News_Editor Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Teen who peed on girl during flight kicked from U.S. Ski Team 2011-08-12 23:12:35 GMT+7 (ICT) NEW YORK (BNO NEWS) -- A teen was dismissed from a U.S. Ski Team on Friday after news reports emerged he urinated on a young girl during a JetBlue flight from Oregon to New York. Robert "Sandy" Vietze, 18, was arrested by police at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport on early Wednesday morning after an overnight flight from Portland in Oregon. He allegedly stood up during the flight and urinated on an 11-year-old girl while her father - a Stage 4 cancer patient - was in the lavatory himself. News reports said Vietze was drunk when the incident happened, but it was not immediately clear if he had been given alcohol by JetBlue or if he was already drunk when he boarded the flight. The legal drinking age in the United States is 21. Doug Haney, the chief press officer for the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association (USSA), said Vietze was previously nominated to the U.S. Development Alpine Ski Team for the 2011-12 season. He has now been dismissed from the team. "Based on the information we have, Sandy Vietze is in violation of the USSA code of conduct and team agreement, and has been dismissed from the team," said USSA Executive Vice President of Athletics Luke Bodensteiner. Vietze is also facing misdemeanor charges of indecent exposure, which could result in a fine and up to one year in jail if convicted. -- © BNO News All rights reserved 2011-08-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardholder Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. So you are saying he 'accidently' pissed on the girl ? Edited August 13, 2011 by metisdead Do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Wow, this story has all the possibilities of quickly making her an (disproportionate) hated individual in the US. Drunk 18 year old urinating in the open during a flight with an airplane. On a child. Of an stage 4 cancer patient. Making 'her' an (disproportionate) hated individual... whatever that is? Nah.... there's no gay or racist angle. Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. Not intentional? Definitive thought processes needed to stand up, unzip and get the pecker out and then with one hand free, write your name in the snow... then I woke up Your Honor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saraburioz Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Accidents can happen - i threw up over the guy sitting behind me once on a Quantas flight - still don't understand how it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 He must have been out on the piste the night before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. The kid obviously has an alcohol problem Lack of experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Its a man, no idea why anyone thought it was a girl. He was 18, so underage drinking, exposing himself to an 11 year old girl and then he stood up to pee on her-- while on an airplane. Don't recall ever being so drunk I would ever think that was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The poor young girl. That had to be a traumatic experience. First, her father is dying. Second, she probably had the horrible experience of airport screening with a sick father and then to have the ultimate humiliation of this and in a public setting. As far as the young man goes, he does indeed have a rather serious alcohol problem. He needs to get some help quickly and make amends to this poor girl and her father. How on earth did he manage to board a flight in such a condition? He sounds like he was pretty seriously impaired. I shared a house with some fellow employees. One was a young man (around 25), who was a hopeless alcoholic. He got completely blitzed every night. Once, in a drunken stupor, he got up and peed on his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Stupid act, but I wonder if he could have avoided the consequences by -- 1. Finding Jesus 2. Signed up for rehab 3. Started a new charity for piss crime victims As it is now, if I were him I would be sniffing out bad boy acting roles in teenie B movies. Perhaps for the Mexican market? In more seriousness, I wouldn't assume the victim is necessarily traumatized for life over this. But the perp may be. Edited August 13, 2011 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 One night I had just the one too many ales then went to bed. The next morning my room mate wasn't too pleased with me. Apparently he was watching the tv and drifted off to sleep, I had decided to do some sleep walking, went up to him, lifted his arm, pissed in his armpit and pushed his nose. I think he was just too stunned to do anything. This guy is only 18, I hope he isn't crucified for doing something so stupid. Just put him into some counselling and make buy the girl and her family some tickets to the winter Olympics or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Actually the guy is pretty lucky so far. It looks like legal charges won't be pursued. I wouldn't have been shocked if he was charged as a sex criminal, with all that implies in the US now (basically your life is over). An old friend of mine spent two months in jail simply for pissing furtively in a dark alley. Compare to what the skier did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. So plenty of excuses for the Kid then GK,and no sympathy for the poor girl and her very sick Father. Jeez you sound like a right Hardcore any excuses Bleeding Heart Liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 It was a bad thing, but there is no way the skier would have known about the medical condition of the girl's father so that part is totally irrelevant to the severity of his offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. Amazing how many Thai women don't know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckd Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Sounds to me like he could claim the first Amendment on this one...or some of our posters seem to think. Freedom of expression and all that crap. He exposed himself to a minor child. He IS a sex offender and should be treated as such. Being a drunk is no excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizz Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. Amazing how many Thai women don't know this. Here you are Kerryk URINE is good for snake bite. Urine has also been found to be useful in treating diseases like cancer, gout, osteoporosis, impotence, obesity, asthma, bums, tuberculosis, blisters, cuts, wounds, cataract, coughs and colds, constipation, diabetes, eczema, gangrene, heart disease, hyperacidity, diseases of the stomach and intestines, pulmonary tuberculosis, psoriasis, piles and ringworm, uterus inflammation and stiffness of the vertebral column. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) Sounds to me like he could claim the first Amendment on this one...or some of our posters seem to think. Freedom of expression and all that crap. He exposed himself to a minor child. He IS a sex offender and should be treated as such. Being a drunk is no excuse. I agree in many US states he might technically be prosecuted as a sex offender under the law. However, I don't see how any rational person could see his action in the same class as an actual pedophile who actively molests children. That said, I am still kind of surprised he isn't facing more legal heat. I reckon that might have something to do with these cultural things -- he's white, he's not poor, he's a sports hero, he's young. Imagine if the guy was a 50 year old unemployed homeless black guy. Yes, seriously. Is that fair? No, seriously. Edited August 13, 2011 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koheesti Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Sounds to me like he could claim the first Amendment on this one...or some of our posters seem to think. Freedom of expression and all that crap. He exposed himself to a minor child. He IS a sex offender and should be treated as such. Being a drunk is no excuse. He should just claim it was performance art and sue the airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Lack of charges could also have something to do with the victim not wishing to have him charged or give evidence. It may be that that they consider the publicity and being kicked off the ski team enough punishment for the severity of the offence. Maybe, maybe not, just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The kid obviously has an alcohol problem. Too bad, no mention is made of helping the kid. Urine is sterile and coming from a physically healthy person does not present a health problem. It was a wrongful act, but I don't think it was intentional. Amazing how many Thai women don't know this. Here you are Kerryk URINE is good for snake bite. Urine has also been found to be useful in treating diseases like cancer, gout, osteoporosis, impotence, obesity, asthma, bums, tuberculosis, blisters, cuts, wounds, cataract, coughs and colds, constipation, diabetes, eczema, gangrene, heart disease, hyperacidity, diseases of the stomach and intestines, pulmonary tuberculosis, psoriasis, piles and ringworm, uterus inflammation and stiffness of the vertebral column. My link Wow! He should be giving her an invoice rather than an apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 A key element of a sex offense is that the behavior in some ways either is sexually stimulating or gratifying. I would assume he did not demonstrate any behavior of this nature, thus no charges. The article doesn't indicate if the guy intended to urinate on the girl or if he was urinating and accidentally urinated on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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