August 4, 201114 yr I need to do something about tyres on my 3yo/100 000km Isuzu Highlander. I found the standard Thai made 245/70 R16 Bridgestone Dueler H/T's awful from day one. After 3 years they're only getting harder and are never going to wear out. I believe that with bike tyres Japanese made ones tend to be softer (stickier) than the Thai products. Is this true with cars/pick-ups? I like to have a 'quick' drive through the twisties now and then when on my own and am rarely very heavily loaded (how much can the 15-20 neighbours in the back hitching a ride to BigC weigh?). I also drive 1,000kms BKK-Sukhothai-BKK most months. With this in mind if there is a 'sportier' option I would go for that. I understand that this will be a trade-off as regards wear/longetivity and maybe load rating. I'd much rather have tyres that wear out than ones that don't. I would greatly appreciate any advice. Andrew
August 4, 201114 yr I had Yokohoma on my Chevy Optra Estate, they were crap going round corners when a little damp, looked sporty but nothing special. Now got Nitto tyres, filled with Nitrogen, look good and grip well. Look on their website might have something for you http://www.nittotire.in.th/duragrappler.html at the top go into tire lineup.
August 4, 201114 yr Author I had Yokohoma on my Chevy Optra Estate, they were crap going round corners when a little damp, looked sporty but nothing special. Now got Nitto tyres, filled with Nitrogen, look good and grip well. Look on their website might have something for you http://www.nittotire...ragrappler.html at the top go into tire lineup. Thanks for the link beano. Might sound stupid, but what's the story with nitrogen? When I don't know something it seems more stupid not to ask...
August 4, 201114 yr Bridgestone came out with one more Dueller H/T model late 2008, fitted stock on Vigo/Fortuner in 17". It is more road biased, quiet, good traction, steering lighter. The ones you have are still stock on izu and Pajero Sport 2wd, I hate them, rubbish. most tyre/rim shops could have a set of 17; traded from a new car going larger, should sell for 20-25k baht
August 4, 201114 yr you may find your ride is better if you reduce the air pressure in the tyres. dropping 4lbs from the recommended inflation will not harm your tyres and will give you a more comfortable ride. worth a try before you cough up for new ones . regards T. Tommy Dee on Pattaya 103 FM ( yes 3.. I am famous for going backwards) ...is an international Radio Leg-End
August 4, 201114 yr you may find your ride is better if you reduce the air pressure in the tyres. dropping 4lbs from the recommended inflation will not harm your tyres and will give you a more comfortable ride. worth a try before you cough up for new ones . regards T. dropping 4psi, to 25psi will provide uneven wear, sides worne more, and risk overheating at speeds or load, or speeds with load. It will also make steering more heavy, increase fuelconsumption, and increased risk of flipping truck. Initial traction may feel better, but an S manouver will have terrible traction in second curve Noise and braking will remain terrible
August 4, 201114 yr Author you may find your ride is better if you reduce the air pressure in the tyres. dropping 4lbs from the recommended inflation will not harm your tyres and will give you a more comfortable ride. worth a try before you cough up for new ones . regards T. Ride and comfort not really the problem. Just that the tyres have never really stuck to the road. They don't get hot and don't get sticky. Squeal on a corner before they should. Getting worse.
August 4, 201114 yr On my 2005 Vigo I found the Dueller H/T tyres really good but they were worn out at 35,000 kms so kbb has a point, there must have been different compounds knocking about over the years, when the name stayed the same. Nitrogen !! well I going to stay of this one. :lol:
August 5, 201114 yr Author On my 2005 Vigo I found the Dueller H/T tyres really good but they were worn out at 35,000 kms so kbb has a point, there must have been different compounds knocking about over the years, when the name stayed the same. Nitrogen !! well I going to stay of this one. :lol: Seems strange that there would be such a huge compound variation on the same model tyre. Mine still have 50% tread after 100,000 kms. I wonder what the current Dueller is like. I just don't want to buy the wrong ones and have another 100,000 kms of dissatisfaction.
August 5, 201114 yr you may find your ride is better if you reduce the air pressure in the tyres. dropping 4lbs from the recommended inflation will not harm your tyres and will give you a more comfortable ride. worth a try before you cough up for new ones . regards T. dropping 4psi, to 25psi will provide uneven wear, sides worne more, and risk overheating at speeds or load, or speeds with load. It will also make steering more heavy, increase fuelconsumption, and increased risk of flipping truck. Initial traction may feel better, but an S manouver will have terrible traction in second curve Noise and braking will remain terrible dropping 4psi in this climate will not have most of the effect you describe. ! Tommy Dee on Pattaya 103 FM ( yes 3.. I am famous for going backwards) ...is an international Radio Leg-End
August 5, 201114 yr This was interesting http://www.aawen4x4.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1:4psi-rule&catid=2:current&Itemid=7
August 5, 201114 yr This was interesting http://www.aawen4x4....urrent&Itemid=7 What a Fuss, my tires deflated 1PPI by the time id read through it.
August 5, 201114 yr On my 2005 Vigo I found the Dueller H/T tyres really good but they were worn out at 35,000 kms so kbb has a point, there must have been different compounds knocking about over the years, when the name stayed the same. Nitrogen !! well I going to stay of this one. :lol: Seems strange that there would be such a huge compound variation on the same model tyre. Mine still have 50% tread after 100,000 kms. I wonder what the current Dueller is like. I just don't want to buy the wrong ones and have another 100,000 kms of dissatisfaction. I forget what MRO said were the best tyre, in his opinion, Yoyo I think or it was another Japanese tyre anyhow, you would have to look back on other threads on tyres, there are so many brands but I would go with them on his advice, if you are not happy with Bridgestone.
August 5, 201114 yr On the tyres issue I have a 2008 2WD Nissan Navarra still fitted with the original Bridgestone Dueller HT tyres - 205R16 on 6" wide wheels. All standard. On such a bug truck these skinny little tyres look ridiculous. What is the largest(i.e. widest) tyres I can put on those original wheels? Being a rare wheel stud pattern it is very difficult to find decent after market wheels I've found or I would consider new wheels as well - probably 18"
August 6, 201114 yr On the tyres issue I have a 2008 2WD Nissan Navarra still fitted with the original Bridgestone Dueller HT tyres - 205R16 on 6" wide wheels. All standard. On such a bug truck these skinny little tyres look ridiculous. What is the largest(i.e. widest) tyres I can put on those original wheels? Being a rare wheel stud pattern it is very difficult to find decent after market wheels I've found or I would consider new wheels as well - probably 18" really depends on your lanned useage. you are adding a considerable additonal diameter so need to be sure that you are not off roading or going with heavy loads or you will bottom out on the wheel arches and on tight turning. Tommy Dee on Pattaya 103 FM ( yes 3.. I am famous for going backwards) ...is an international Radio Leg-End
August 7, 201114 yr I never carry a heavy load and never go offroad - it's a 2wd as I mentioned. I did some research and found a 225/55 is the widest tyre that should be fitted to a 6" wheel. This size does not affect the OD so no problems with bottoming or fouling the guards or further distorting the speedo "accuracy."
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