in context with the attached posts. After all I did actually write one of them!!!!

I agree that " None so blind as those who wish to not see what's there" but fail to understand the significance in this context. What do you mean? Have you been here long enough to see it all?

Perhaps you are Thai and in that case I understand that it really means something to you?

If not I fail to understand the vehemence of some of yours opinions in this Cyberworld cos thats all it is!!!

Finally I HAVE been here long enough "to see the patterns" as you put it. 24 years residence should qualify don't you think?

There is contempt on this board for any poster who is NOT violently anti-Thaksin, with some posters even threatening to move their families out. This is pure illogical hysteria and bigotry and THAT is what the original poster pointed out and many agree with him..........